**KAZ**

Staff member Liv

That chick is definitely cinnamon opaline recessive pied.

Post pictures please

Looking really nice

Doesnt alter the fact they were claiming it as a rare mutation which is still fraudulent

See you then fran

Wont be quill mites then

Very satirical and witty.............the subtle odd raised eyebrow is classic hitchcock :happy-dancing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uELFbRBEvw interesting :happy-dancing:

Have you a photo of the back of the bird ? Looks so far like what Hannah has said. Need better and more pictures though :happy-dancing: Welcome

There is no differing shades of blue legrings. Post all legring info off each ring and we will try and help you work it out. I have got chicks out of 6 year old cocks too so you never know. hens you dont use after the age of four unless you want trouble.

Most people unless they have a cool or aircond birdroom wont even have nestboxes happening so their birds do not have to try and breed in the hotter season.

I agree with Matt :happy-dancing:

They are also yellowface and opaline :happy-dancing:

hi guys well shes in aviary after her first morning feed which is 630 am then she gets feed every hour so shes not dehidrated or hungry she sleeps inside in a washing barskit full of seed on floor in hope she will nibble she only did so once but never since she doesnt copy other chicks as id hoped i dont normally let my chicks in aviary just been putting oldest from all nests in their for the day in hope they show her how to eat its been a really usless event i must say lol they all enjoyed playing though so ... I bathed her today and she looks so much better i tryed to take pics but every time i took one this massive yellow arua surounded her and you cant actually see her looks like shes radioactive lol so i will try get pics tomorrow see if she stops glowing i will try not feeding her tonight her last feed was 830 pm shes due now and wanting one so i put her on her seed but she just looking at me like what the h e l l is this shes proning and chirping starting to get the narky hen aditude also to day even if i have to feed her for rest of her days shes to personality not to so... Im thinking vet tripto see if he can tell me whats up if she makes it to 8 weeks still not eatting seeds shes only 5 weeks so bit more of a chance but will cut feeds back to morning then 10 am then 4 pm then 10 pm then 630 am so on see if that makes her want to crack the seed i will keep you informed i had one like this chick that wouldnt eat either and had to crop feed. I kept reducing the amount of feeds down to just twice a day........morning and night feeds. Chick was in with the kindie cage babies. One evening I went to feed it and it had a full crop of seeds :happy-dancing: Here is my little slow starter...... and now as mine started out like yours..........I have hopes for yours to turn out well.

You are right about the wood. A lot of breeders use plywood boxes but these also are glued together with glues that arent safe. Mine are plywood but so far the birds dont chew them.

Yep she has black eyes. My male wont settle down he just flies back and fourth between perches, he has been in there for two days now. He can hear and see the aviary birds from he's cage so maybe this is the problem? Cheers Normal behaviour when taken from a large space like an aviary into a cage. He will settle down.

Excellent You gotta be happy with that. Pony bead here are as cheap as chips............... try the two dollar type shops and markets. If no luck I can get you some here and post over if you want me to shop for you.

I so totally agree here........................... There is no need for anything for budgies to sleep in....its humans putting our preferences over onto budgies. And we all know budgies just see cosy places as nests at one time or another.

Gee thanks Kaz, so you can get up close and personal and loose the bars.On my SLR The faster the camera speed and the lower the aperter is how I do it but even with my macro settings I still can't get close enough in the show cage to loose the bars. Yeah the lens is small enough to go between the bars http://www.canon.com.au/en-AU/For-You/Digi...ras/80IS-Camera

Looking better

A good camera that takes clear photos through the bars is a CANON IXUS 80 IS the one I just bought from my ex brother in law. It was used in taking photos at the National a couple of years ago and everyone thought it was great little camera.

Clearwing Matings and Expectations The clearwing factor is only dominant to ordinary yellows or whites. The whitewing and yellow-wing can be reproduced by mating with any variety or colour which is split for white or yellow, but the proportion will be small. Some of the non-clearwing birds bred from this pairing will be split for clearwing and others for white and yellow. It should be realised when mating your birds that the variety exists in two forms - purebreeding, carrying two factors (2-F) for clearwing and the other carrying one factor (1-F). It is unlikely that an individual is (2-F) unless it has come from (2-F) parents. To determine if the bird is pure breeding it should be mated to a white or yellow. If only clearwings appear it is definitely (2-F), but all the youngsters from the pairing will be (1-F) and capable of reproducing white and yellow. Recommended Pairings Yellow-wing Light Green X Yellow-wing Dark Green ............. Retains size and improves body colour of Light Green Yellow-wing Light Green/Blue X Whitewing Cobalt ................Improves size of Whitewings and retains depth of body colour Yellow-wing Dark Green X Whitewing Skyblue ................... Improves body colour of Whitewings Yellow-wing Olive Green X Whitewing Skyblue............... Produces 100% Type I Clearwings Whitewing Skyblue X Whitewing Cobalt ........................ Retains size and improves body colour of Skyblue Yellow-wing Light Green X Whitewing Mauve................. Produces 100% Type II Clearwings The Type I and II birds bred from the above pairings will prove to be of immense value to you in reproducing Whitewing Cobalts and Violets with outstanding size and always providing the parents are of good quality, the exhibition qualities will be exceptional. The following suggested matings should bring about the desired effect. Yellow-wing Dark Green/Blue (Type I) X Whitewing Cobalt Yellow-wing Dark Green/Blue (Type II) X Whitewing Skyblue An immediate improvement in size of the Whitewing Cobalts bred will be seen from these two matings. Yellow-wing Dark Green/Blue (Type I) X Whitewing Violet Providing the parents have reasonable wing colouring, some exceptional exhibition Whitewing Violets will be bred. As a general rule, pair Whitewings X Yellow-wing and Light X Dark Factor. Not only will this enable you to breed both whitewing and yellow-wing, but also to reproduce birds in all colour shades, i.e. Light, Dark and Olive Green and Skyblue, Cobalt Mauve and Violet in the Blue Series.

okay....then its a generic ring and the colour wont have anything to do with year of hatching.

Also she has the appearance of a dehydrated chick to me....one not getting enough food or rehydration. I would put her in a large plastic tub with nothing but seed all over the floor. She will learn to eat seed within 24 hrs if she is so inclined.