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Yes. not life threatening but makes them feel miserable and with your budgie already has started making the beak grow wrong so will affect ability to eat if left untreated.

Not exactly sure on the sex from that photo.........maybe male. The scalyface mites have taken hold. They are affecting the feet and the beak is already mis-shapen. The need for treatment is urgent. Dont try and get petshop meds as its gone past that stage.

Your budgie has scalyface mites. You need ivermectin from the vet. One drop in the back of its neck next to the skin.

Hi Nate and welcome :bump: Considering you live in perth as I do, the hot weather we have had lately may play a part in it. If you can post photos of your setup we may also be able to advise you. How to post pictures link in my signature

Not new news to me either BUT we often get questions about this so I posted something with good info :laughter:

Is there any more info out there more recent than this dated 1999 ? http://www.daff.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_f...046/99-090a.pdf

One of our top show breeders is down your way ...Gary Armstrong. Cinnamon grey is very common.......I guess it depends on who you ask :laughter:

How could a cat get through the bars of a budgie cage ?!

Cinnamon grey and opaline cobalt not uncommon..........cinnamon greys are very common.

Its very hard to look at your wonderful birds Mark when I am drooling all over my keyboard :laughter:

Thats it in a nutshell..................... What is the real reasons we cannot import birds from the UK anymore ? If other animals and birds can come in, why not budgies ?

He shouldnt be out while you are asleep :laughter: Make sure there is somewhere in the room for him to be................you can make a play area by putting a large twiggy branch in a pot of cement so you have a stick like xmas tree sort of thing where he can sit and play with toys you can hang on the branches. Make sure you dont use scented candles or aerosols in the room...no spraying deodorant, hairsprays etc Remember to vacuum A LOT !! as dust levels will be high. One flap of the wings and seed husks and dust goes everywhere :laughter: If you are staying up late with the light on his cage will need to be covered so he can sleep. If you have other pets, make sure door is always shut so he doesnt become a cat or dogs dinner ( it has been reported on this forum that pet budgies have become another pets dinner ) Quiet is a sign of danger to them so if you arent there play the radio or TV and dont have him out of the cage unless supervised. Try to discourage floor areas as many budgies get trodden on and sat on if under bedcovers.

Great birds Mark ! How long has it taken you to get to this level do you think ?

There are a lot of misconceptions out there thats for sure. But when you were saying whast you did as well as the rest of it I thought you knew something we didnt. :laughter:

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I know this........but your were saying and as far as I can see you are contradicting yourself as a rainbow is a blend of various mutations.

http://www.archive.org/details/AllAboutFea...-Expoperiquitos once you have this page...........click on PDF on the left and download.

Still moulting

Raspberry fruit juice cordial can kill the virulent bacteria that causes outbreaks of gastroenteritis, research shows. Experiments with pure raspberry juice and commercial cordials at Charles Sturt University in Wagga Wagga have shown that a folk remedy commonly used by livestock owners has scientific validity, Dr Heather Cavanagh said. Dr Cavanagh and colleague Dr Jenny Wilkinson from the school of biomedical sciences have found that a dash of concentrated raspberry juice kills E. Coli, salmonella, mycobacterium and staphylococci among other bugs. “We’ve looked at raspberry juice and raspberry cordial with at least 25 per cent juice and they both work very well,” Dr Cavanagh told AAP. “Raspberry-flavoured cordials do not have the same effect, and when we tried the juice on fungus it just grew better, probably due to the sugars.” Dr Cavanagh, who hails from Scotland, was startled to find that Australian cattle and pig farmers routinely use raspberry cordial to prevent gastric outbreaks in their animals, as well as recommending it for people. “Apparently farmers in the Riverina when their cows start to develop gastroenteritis, instead of calling the vet they just tip a couple of litres of raspberry cordial into the trough,” she said. “I also had a call from a pig farmer who claims the mortality in his piglets dropped from 40 per cent to zero by using cordial.” The Budgerigar Council of Victoria recommends on its website a one in 10 dilution of raspberry cordial to prevent infection in breeding stock. Dr Cavanagh, who is researching the medicinal properties of a range of herbal remedies, has not yet identified the active antimicrobial ingredient of raspberry juice. Her research shows it’s either not present or not potent in the leaves of the raspberry bush, traditionally taken as tea for a range of medical complaints, including diarrhea in children. Salmonella and other bacterial infections survive well in water, contributing to the rapid spread of gastroenteritis in communities such as schools and childcare centres, and being a major problem in developing countries. They are not always treated with antibiotics but resolve with high fluid intake. “What we’ve shown in our in-vitro research only applies to prevention, not cure,” Dr Cavanagh said. “But I have been approached today by someone who wants to do a clinical trial in India and if we do that we may be able to show that it is a treatment as well.” Dr Cavanagh said the bacteriological evidence so far suggested that a 35 per cent pure juice cordial at up to a 1:10 dilution may aid in preventing transmission of gastric bugs through contaminated water. AAP By Rada Rouse Saturday, March 24, 2001 - “BUDGIE NEWS” JANUARY/FEBRUARY. 1987. From a write up in “Australian Post”, and from other sources, we have learned that early last year, cordial makers, Anchor Foods, in South Australia, discovered an untapped market of four million new customers a year. It all started as a result of a chance discovery by a Perth based team of scientists, led by Michael Gracey, Associate Professor of Child Health at the University of Western Australia. Professor Gracey and his team had been looking for a simple, cheap and effective way of providing drinking water that was safe from bacterial contamination. Suspecting that cordial might be implicated in intestinal infections, they set out to see if they could grow the dangerous bacteria in various cordials. They were amazed to discover that exactly the opposite was true. All of the cordials they tried, but particularly Anchor and Cottees Low Calorie, made short work of Salmonella, E. Coli and even the dreaded Vibrio~Cholerae, killing the bacteria in a matter of seconds. Anchor hadn’t considered using cordial to combat diarrhoea in animals until February 1985, when a Western Australian farmer, Keith Davey, got in touch with their office in Western Australia to tell them he wanted to buy raspberry cordial in bulk to feed his piglets. He had seen the initial publicity about Professor Gracey’s findings and reasoned that cordial could work with pigs as well, because their digestive system is very similar to that of humans. Apparently gastric problems are very common in young pigs, with high mortality rates. After experimenting with various flavours, Davey asked Anchor to settle on raspberry because all the others contained fruit particles which clogged up the teats of his piglets feeding equipment. The results he claimed to obtain could not have been more impressive. The mortality rate amongst his piglets dropped from around 4% to virtually nothing and his feed bill was halved. Eventually Anchor developed a dry powder that could be added to water and this is a concentrated raspberry drink powder called “AWS 111” which has now been released on to the market. Silly as it may sound, farmer Keith Davey has been feeding his piglets raspberry cordial morning, noon and night, and pig farmers, and others too, all round Australia are following his lead. In the future this unusual application could be extended to include chickens, horses, cattle, greyhounds, etc. Here in Sydney, and I believe also in Brisbane and Melbourne, numbers of canary breeders are getting on the bandwagon this year in the belief that AWS 111 raspberry solution will help them reduce mortality in their baby canaries this breeding season, and there is every reason to believe that AWS 111 added to the drinking water will do just that. The theory advanced is that any bacteria received into the water from the parent bird’s beak, will be killed within seconds, so that the adult birds and the chicks are drinking bacteria free water at all times. Last breeding season, one of our members, the very prominent Norwich breeder, Ross Vincent, had his best year since 1981, with 80 odd youngsters and he gives full credit of his success to the use of raspberry cordial in the drinking water. He is completely sold on it and many others are now following his lead. The manufacturers say it is important to note that the use of their product is not a replacement for good management practices, especially hygiene. It is not a magic panacea, as it will not clean up a dirty operation. Brig Pitman advised that Anchor raspberry diet cordial, 2 litre bottle has natural sugar in it and is cheaper to purchase than AWS 111. It is diluted in the drinking water 1:10.

Please tell me what is a TRUE rainbow ? Let me clarify....................Squeak_crumble I am asking YOU what you meant.......as twice now you have said TRUE RAINBOW AND PROPER RAINBOW not the mutations mixed as far as I know the term rainbow was made up to describe a bird that came about by MIXING Clearwing, opaline, yellow face, in blue series. If not then what is your idea of a PROPER OR TRUE RAINBOW ??

A lot of bad information comes out of the mouths of pet store employees.

Not exactly.............pet type birds have what is often called ( by show breeders ) PINHEADS ( small heads very much like the original bush budgies ) :P The difference in feather quality and size of a show budgies makes its head look different ........thats all. SQUARE is NOT the shape show breeders are aiming for............we are trying to breed fully rounded heads on our birds...........not SQUARE This fellow is not the best example of a show budgie. These are show budgies ( thanks gary Armstrong ) notice NO SQUARE HEADS :rofl:

any chance you can take clear photos of each baby ( not the nestbox shots ) ?

Looking great Dave Wow you have a lot of budgies now..........you will have to build more or bigger aviaries

At least with colourbond fences there will be less mice. Mice love that brush fencing to breed and live in