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Yes is a double factor. Now one thing if she is paired to a normal skyblue as she is and they have chicks could this blue suffusion change the outcome of the chicks? NO......because she is DF spangle and he is blue ALL your chicks will be blue spangles.

Even if you breed dark factor to dark factor you take the chance of loosing size. Very true

It seems, by the tail that it is a mop :sad: But everything else looks like a great looking well feathered bird. A pity it is a mop, but isnt it a sign you are getting there with your birds ? :rip:

Hey, Dave, having a sky light on the roof like that means that on hot days, the direct sun will really heat up the shed. Do you have a plan for some kind of shade cover to pull over that? On the flip side, it should help keep them toasty on sunny days in the winter. Yes he has a plan for shade cover during summer. Dave and I discussed this before he ordered his new shed :sad: The covering of the skylight has already been discussed and planned out. :rip:

Did the vet say chlamydia ? Because thats the other name for psittacosis and doxy is the treatment for that.

Some more pictures and SPICE taking orders from a greywing cock :sad:

I guess she just wasnt meant to be....................... :sad:

I have seen several galah X corellas in wild flocks near our home. The are amidst a flock of corellas.

Very attractive bird

Sadly Samara was found tonight dead under a very large chick in the nestbox she has been living in for a few days. She was turning out to be an opaline green spangle. She had a full crop and was healthy prior to this happening. The chick that was sitting on top of her is extremely large. I believe she got stuck under the other chick and was smothered. Samara ( asleep )

Did the vet say coccidiosis ? The meds you have been given is the common one given for Psittacosis but is broad spectrum antibiotic ?> and works for most things. The 45 days treatment you have been given is common for psittacosis. Why dont you phone your vet and ask what it was he said the bird had ?

Did you go to an avian vet or a normal vet ? What did he say was the problem. Because antibiotics doesnt sound like the course of action for those symptoms. Could be canker or could be megabacteria. Did he mention anything like that ? Did he put any poo samples under a microscope. Did he do a crop sample ?

Yup, It is raked and cleaned out every weekend, and sweeped (until I get to the base). My base is basically rock hard clay/soil, even mice or anythig can't get through. I just realised it must look messy! Sorry, branches are always put in before cleaning, so I can take away the shredded leaves. Droppings and seed are the only things there. Only reason I asked is because my old aviary was soil floor and rats dug in and got to some of the birds.

The photos isnt all that clear. Based on the fuzzy photo she could be cinnamon or she could be greywing. Can you try for a better photo ?

No, I think I said OLD. If you are saying things just for "reaction" does that mean you are trying to stir or does it means you are looking for a good healthy debate Rubbing your babies must be a habit because of something you heard. I have never done it and havent had any rejections over thousands of chicks. as to your last point.............YES, I for one will debate this. The fact is there are far too many OLD budgie books out there, just as there are far too many OLD WIVES TALES still kicking around. I dont believe the thing about smells on hands, parents rejecting a baby that has been handled or touched, parents rejecting an egg that has been "touched" , foster parents rejecting a baby that has a different smell on it, and the theory of smells on hands. Since I have pretty much a no nonsense approach to most things I dont go to extremes with these theories and old wives tales ( and YES they mostly come from old school breeders who say things without thinking them through or even trying another method ) and I switch babies all around in nests like I did yesterday...........switched about 9 babies and all fed and cared for today. Debatable ? seems so. source http://www.birdwatchersdigest.com/site/bac...yths/myths.aspx 9. Parent birds will abandon a nestling if it has been touched by humans. This is an amazingly popular myth despite the massive amount of evidence to the contrary. Think about the thousands of studies that involve monitoring nests, weighing and measuring the young. Consider that most of those nests are successful and that the adults return as soon as the intruders are gone. Factor in the millions of baby birds that are banded and fledge successfully. Remember the tens of thousands of bluebird boxes. If birds were repelled by the scent of human beings and fled if their odor appeared on the nest, there would be wholesale abandonment of nests every year. Yet this myth persists, a "truism" handed down from generation to generation. Its origins may lie in the fact that human scent can be disruptive to birds' nesting success. It is not birds, it is mammalian predators that follow scents, and if you approach a nest too often, or too closely, you may well be leading a predator to the site. The next time you visit, the nest will be abandoned. Voila! The birds smelled you and ran. There are very good reasons for staying away from bird nests. Birds may find your intrusiveness offensive for many reasons, but one of them is not the way you smell.

Very cute Its hard to get non blurry shots of babies sometimes...they wriggle around so much. 50 shots to get two or three good ones

It is sad that laws dont have any control over this, BUT I would say that for the law to step in they would have us all as registered breeders and prone to paying a fee for this so they could keep some form of control of who breeds and doesnt etc. it still wouldnt stop anyone breeding like we all do now anyway. I know some websites pets for sale sections are imposing conditions to people advertising pets Gumtree for instance has a set of rules for anything advertised there in the pet line including birds http://info.gumtree.com.au/help/knowledgebase.php?article=91

Dont worry about that Jack. He isnt a clearwing spangle. A lot of people, when they see very few markings or light markings on spangles automatically use the clearwing phrase in association with spangles.

This is actually unnecessary. As budgies have a very poor sense of smell whether a chick smells like theirs or not makes no difference. The fosters accept any chick given to them ( as long as it isnt older and fully feathered and looking like an adult ) without the need to rub anything on them to change a "smell". It may be a habit you have developed Splat but its not a necessary one at all. I shifted around several chicks yesterday to even up some nestboxes and to get some smaller chicks in bigger sibling nests fed better. Noone of them got rubbed with anything and they were all well fed by the late afternoon feed. No rejections.

I threw out Omelettes eggs. She had eight in the end but all were infertile. The cock is a newbie and doesnt look like he got it right This pair, as it turns out have no chicks of their own. They are raising three fosters it seems. Eldest chick is from a frozen cold egg from the grey spangle cock and his skyblue hen. Second chick looks like it may have been one fostered from my dilute dom pied hen and her greywing cock ( maybe ) and the third chick in their nest is the chick that hatched from a smashed egg ( the miracle chick ) and has been fostered to them because the original parents were raising one only chick.

Sometimes the "older" generation of breeders have valuable information, they are the ones who have built the society to were it is today Also, I thought you shouldnt move chicks under 5 days old, because of touching them, the hens won't feed or sit? Also, wouldn't the hen notice if the chick isn't theirs? I already covered that point about the older generation I believe What you believe about the moving chicks thing is wrong information too. And no....the hens do not know the difference if a chick is theirs or someone elses. The smell of a chick is irrelevant as budgies have a poor sense of smell. I shift many many chicks into other nests and none are rejected. I will shift them from newborn age too and I do not wear gloves for the "smell of human touch on my hands"

In a post further back I commented on the nice surprise getting a blue out of two grey green birds .......I wasnt expecting them to be split blue

I disagree with this totally as many a hen with infertile eggs in her nest has raised another hens babies or eggs fostered. The problem sometimes with the show breeding fraternity is the OLD WIVE'S TALES that get passed along, mostly by an older generation of breeders and much of which is nonsense. This is not to say there isnt good info passed along too :hi:

Well, its a fume-y paint so you couldnt use it with birds nearby. And whether or not its safe after that depends on which surfaces you are painting with it and if birds are "beaking" the paint surfaces or not. Need more info

Try again jack with no flash used on your camera