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Maybe not....but to be found in the Avian Vet section of our forum is this http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=21279

I am sorry Squeak, I think you are trying to sit on both sides of the fence. You said and There is no other way to take this other than you are indicating quarantine is pretty much irrelevant, or a like a life style choice, or you seem to think a bird being quarantined somewhere else is quarantine when it isnt. Sometimes if the advice you are giving is greatly lacking in both knowledge and intent then its best not to say anything at all. Some people jump in and advise when they do not know enough to do so. Some people allow others to think they know more than they do. We have a responsibility here on this forum to help and educate. If that means upsetting a person or two or putting as nose or two out of joint by saying YES QUARANTINE IS IMPORTANT AND YES IT SHOULD BE DONE then we will do that instead of saying the cutesie things others say without mentioning the important stuff that may well save the life of their birds. Once you have been here awhile you will realise there is a DUTY OF CARE in the type of advise you dispense and sometimes that is more important than the amount of friends you have listed on your profile page because you avoided the hard part of good advice and chose the less controversial path of cutesie advice instead.

Good news

Thank you! Is the skin actually good for them! I didn't know that. I thought it was bad for them. The skin of all vegetables has the vitamins in it. Its even good for us. No need to peel it off and throw it in the bin. The budgies need it all

.......... Red eyes or not ????? and the This one sounds like a lightly marked recessive pied and if so would explain the chick with the spot on its head. Or she could be DF dom pied. Can you post pictures of this one.

Looks real yummy PS Why do you peel the carrots and take the skin off the cucumber ?? Its quite edible and the best vitamins are in the skin

No to the acceptance. I think its still just something some people play around with. If it werent for those people there wouldnt be any in a short space of time. Feel free to PM AmyS about hers as she is still learning and I feel sure you could help her in her understanding about them too

The point to make is.......... A budgie can live quite happily carrying its own set of internal "bugs". Another budgie can do the same. Its when they meet that ones mutation or variety of "bugs"does not go with the others that sickness and illness and deaths occur. Budgies can carry the nastiest of diseases in particular psittacosis.........a budgie can be a carrier and not show symptoms. Once it meets another budgie the other budgie can contract it and within a week to ten days have full blown symptomatic psittacosis and go down with runny eyes and poopy bottom and be dead in 24 hours of showing symptoms No breeder with the right amount of knowledge of diseases and how they work would recommend a bird does not go through a quarantine process. It protects both sides of the birds introduced. The breeder who said that was being either very naive, very stupid or a little of both.

I love your cats I have five cats. I also just want to say that you have some very unique and wonderful names for all your pets, cats and birds alike

Mag, next time you ever have a vet appointment ask them to teach you how to crop feed.........and administer drugs by crop. A valuable skill needed to be learnt and if you are paying for a vet visit you may as well get them to show you. You will need a 14 guage crop needle. Its easier to be sure a bird get meds by crop rather than the other ways.

What are the parents ?

???? Whats your question Squeak ? If you read that topic there is sick and dying birds and none of them were quarantined. I am saying there is a very real need for quarantine. You seem to be defending this position ?

Sorry to hear that One of our members AmyS has a DF melanistic hen ( Mario Capasso bred ) bought from a Brasea auction. this hen is currently breeding. Does DF melanistics work the same way as DF Spangles in that all chicks will be melanistics ?

Good to see our favourites of your budgies again Seems you have a melanistic still ?

Looking good

Dark green ? I dont think so.

Perth is a big place. I also live in Perth but I live in a suburb of Perth. I am sure your friend doesnt live in the city of Perth so which suburb ? If you say we can help be on the lookout for this lost bird. No, he doesn't live in the city of Perth. He lives somewhere around Armadale or something. Naming the suburb helps a lot when birds are lost.

Quarantine at another persons house and being introduced to budgies at this home now is no quarantine at all. read this....... http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....c=29030&hl= no quarantine and now sick and dying birds.

Pictures help a lot in describing such things

Some people choose not to do so. Some people need to be educated about the NEED for it then, dont they ?

No quarantine ?????

Perth is a big place. I also live in Perth but I live in a suburb of Perth. I am sure your friend doesnt live in the city of Perth so which suburb ? If you say we can help be on the lookout for this lost bird.

The cere appears whiteblue which is female. There wont be white on a males cere. Dom pied and spangle in the mix. Not sure about the opaline.

Or cover the small mirror with contact or glue a piece of plastic over it ( cut from an icecream container ) so the toy can still be used.

She not he. And not df dom pied, and not cinnamon.