**KAZ**

re spiders..........if you spray around your birdroom with A.I.L Avian insecticidal liquidator the next day all spiders and cockroaches will be dead...........and its safe.

Is his cere full dark bright cobalt blue ? and dark brown is considered a bit late for breeding the hen. You put them down to breed when the cere is light to medium brown. By the time the cere is dark brown it is nearly ready to peel off to reveal the white blue underneath of a hen going out of breeding condition. Post photos please ......clear cere photos using macro setting on your camera

a week isnt enough time. Also of all my budgies I have only ever seen maybe one in a hundred actually mate and I have had hundreds of babies....................let them go and be patient. Be sure you have male and female for certain and that both are in full condition

Both parents have to have the gene it is believed. Livs feather dusters...............she had three in one nest. I believe in the nest my FD Dusty came from and in retrospect her brother would have been one too if I had not euthanased him. Generally you dont re-pair the parents of feather dusters.

I fixed your you tube video link so it works and Dilmah is a yellowface or goldenface cobalt...he isnt a green budgie even though he looks greenish.

Check for rodents and snakes...........check all possible holes and crevices for entry points. Do you have mesh to ground ? check behind and sides of these cabinets ( I once found a squashed bird between wall and cabinets where it had shimmied down ) and also check the nestboxes up the top too. And have you blocked the holes where the bends on the metal roof meets the sides ?

Link to you tube doesnt work....removing your phone number or you will get hoax calls................we do it by private message here Good luck Put an ad on gumtree too http://www.gumtree.com.au

Dark green opaline spangle dominant pied female. tyhe other seems to be male recessive pied...............photos are fuzzy but the cere seems to be male on the recessive pied.

A photo of her back will show if she is or isnt a spangle dom pied

Jasper is DEFINITELY a female and appears to be a spangle dominant pied.

I have a MOP at the moment and it is in good condition and seems happy.. I really hate to kill anything but will if it seems to be suffering. Am I being unkind keeping it alive ? I don't believe so. I think it's personal choice, whether to kill or not. For some it's easy and for others it's not. My MOP is getting fresh seed and water everyday and is being kept warm. It happily sits in my hand. I clean it and monitor it every day, I will take the appropriate actions if and when I see fit to do so. So if that sounds unkind then I am guilty. well you know mine kept going for a while..............you and I and some others would be consider experienced hands to be caring for these birds. A petshop customer in most cases may not be. Good luck with yours I agree 100% Kaz. And we would never sell them to unsuspecting buyers for the sake of a few dollars. I just felt like giving this MOP a change to live a bit longer. Another day and another time I might have done away with it. Have you bred any more since Dusty. No more since Dusty

I have a MOP at the moment and it is in good condition and seems happy.. I really hate to kill anything but will if it seems to be suffering. Am I being unkind keeping it alive ? I don't believe so. I think it's personal choice, whether to kill or not. For some it's easy and for others it's not. My MOP is getting fresh seed and water everyday and is being kept warm. It happily sits in my hand. I clean it and monitor it every day, I will take the appropriate actions if and when I see fit to do so. So if that sounds unkind then I am guilty. well you know mine kept going for a while..............you and I and some others would be consider experienced hands to be caring for these birds. A petshop customer in most cases may not be. Good luck with yours

in addition to this topic, it must be said that this had gained worldwide attention here and other places AND the general concensus of opinion has been the breeder and supplier of these birds to the pet store has a lot to answer for and as these were clubrung birds the breeder AND member of the BCV should be held accountable for his actions. and that more was known about these birds when they were put up for sale than the pet store is willing to admit and that is evident by the sign put on the cage. ***additionally some attempt was made by the pet store to have certain posts removed from this topic last night. Removal was not acted upon as there was insufficient grounds.

Hi Lori and welcome

Well said GB. and to Pet mart............. you knew enough to put a sign on the cage saying Mops and inferring rarity...you must have known something. You have a duty of care here Pet mart.............. what has transpired just made you look like an opportunist and in it for a dollar no matter how hard you have tried to fix things now. For instance if someone walked in with some Princess Parrots ( green blue and pink ) and told you they were a rare version of a Ringneck parrot would you have believed them and put up a sign for rare ringnecks and a higher price to accommodate the rarity of them ? or would you have asked for proof or looked for confirmation of what you had been told before doing anything ??

**BUMP**

Hi Gary,Sharon and Steve the first thing I am going to have to advise you is AGAINST colony breeding or you are set for heartache please read this including all links in that article http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index.php?showtopic=28294&hl= you will find it better to use the aviary for a free flying fun place to be and remove pairs to breeder cages to do safer breeding. Also no budgies under the age of 12 months should be in any environment where there are nestboxes or they will be force bred before they are physically and mentally ready to do so. Hope this helps and if you follow this advice you will have the enjoyment without most of the heartache that comes with breeding budgies.

The difference in ages mean the mother has to feed a different "formula" to the older babies. Removing the Dad who is her support system may not have been the best course of action but she can manage to feed her babies alone if there is plentiful fresh food available to her. You could try leaving the baby in the nest and feeding it yourself until she takes over.

Pet mart, I find it commendable that you have taken this information on hand and made the right decisions here, and in the process you too have learnt something about these unfortunate budgies and will know for the future if any come into your shop

Well said Macka

Hi Dibba, and welcome. Dont worry about the "breeder" thing...its the title of the forum that has that connotation, but we have all kinds of budgie lovers here and its not all about breeding

Looking a little mottled arent they Neville. You really have to stop using bleach in their spray bottle mate :D Are you getting as little more sun over there than usual ? Seriously though I have no answers for you but it sure is a good excuse for a few funnies

Sure Robyn but they havent replied to me :D

Hi Karen, take a look at some reptile heated lamps and work out the best one for your budgie cage....one where he can move closer to the warmth and away from it as needed.

I sent them one last night