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Awe Shawna hugs, hugs and more hugs.....

Hugs Kaz my thoughts are with you tonight.

He is beautiful

From Bea When i make mine i get a hard boiled egg, bread crumbs, bird seed, and my birds favourite veggies. You microwaves the egg shell for about 2 mins and smash that into a fine powder. You add that to mashed hard boiled egg. Sprinkle some bread crumbs over the top just enough to spread right through the mix. Add a tablespoon or two of the budgies seed mix and then mix some finely chopped veggies in as well and stir it all together.

No budgies do not require grit because they do hull their seeds. It can cause crop impaction, some breeders or those who have aviaries will use it but not regularly. I do not give mine grit, that is old school information.

I agree Kaz they are beautiful, I really love the coloring. I can't wait to see them feather up more.

Do you have the source of that information? You can PM it to me if you feel more comfortable I have never read that and my avian vet didn't mention that when we spoke of cere changes. I would be interested in reading more about it . Thank you.

Welcome to our forums :fear

glad to hear she is on the repair and look forward to the pics :fear

Havent named them yet. I am thinking they are females, but am not sure. Soon as I am I will name them .....and KEEP them Name suggestions welcome Added my names at the top if they are females Maggie and Katie Evelyn and Carolyn Lilly and Gracey those are the twins names in Hailey's class

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I remember when we took Merlin in for a check-up the vet said now you may hear noises you never heard before out of him because he swabbed his throat etc... Hardly a peep (Laughing out loud) and the wing clip was so quick. :fear I think you will find you will be more pleased with them clipped it gives them quite the attitude adjustment per the vet. Also the first couple days give them time to adjust because the do believe they can still fly so watch out for the hard landings to the ground.

Ken Ken...and you are right he is well meaning but this in my book Mr. Ken is the LAST straw you must stay out of Kaz's aviaries. Know we love you - you are awesome but stay out please....:fear. Kaz, my heart goes out to you I can't imagine and know I am thinking about you and all those budgies.

No I meant the link is a clearflight and I agree with you :fear make sense?

Actually when your hen is egg bound you should seek immediate medical attention according too all the articles I have read. I posted that because you mentioned the oil.

Good advice Neat, I totally overlooked that. Here is a good information on why to quaratine it is so important Quarantine Program Categories for this entry Budgerigar Health And Related Quarantine is the best way in protecting your existing birds from the introduction of infectious disease. It is also to determine whether or not the new bird or birds are diseased and then to treat the problem. The quarantine cage is where all new birds are housed and ideally it should be in a completely different room where there is no airborne or physical contact. Recommend days for quarantine are at least 30 days (1 month). Avian Vets recommend 90 days (3 months) for best results as many illness can lay dorminate. It is strongly recommended you quarantine! If you don't, you could lose all your budgies! Budgerigar Quarantine Program The following list outlines the steps that should be taken to safely and effectively quarantine new arrivals to protect your existing flock from potential infection. Most steps can be applied to any species. The main difference is in the size of the quarantine cages used. Bird Quarantine Program Bird Treatments 1. External Parasites (Lice and Mites) Spray thoroughly with A.I.L. before putting in quarantine cage. 2. Internal Parasites (Worms) Treat with Wormout Gel on day one of quarantine - CROP NEEDLE DOSE: Fill a 1mL syringe with Wormout Gel and deliver. Administer 0.05mL per 100g body weight, once. Repeat every three months. - IN WATER: All aviary birds add one mL to 80mL of drinking water, for two days. Pigeons - use only half the dose by adding one mL to 160mL of drinking water. Treat birds for 2 days. Remove all other water supply. Each pump delivers 2mLs. Aviaries should be treated at least four times a year. 3. Protozoa (Canker/Coccidia): Treat Canker with Ronivet-S; mix 4g per 4L drinking water daily for 5 days. Treat Coccidia with Coccivet; mix 1.5mL per Litre drinking water for 5 days. 4. Psittacosis: Use Psittavet in water; mix 4g per 800mL of drinking water (mix fresh solution daily) daily for 45 days. 5. Megabacteria: Treat with Megabac-S; mix fresh solution daily for 10 days. 6. Nutrition: Supply extra vitamins (Soluvet), minerals (Tracemin), probiotics (Probotic) and protein for the entire quarantine period. Quarantine Conditions CAGES Size - Budgie/small parrot; Breeding cabinet (600mm x 450mm x 350mm) - Finch/canary; Budgie breeding cabinet - Medium/large parrot; 1200mm x 900mm x 900mm - Cockatoo; 900mm x 900mm x 900mm. Position - Inside conditions; separate air space - Outside conditions; At least 5 meters from other birds. Preparation - Cleaned and disinfected with Avi Safe - Treated for insects with Avian Insect Liquidator (A.I.L.) - Paper on bottom of cage. Hygiene: Clean cages and feed birds in quarantine AFTER normal aviary maintenance Wash hands with Avi Safe Scrub after attending to quarantine birds Be careful not to carry droppings, feathers or other waste back into existing aviary Wash and disinfect food and water containers with Avi Safe daily. Observation During Quarantine What Should you look for? The purpose of quarantine is to detect or eliminate potential problems before they can enter your aviaries. You must observe all birds in quarantine for any signs of disease. Common signs are; • Prolonged inactivity • Eye or nasal discharge • Weight loss • Soiled vent or diarrhoea (cages lined with paper make observation of droppings easier) • Wheezing or gasping. If any of these signs occur, keep the infected birds separate from your current stock. Contact Vetafarm veterinarians or visit www.aussievet.com for an online consultation. VETAFARM Office Address: 3 Bye Street Wagga Wagga NSW, 2650 AUSTRALIA Postal Address: PO BOX 5244 Wagga Wagga NSW 2650 AUSTRALIA Tel: (ISD + 61) ( 2) 69 256222 (Six lines) Fax: (02) 69 256333 Email: vetafarm@vetafarm.com.au We always advise before any home treatment to make an appointment with your Avian Vet. Last update: 2007-04-21 15:01 Author: Article contributed by Daz

The usual treatment for being eggbound is some olive oil or vegetable oil or some other non toxic oil being put on the egg and on the edges of the vent area that are pressing against the egg holding it there. The oil works it's way in, loosens the vent area and the egg can be expelled.

bumping this very important post back to the top since the FAQ pinning has brought it down to page 2 and this is so important to keep Lucas in our thoughts and prayers

We hope our system will be most helpful for people new to the world of budgies. In here we have listed common questions concerning general budgie information, behaviour, breeding, showing your budgies, health, nutrition and cages. The "Budgie FAQs" link is the located on the top right hand side of your screen. When you click on the Budgie FAQs link it will automatically open a new pop-up page. You can also click here to go directly to the Budgie FAQS: http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/faqs/ If you have any useful FAQ's, please submit them via the "Add Content " link at the very top. Please Note: this section of the forum is not a question and answer discussion. If you do have a question please feel free to visit our forums and become a registered member of our community. There you will be able to post freely and become involved.

After fixing them up I know what is there now (Laughing out loud) I didn't realize we had so much great info at our fingertips

Oh Shawna my heartaches for you and my eyes fill with tears. My kids are the same age as yours and I could not even know what it feels like ot be in your shoes but I know I would be scared and sick. Our thoughts and prayers are extended to you and please keep us updated on Lucas.

I don't do % myself but I can tell you different out comes of the chicks. All the babies will be blue since this is a recessive gene. 50% spangle & 50% normal babies All the babies will have a yellowface but if you get a white faced baby it would be considered a double factor yellow face The male budgies will be split to cinnamon but you won't have any visual cinnamons unless the male is split for this gene and then all the babies cinnamons will be hens. You will have 100% opaline babies (male and females) Then there is always surprises in the nest from any sex-linked genes that the male could be split for that you don't know about such as ino etc..

It is a personal decision and reading everyone's thoughts certainly helps with the decision making process for sure. The wings to grow back and after they are tamed down you can certainly keep them flighted. Some birds need to stay clipped and some don't. As I was walking my dog a couple days ago I was thinking how similar it is to wing clipping. Just because my dog loves to run around and play doesn't mean I should keep him off his leash because "that is his nature" it is not safe (an of course against the law). Many owners clips for safety reason others for taming and some don't clip. Good luck in your decision.

Do you have pics of when his cere was blue and now brown? If for sure he was a he with a deep blue cere then this is a sign of illness in a male bird and your bird should be seen by an avian vet for complete check-up and diagnosis.

I personally would take him to my avian vet if he was my bird and had the type of a personality change. I don't think anyone here can determine if your bird is sick or not but by your description he does sound like he could be sick. How old is he?