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I remember Kaz do you have a picture of the back of the bird and front enlarged but within 450/450 or provide a link. The mottle affects the markings on the back and that would help figure it out :sad:.

I hope this helps this was an article in our FAQ section that talks about handfeeding. Handrearing Budgies Categories for this entry Budgerigar Breeding Feeding Chicks from newly hatched. The first feed of the day for three days should be a quality yoghurt with a high live organism count. Next feed a mixture of the suggested amounts of Hand rearing food and pre-boiled water heated to about 50deg C. allow the prepared mixture to stand for 2 minutes to absorb all the water. Remix and if too thick reheat and add a little water to make the desired constancy. Bring the prepared food to 35deg C and feed with a spoon or syringe fill the crop full, taking care not to introduce food to the windpipe. Feed prepared Hand rearing food 4 to 6 times daily when the chicks are very young reducing to 3 to 4 feeds per day as the chick gets older. Feed small amounts frequently and allow the crop to empty completely at least once each day. Thoroughly clean utensils before each food preparation. Food must be prepared fresh for each meal. Discard all uneaten food. Growth of Chicks. Weigh chicks at the same time each day. Daily weight gain will fluctuate but on average healthy chicks should gain from 10% to 20% of their body weight each day. Weight loss could indicate the onset of disease but often means the chick is not getting enough food. Healthy chicks that do not gain weight may need more solids in the mix, more food at each feed or more feed per day. Weaning chicks. Provide adult type food to chicks once they are fully feathered or begin to resist being hand fed. To wean onto Pellets or crumbles, reduce the number of feeds and offer some moistened pellets in a dish. Once the chick starts eating the moist pellets, stop hand feeding and offer only dry pellets. Chicks will naturally lose some weight during weaning*i.e. Budgies should also learn how to crack and eat seed. Stat with a soft seed, such as millet and when they have mastered that start to introduce ordinary budgerigar mixes. # Probotics. Some parrot hand rearing products either include Probotics in their formula or recommend the use of a probotic product. Probotics are live bacteria feed supplements that may have a beneficial effect on a birds intestinal microbial populations. Most probotics contain several strains of bacteria, none of which has been demonstrated to be normal intestinal inhabitants of parrots. Commercial probotic suppliments are expensive to use and have short expiry dates. A quality yoghurt that contains live Acidophillus and Biffidus bacteria produces a similar result and is considerably cheaper to use. This information has come from Passwell Hand Rearing Product. The mix for growing chicks differs from product to product. All ways read the recommendations on the packet and use accordingly. # I personally use a Probotic with my birds and will continue to do so. Last update: 2007-04-17 16:49 Author: Contributed by Daz

After you are finished dosing him reward him with his favorite snack for many budgies that is millet. The key is after you are done finish on a positive note and visit him frequently to have more good moments with you then 1 bad one during the day. Hope he is feeling better soon. Congrats on the baby. Welcome to our forums

We learned from the BEST :sad:

Yep that is what I meant is that he can have lutino but only inos if he has the blue gene to give too :sad:

Boys have 2 since they have 2 xx Girls have 1 snce they only have 1 x and the y carries no mutation information Nerwen LOVE it!

Nerwen I believe I was all confused on which post I was posting on anymore :sad: I think that post was DEFINTELY for the other post where Sebby was invovled. I edit my response and run I am confused now I think

If that isn't the sweetest picture yet (Laughing out loud)

there is no sex linked genes on y only x they would go on other chromoses that are not part of making the the sex of the bird such as xy

awesome Daz and that promotes their natural foraging instinct, thanks for the response. I would love to be able to see his aviary in person, it looks like a fresh of breath air

No budgies should have a variety that is best for them. All pellet diets are very high in protein and have been said to cause I believe kidney issues. Here is a good article from our FAQ section and you can visit this section under nutrition for more ideas. Food and NutritionWhat should my budgie eat? It is very important to remember that a budgie on an all-seed diet is not getting the nutrition he/she needs in order to live a long, healthy life. Feeding your budgie a large variety of healthy foods can increase its life span and reduce the risks of common health issues such as lipomas (fatty tumors). No seed mix or pellet is a "complete diet" (despite what many will say on the package) so it's vital that you give your bird a good, varied diet. Ideal Diet ? Your budgie's diet should consist of roughly 30% pellets, 30% seeds, and 30% fresh foods like healthy fruits and vegetables. Treats should be given sparingly and make up only about 10% of what your budgie eats. Make sure that the seed mix you buy doesn't contain many sunflower or safflower seeds as these are especially fattening. Pellets should not contain artificial colors/dyes. Wash fruits and vegetables thoroughly before feeding them to your bird as pesticides are harmful to them. Buying organic is ideal. Other Foods - Along with the foods mentioned above, there are cooked foods that you can also offer your budgie such as Beak Appetitand Crazy Corn. Organic wheatgrass is another very healthy food you can offer but should only be given about once a week. Water: Your budgie's water should be changed every day (as often as needed each day) to prevent the growth of harmful bacteria. Cuttlefish Bone: Helps keep your budgie's beak in good condition and they also provide your budgie with calcium. Never allow your budgie to have alcohol, avocados, apple seeds, or chocolate as these are toxic to budgies. Birds have trouble digesting dairy products so steer clear of these as well. Read: Unsafe Foods For recipes contributed by our forum members click here AND Visit BBC Food and Nutrition Forum Last update: 2007-04-12 19:30 Author: eterri

Hope all is well Shawna BIG HUGS to Lucas

It is so clean and big, very airy . Can I ask a question and I don't say this offensively why doesn't he use different size perches vs dowel perches?

I would say she is a fallow but fallow being recessive to normal all your birds would be normals unless the dad is carrying the fallow gene. This will stand: Then there is of course anything they at they split for that can come up so if both are carrying the recessive pied gene you could have recessive pieds (this is an example). Also you never know what the male could be split for say for example opaline and you could have a an opaline which would be a female. Cinnamon is another one that the dad could be carrying and give to his hens. Any sex-linked gene that the dad is split for if it shows up those babies will be hens. all the boys will be split to fallow but will not be visual To get another one like her the male will need to be split to fallow and blue . Kaz...GREAT EYE!

a cinnamon will have brown throat spots sometimes in the sun Merlin's markings will look brownish but they are black

Excellent points Cheeta there are so many variables to genetics and we have a great team here that when 1 doesn't think of it another does. High 5

it is 3pm here (Laughing out loud) so about time to wake up soon....

http://www.birdhobbyist.com/parrotcolour/terry/fallow01.html I found this article that was linked from those pics anywhoo.... I am getting too deep

Not being difficult okay so I am (Laughing out loud)...do you have any good articles on the different types because the only ones I find explain them with brown spots That last ones looks like brown spots? Oh I know....love these mysteries huh

are fallows grey though? I thought they had cinnamon markings? http://www3.sympatico.ca/davehansen/fallow.html Fallow Skyblue: Mask: white, ornamented by six evenly spaced large round brown throat spots, the outer two being partially covered at base by cheek patches. Cheek patches: violet. General body colour: back, rump, breast, flanks and underparts, pale Skyblue. Markings: on cheeks, back of head, neck and wings, medium brown on a white ground. Eyes: red or plum. Tail: long feathers, bluish grey

Kaz I see the plum eyes just in the regular photo that is interesting and to me she looked grey too. I am curious to hear the answer. If red, can you assume fallow?

the pied is a recessive pied which means that you can put down in your breeding records that both of these birds are carrying the recessive pied gene. Also you can add that both your birds are split for blue. So this baby received 1 blue gene from each parent and 1 recessive pied gene from each parent which created a Blue Recessive Pied. If you breed this pair again you have a 25% chance. Pretty in my signature is a recessived pied skyblue

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look forward to seeing them