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This is BG (Big Grey)

 

I have had him for about 2 years - he is an old man with a ring that says "94"!!!!!

I think he is really handsome in his old age :)

 

I was just wondering if someone could tell me his type please?

 

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Thanks,

 

Liv

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Spangle grey cock.

 

Very Very Nice too. Hate to tell you but he's only 3 1/2 years old. The ring should be a 2004 ring not 1994.

It will be blue but if it is a 94 he is very very very great condition for a 14 year old bird :)

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3 years old!!! thats really exciting! But why is he not interested in ANY of my hens - I thought he was past all that "fooling around" hehehe

 

I just caught him and took another look Its diffinantly 94 BSSA :) and an orange band

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Daz is right he is a Spangle Grey cock & like he said very nice too…I think you must be right about his age, as the most recent time we had a Gold coloured ring was 2006. So I guess he is fact a 1994 birds as my colour series doesn’t go back that far. If that is so he is really an amazing bird, I have one that has a Green ring meaning he’s 6 or 7 years old & he don’t look that good. Pity he doesn’t like the girls as breeding some chicks from him would be really worth it.

http://home.gil.com.au/~dwellsadsl/prbsinc...ing_colours.gif

 

Ring Colours in Australia.

 

Australian Breeders rings under the ANBC arte always Club, breeder, year, bird no. .

 

My Rings are club PR Breeder 1W year -8 bird no. 016

 

His ring could be a private ring not associated to a Club.

You might fine 94 is the bird no.

 

BSSA is not the Budgerigar Society of South Australia.

 

The Governing body in SA is the BCSA http://www.bcsa.com.au/

 

You could try them to see if they know the breeder or help with the bird. It is a very good example of a Spangle.

 

 

 

+++ I've just had a good look at that ring. It looks like a 2006 ring. Can you give it a good clean and see if you've missed some lettering? +++

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My eyes must be going on me...the ring looks red to me :sad:

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I will catch him again and check tomorrow. I will take a pen and paper and write it down exactly. might see if i can get some pictures of it too :P

You have me really excited about him and i am REALLY hoping you are right about his age. :hap:

 

If he is of breeding condition, how do i get him interested in one of my hens??? Or dose he think he is too handsome for one of my "pet-type" females :sad: - would he prefer a show type???

Also, he is obviously a show type, but would he do well in a show?

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he might do okay at novice level. His stance is excellent, mask could be deeper and the wing marking clearer. A few weeks in a holding cage would put some weight on.

 

I would pair to a blue normal, opaline or spangle hen. The hen would have to have good clean wing definition good mask and good shoulders. Very stocky.

 

When he is breed condition he will be interested in the hens. Breeding is coming to an end at the moment. So you might get some clear eggs from him. But you can try him.

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Thanks Daz,

 

I you have been so helpful and i have enjoyed looking at the links you have provided.

I will put the band details on here tomorrow when i check and hopefully they will answer all my questions. :sad:

My eyes must be going on me...the ring looks red to me :sad:

 

Kaz you know what my eyes are like.. I ended up calling it up in IE and went 400% it looks Orange / gold to me. But i could be wrong :P

 

Let us know liv. We are all curious. :hap:

as everyone mentioned he is gorgeous, I look forward to the outcome and see how old he is :D

he is a beautiful bird, i bought one the same type last month but he is only 4 months old and smaller than yours. it would be nice if mine turned out as nice as yours looks.

My eyes must be going on me...the ring looks red to me :D

 

Too many hours looking at monitors Kaz...(Laughing out loud) :(Laughing out loud):

 

But now that you mention it, it does have a reddish look about it.

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The band says - with no errors - "BSSA 94 2320"

 

I dont think there is anything wrong with your eyes. Its a real orangey goldy colour.

 

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Here is is again next to my gold ring.

 

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And another pick of him for good measure hehe

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It certainly looks like a 94 ring Liv, of course people can always use an old ring again on a young bird, so it could be that. If he was the original bird & is 14 he certainly looks good, it would be interesting to try & trace where he came from & if his age is true…if it is & you could get him to breed I for one would be interested in one of his young ones, as breeding birds that could live to a ripe old age & still look healthy would be a great thing.

 

Really good close up pix Liv...

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I really hope its an old ring on a yonger bird :D

How exactly do i findout about his history????

 

If he is 14 do you think he would breed?

I have about 5 (pet type) hens that he could have any time, and there are nest boxes in the avairy for his use. He just seems to be happy just sitting quietly, watching the world go by. (like a 90year old man hehe).

 

Should i give him some incoragement by puting him in a breeding cage with a (show type) hen????

What you describe sounds like some of the old birds that I have been given, as the breeders thought there was no chance of getting young & so far they have been right. Some of my older birds are even interested in hens, but they are only 6 or 7 years old. But others like you say just sit around eating food. If he really is 14 I guess the chances are pretty slim, although he certainly looks good. Trying him in a cabinet with a good hen might be worth it.

 

Re finding out about him, first we would have to find out what the BSSA stands for.

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BSSA is not the Budgerigar Society of South Australia.

 

So i don't know what else BSSA can stand for...???

BSSA

BUDGERIGAR SOCIETY SOUTH AUSTRALIA INC. MEETINGS HELD 3RD MONDAY OF EACH MONTH MALVERN UNITED CHURCH HALL MARLBOROUGH STREET MALVERN S.A.

phone: 82581540

contact: MIKE RAFFERTY

email: bssainc@yahoo.com.au

 

ADELAIDE

SOUTH AUSTRALIA

AUSTRALIA

5108

 

 

 

Knowing how a legring deteriorates over a year ot two to the point where it cannot be read....I would say you have a young bird with an old unused legring been put on him. If the legring was that old and had been on the bird all this time, it would not look that fresh and easy to read. Some breeder has put any spare legring he had kicking around on this bird just to ID him or to show or sell the bird. No way would he be the age the legring is telling you he is.

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I did a Google search for BSSA one of the first things I came up with that could be connected was the Biological Society of South Australia. It looks like they are based at the University…looks like they do field work on wild life…I just had the thought that maybe it’s not even a Budgie ring, but maybe some wild bird was rung with it & someone found it & used it on a Budgie…maybe a long shot, but could be possible. Then looked further & found a more possible site the Budgerigar society of south Australia… bssainc@yahoo.com.au try that.

BSSABUDGERIGAR SOCIETY SOUTH AUSTRALIA INC. MEETINGS HELD 3RD MONDAY OF EACH MONTH MALVERN UNITED CHURCH HALL MARLBOROUGH STREET MALVERN S.A.phone: 82581540contact: MIKE RAFFERTYemail: bssainc@yahoo.com.au ADELAIDE SOUTH AUSTRALIA AUSTRALIA 5108Knowing how a legring deteriorates over a year ot two to the point where it cannot be read....I would say you have a young bird with an old unused legring been put on him. If the legring was that old and had been on the bird all this time, it would not look that fresh and easy to read. Some breeder has put any spare legring he had kicking around on this bird just to ID him or to show or sell the bird. No way would he be the age the legring is telling you he is.
That thought crossed my mind Kaz, about how good the ring looked.

I think your bird is more than likely a 3 yr old or so and you should be able to breed with it. I think someone has used old unused legrings on this birds and maybe others in the clutch. Use the link I gave you for BSSA and see if they have any records.

Cheers Kaz

http://home.gil.com.au/~dwellsadsl/prbsinc...ing_colours.gif

 

Ring Colours in Australia.

 

Australian Breeders rings under the ANBC arte always Club, breeder, year, bird no. .

 

My Rings are club PR Breeder 1W year -8 bird no. 016

 

His ring could be a private ring not associated to a Club.

You might fine 94 is the bird no.

 

BSSA is not the Budgerigar Society of South Australia.

 

The Governing body in SA is the BCSA http://www.bcsa.com.au/

 

You could try them to see if they know the breeder or help with the bird. It is a very good example of a Spangle.

 

 

 

+++ I've just had a good look at that ring. It looks like a 2006 ring. Can you give it a good clean and see if you've missed some lettering? +++

 

I'm pretty sure that BSSA was the old S/A.

I went looking through my old pedigree cards and found a hen BSSA 9875 03 This was a G/G opaline from Kakoscke. She was breed from Finey (UK) Imports. I bought this bird at a Auction in June 1994 and paid $110. Not bad compared to today's prices.

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The ring is in very good condition. as good condition as he :hap:

I have sent 2 emails off with pictures. One to the United Bird Societies of SA

and another to the BUDGERIGAR SOCIETY SOUTH AUSTRALIA

 

They might be able to help. I will keep you posted.

 

i hope that you are right in the fact that he is younger bird with an old band - which would be GREAT news!!!!

 

I have a 10is year old hen who is looking great too.... would this incorrect banding happen often??? I will catch her and take a look at her band too now.

Using wrong coded bands would happen with a hobby breeder but I doubt very much would happen with a show breeder.

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I bought this hen for BG a about 6 months ago (before i know that ages were printed on leg bands)She is not as handsome as he, but i think she is still nice (and she didnt bite me! :) )yellow1.jpgyellow2.jpgyellowband.jpgThis red band has "GP 99 198"Her toes dont have mites.... she has little tiny fethers there.... weird :hap: So would she be 9 years old????

I'm pretty sure that BSSA was the old S/A.I went looking through my old pedigree cards and found a hen BSSA 9875 03 This was a G/G opaline from Kakoscke. She was breed from Finey (UK) Imports. I bought this bird at a Auction in June 1994 and paid $110. Not bad compared to today's prices.
that is very interesting... but what does it mean? :) My bird could be from the UK???? he could be valuable???? or has he just got a designer ring hehe

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