Posted October 23, 200717 yr At the request of a member, we need a section for clearwings. Please post your clearwing pictures here.
July 14, 200915 yr I am looking for a picture of a grey clearwing and a greygreen clearwing. Anyone have any like that? Nubbly5, you quite a few. Any pics so i can see?
January 24, 201015 yr These are some of the clearwings I bought off Nubbly and had sent over from Perth. Some time after I decided not to travel down this long road and decided not to breed clearwings. I sold them to Renee, who lives in Perth, so they flew back to Perth. Here are some pics. The one that looks like she is moulting was actually plucked as a youngster. Shame as she has the clearest wings and is a bit bigger than her peers, or at least she was -
January 24, 201015 yr Spot the ring in! A light green cinnamon/bes. Easier to spot the ring in in this picture. A bes hen top right. Bottom left is as close as I've got to a grey I'm afraid Dave - a mauve clearwing. Top left is a normal light green/clearwing rest all clearwings.
January 24, 201015 yr Looks like you should be called clearwing instead of me. Some lovely variety clearwings there. Isn't it interesting when you add the dark factor the wing markings tend to be darker also. At the moment all my clearwings are blue series but I must admit a good green with contrasting yellow wing is a sight to behold, I'll have a play arround tomorrow weather permitting and see if I can post some also Cheers Clearwing
January 25, 201015 yr Here are some 'happy snaps' of some of the Clearwings I have bred this past year. Unbeknownst to me, my camera decided to co-operate so they are in focus! The larger hens (2 red rungers, a sky and cobalt) are from a pairing I did quite early on in my breeding season from a Sky Clearwing (from Nubbly) and Normal Cobalt split Dilute (Jeff Lloyd). As a result their wing markings are darker but so too is their body color, quite vibrant in fact. Cobalt (fuzziness makes her wing markings look even darker ) Sky (sorry flash went off) (between Light green clearwing and opaline pied) Then are the 2 Clearwings or more likely Dilutes (blue rungers) from a Dilute (I bred) x Sky Clearwing or Dilute (Gearing), a Sky and Grey. (either side of rec pied hen) The rest are all (blue rungers) from Nubbly x Gearing pairings. (a couple of Green boys) (Cobalt Violet hen next to DF Yellow) (some more Green and Blue series) (more Green series and one or two Cobalts on the ground, yes - if you look closely you can see which ones ) Edited January 25, 201015 yr by renee
January 25, 201015 yr Hi Renee, nice, you have some very good clearwings with good contrast between wing and body colour, keep up the good work. Clearwing
January 25, 201015 yr Hi Renee, nice, you have some very good clearwings with good contrast between wing and body colour, keep up the good work. Clearwing Thank you Clearwing! I was lucky to start off with very good stock, the trick now is not to mess it all up! ... and hopefully improve over time.
January 25, 201015 yr Hi Renee, nice, you have some very good clearwings with good contrast between wing and body colour, keep up the good work. Clearwing Thank you Clearwing! I was lucky to start off with very good stock, the trick now is not to mess it all up! ... and hopefully improve over time. I believe you are on the right track using dilute, I mentioned in another thread thats how I bred my best clearwings ever, a word or warning, check length of secondaries very carefully. Many breeders fail to pick up long secondaries on a single coloured wing, but the judges will not. Clearwing
January 25, 201015 yr I believe you are on the right track using dilute, I mentioned in another thread thats how I bred my best clearwings ever, a word or warning, check length of secondaries very carefully. Many breeders fail to pick up long secondaries on a single coloured wing, but the judges will not. Clearwing I am afraid I am not experienced enough to know exactly what you mean, are you referring to the 2 dilutes which do have long flights?
January 25, 201015 yr Not referring to any of your birds, just giving you a heads up, as it has been my experience that many people start with clearwings and in an effort to increase size and head they mate them to some large rough birds. The result of which is the clearwings end up with long secondaries, the breeders don't notice untill the judge points it out. Clearwings are a beautiful, frustrating,rewarding,maddening variety to breed, but I love them hence my name. Although I'm better known for Normanls, Opalines and Cinnamons. Clearwing
January 25, 201015 yr Not referring to any of your birds, just giving you a heads up, as it has been my experience that many people start with clearwings and in an effort to increase size and head they mate them to some large rough birds. The result of which is the clearwings end up with long secondaries, the breeders don't notice untill the judge points it out. Clearwings are a beautiful, frustrating,rewarding,maddening variety to breed, but I love them hence my name. Although I'm better known for Normanls, Opalines and Cinnamons. Clearwing Thank you for the advice!
January 25, 201015 yr Author Hi these birds are Clearwings birds not mine. I don't have any clearwings yet Nice size clearwings CW
January 25, 201015 yr Not referring to any of your birds, just giving you a heads up, as it has been my experience that many people start with clearwings and in an effort to increase size and head they mate them to some large rough birds. The result of which is the clearwings end up with long secondaries, the breeders don't notice untill the judge points it out. Clearwings are a beautiful, frustrating,rewarding,maddening variety to breed, but I love them hence my name. Although I'm better known for Normanls, Opalines and Cinnamons. Clearwing Saw the darkwing DVD that Don Burke and Mario put out to ANBC and in it he commented that he had "cracked" the long flighted gene and not to be scared to use it when improving stock. Can't say I was overly convinced though but to test out his theory I will be using a couple heavy flighted birds this year instead of culling them out of my stud. I think I have a copy of the article he wrote on it too so I might post it up with permission.
January 25, 201015 yr Saw the darkwing DVD that Don Burke and Mario put out to ANBC and in it he commented that he had "cracked" the long flighted gene and not to be scared to use it when improving stock. Can't say I was overly convinced though but to test out his theory I will be using a couple heavy flighted birds this year instead of culling them out of my stud. I think I have a copy of the article he wrote on it too so I might post it up with permission. Yes PLEASE!
January 25, 201015 yr Not referring to any of your birds, just giving you a heads up, as it has been my experience that many people start with clearwings and in an effort to increase size and head they mate them to some large rough birds. The result of which is the clearwings end up with long secondaries, the breeders don't notice untill the judge points it out. Clearwings are a beautiful, frustrating,rewarding,maddening variety to breed, but I love them hence my name. Although I'm better known for Normanls, Opalines and Cinnamons. Clearwing Saw the darkwing DVD that Don Burke and Mario put out to ANBC and in it he commented that he had "cracked" the long flighted gene and not to be scared to use it when improving stock. Can't say I was overly convinced though but to test out his theory I will be using a couple heavy flighted birds this year instead of culling them out of my stud. I think I have a copy of the article he wrote on it too so I might post it up with permission. Interesting, when the longflight first appaered in Australia, we were told by "our" so called experts to cull them out, never to breed with them. When they appeared in England however, they did breed with them and produced what we call the Exhibition Budgerigar of today. But the way I look at it is those lovely English breeders have already done the work for me, there are plenty of large, big headed, short winged birds I can use, so I don't need the longflights. Clearwing
January 26, 201015 yr Yeah clearwing, I'm not totally convinced that the heavy secondaries and the true long flights are the same thing. When I very first started I bought a longflighted bird from one of the breeders here in WA. He said it was the only one he had seen for a long time and it's the only one I've seen since - I soooooooo wish I had thought to take a few snaps of it as it was completely different to the sloppy secondaries that often show up in clearwings (and by the looks of it darkwings) when you try and improve them. This fellow had very definite long flights - primaries and secondaries - and also a longer tail. It's wings were still neat but the flights were completely out of proportion. It also had better feather that the rest of my flock too whereas these sloppy flighted clearwings don't tend to be much of an improvement in the overall feathering, just sloppy big secondaries. Still Don Burke in the DVD says he has "cracked" the long flighted birds genetically and the birds he is talking about in the dvd are quite obviously the same sloppy secondaries that I think you are talking about in the clearwings.
January 26, 201015 yr Yeah clearwing, I'm not totally convinced that the heavy secondaries and the true long flights are the same thing. When I very first started I bought a longflighted bird from one of the breeders here in WA. He said it was the only one he had seen for a long time and it's the only one I've seen since - I soooooooo wish I had thought to take a few snaps of it as it was completely different to the sloppy secondaries that often show up in clearwings (and by the looks of it darkwings) when you try and improve them. This fellow had very definite long flights - primaries and secondaries - and also a longer tail. It's wings were still neat but the flights were completely out of proportion. It also had better feather that the rest of my flock too whereas these sloppy flighted clearwings don't tend to be much of an improvement in the overall feathering, just sloppy big secondaries. Still Don Burke in the DVD says he has "cracked" the long flighted birds genetically and the birds he is talking about in the dvd are quite obviously the same sloppy secondaries that I think you are talking about in the clearwings. How do you breed your clearwings Nubbly5? As I have said my preferred outcross is Dilute failing that a good Normal or Opaline. In the photos Splat posted for me you'll see a clearwing cobalt cock sitting next to a dilute. That dilute will be mated to the clearwings Violet sister. Cheer Clearwing
January 26, 201015 yr do you put opaline with your clearwings clearwing thank's shannon Edited January 26, 201015 yr by shannon bird breeder
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