i have a young hen just out the nest who i really like and i am wondering if her markings are good considering she is an Opaline spangle. to me her markings are really clear and defined for both varieties - most opaline spangles kind of look a mess to me.....

 

Would love your opinions and views... my future goal is to improve the spangle markings in my show birds, without compromising on size (tough job with these 2 little girls, i know hehe)

 

 

 

and this is her younger spangle sister

 

 

They look really nice and clear to me... I'm no expert though

Liv, for a Spangle opaline, she has very good wing markings. Same as her sister. This is the right direction to go when breding spangles. Try pair these bird , when old enough to a spangle, or normal that has been bred from a spangle, with the best wing markings you have. I would be interested in 6 to 8 months how these two mature.

Thanks Daz

 

Their father has amazingly dark markings. i will get a photo. Stephen Elliott mentioned he may even have anchor markings.

He is not show quality, i bought him for his markings as they are the best i have seen yet.

What a beauty, I know nothing but just looking at her and not reading any remarks, I though as long as she retains her marking through her molts yes she is a keeper, it is not many you see with such strong spangle markings.

Their Dad

 

 

They're beautiful birds Liv, well done!

Melanistic Spangle. That is why the markings are so good. note the full throat spots and the white tail.

There is more than one type of spangle ??????

great another thing to keep up with

Edited January 5, 200916 yr by JimmyBanks

Melanistic Spangles

http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=15339

 

I learn something new every day

Liv you might have a chance to do what I was goiung to do, before losing the birds. If you can bred another Melanistic, hopefully a hen bird. Pair it back to the cock bird. This should give you 25% Double factor Melanistics. They are one of the most stricking Budgerigars of all. Very much like a Clear wing but full size and the bidy is very close to full colour with totally clear wings.

I have always liked his markings.

At the moment he had 2 rounds with a green cinnamon hen and has produced normals, opaline spangles and spangles. babies range from blue, green to grey green.

 

So he must be split for opaline too along with the hen who is split for blue....

Edited January 5, 200916 yr by **Liv**

I thought the same as Daz with the young opaline as I had a nest of them but relising what they were culled the lot becaus ethe markings were so strong and thick.

I thought the same as Daz with the young opaline as I had a nest of them but relising what they were culled the lot becaus ethe markings were so strong and thick.

 

Are the dark wing markings not desirable?

Not for show LIv because I took one along to be selceted fro the uncapped shield and they told the markings were too heavy.

BUT that doesn't mean you can't breed them maybe one day we can show them

okay, great to know

 

thanks Daz and Splat. :thankyou:

that grey cock sure is nice

That is a seriously beautifully marked spangle. The oplaine markings are great also.

 

For show purposes the markings are but a small percentage of the overall points. If the budgie is a good budgie I would show it. There are to many Spangles getting around these days with markings that are almost invisable. I personally would be breeding better marked spangles if I could get hold of good stock to start.

 

Right now I would settle for a decent sized Clearwing hen. I have a split cock left from my preious stud at my mates places. He a bit old but he just bred with him.

The answer to good markings is spangle to spangle to get Double factors then put double factors to normals to get the good markings preferably a normal out of a spangle. It works as mine are improving on their markings this year by far.

Ooh,good to know My final lot of starter birds will be normals purchased from a guy I know who predominantly breeds spangles, DFs and normals so I'll ask him for history before I select the normals I want.

Gorgeous bird, I absolutely believe that spangles are so stunning when their markings are very defined and dark.

i agree elly, just another thing I plan on changing in the fancy once i've been judging for 20 years

i was always under the impreshion that the wing markings were to be crisp and clear

the 2 bird i would clasafiy perfictly marked liv but thats me most my spangles i breed get sold if not crisp and clear dark to modaretly dark of course unless a greywing

i dont think they should be lightly marked though they should be like lace work delicatly following the edge of the feather

in my opinion

The one I showed had real heavy markings was classed as bad variety which was written on the box which is the same as a spangle with real light markings it is classed as bad variety.