I was thinking about budgie genetics the other day. (Isn't that normal? :emoticon112: ) And I got to thinking, we have normal black wings, all the diluted greywings, and the cinnamon wings. But since cinnamon is a sex-linked gene, and greywing isn't, couldn't a bird have both? What would it look like? So I searched the forum, and came up with only one tiny reference, easily overlooked:

 

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Appearance:

In appearance the Cinnamon differs primarily from the Normals and Greywings in that its markings are cinnamon-brown instead of black or grey. The Cinnamon varieties, as the Standard indicates, correspond with the Normal varieties of the same body coloring. There is also a lighter form corresponding with the Greywings of the same body coloring

 

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click here to see the post I found this in. It has another link to the article I quoted.

 

So my question is, does anyone else know more about this? Have any of you ever had/bred/seen an example?

 

My guess would be that it would look like a regular cinnamon, only lighter, and therefore, not really distinquishable, unless you happened to know the genetic background and were looking to observe a difference.

 

There's no real reason I want to know this, just curiosity!

Yes a cock bird can be a visual Greywing and split Cinnamon, which would be a Greywing breeder's nightmare .....

 

I haven't seen a Cinnamon Greywing personally but it's certainly not something you'd want to see

Interestingly this quote from an article

The Greywing Budgerigar by Alistair Home

 

 

Combination with Cinnamon is best avoided because the combination is excluded from the show bench and will be disqualified in Australia. Personally I find this regrettable because some of the most beautiful birds I have ever bred were Opaline Cinnamon Greywing Skyblues and I would have loved to show them. They were always picked out by visitors and admired, because the visual effect was of a pure blue bird (body and wings) with a completely white helmet with very faint markings on the back of the head.

 

Full article http://www.anbc.iinet.net.au/downloads/C&a...0Budgerigar.pdf

Here's one. The cinnamon is not obvious but as her father was a cinnamon it is definately there

I'm sorry, I forgot to get back to this post.

 

Here's one. The cinnamon is not obvious but as her father was a cinnamon it is definately there

 

 

So this one looks like a regular greywing, but since it is a girl, it has to have inherited the cinnamon gene from her dad. So in theory, I'm right? If you didn't know the genetic background, you would not guess it had cinnamon, huh?

 

 

I read the article Kaz put a link to, and it perked my interest, especially about the opaline cinnamon greywings that his visitors all like.

 

So I got to wondering if I could produce a bird like that, and how many cinnamon birds would I have to buy to do it, as I have opaline and greywing genes in my little flock, but no cinnamon genes.

 

So I took a pen and paper and spent a whole evening figuring out what pairings and how many generations it would take me. (Don't worry, it was fun )

 

No matter how I worked it, I couldn't do it by purchasing one cinnamon bird, I needed to start with 2, male and female. Then it would take me four generations (and a lot of luck!) to combine all three of those mutations. So I don't think I will be attempting that. Oh well, that would be a pretty bird to see ( skyblue cinnamon opaline greywing).

 

I don't see too many cinnamon wings in the pet stores around here. I did see a yellow face one once. It was pretty, but it was a hen, and I needed a male. I think if I ever stumbled across a cinnamon that was already mixed with opaline, I would snap it up, and then see about trying to add greywing. Oh well, it's all academic at this point!