it's just a tall wide cage, the budgies head can't fit through trust me they have tried.i know i may seem like i know nothing but i know enough to impress a professional breeder, i visit breeders web pages also i have visited many i mean many breeding pages for info, even if you all can guide me through the process that would be fair, i have seen people who only had budgies for like a month and then try to breed them and are successful,