SarahC 0 Posted December 30, 2011 Member ID: 6,793 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 59 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 480 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 20/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 9, 2014 Birthday: 28/01/1987 Share Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) You may recall about 6 months ago I posted my budgie that does backflips...well here are pictures of his father. Some nice combination of genetics. He is the grey-light violet colour on his rump - nearly colourless on his stomach, has cinnamon wings (they look more greywing in the pics but they are cinnamon), he is a dominant pied and has red eyes (you can imagine the surprise I had when he was a baby, expecting an albino and ending up with this. I have also attached pictures of his parents (who are sadly now deceased). What else I find interesting is his cere is still pinky purple, and has never gone blue (even though he is 4 years old), and his son (the back flipping budgie) also has a dull cere for a male. Any ideas of what you would call his genetics are greatly appreciated. Here is a something resembling a family tree.... Hedwig (F) (white lacewing) + Bluey (M) (greywing purple, looks exactly like Beaky) = Beaky (M) Kali (F) + Harry (M) = Fidget (F) Fidget + Plucky = Bullet (F) Bullet (F) + Beaky (M) = PEARL (M) Kali (Pearl's great grandmother)- the one who started it all...my original budgie (Including Pearl's Baby I am into my 5th generation of "Kali Pieds" yet I have never been able to recreate her exactly ) Harry (Pearl's Great Grandfather) Fidget (Pearl's grandmother) Bullet - Pearl's mother Beaky - Pearl's Dad (He only had about 3mm of beak under his cere, as his mother ripped it off when he was very young... even with less than half a beak he had a good life, was a fat bird and was probably one of the best parents I have ever had) .......................................... NOW..... PEARL!!! It's hard to see his red eyes, but they're definitely red He is a good tame boy, like most of my budgies I keep I wonder...the blue through his wings if he is split opaline... lots of opalines came from his parents... Pearl next to his mate (a cinnamon purple). Their daughter is above them. So after all of that, what do you think? I think he has to be prettiest bird I have bred. His colouring is so iridescent in the sunlight. Edited December 30, 2011 by SarahC Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted December 30, 2011 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) hey i think hes a cinnamon mauve-violet fellow dom pied you sure it was a lacewing that your first breed pair was not a cinnamon fellow ??? do you have a shot of the white lacewing mum that was with bluey also would explain it as fellow is recessive genetic lacewing is sex linked ive seen one only ever like him the lady down road had him brought from pet shop i was spuing as i so wanted to breed fellow pied and yes the colour is iridecent in the light i remember how viberant it was on one i saw fantastic his cere wont change colour whats his son look like again can i see please his dad looks like a cinnamon violet grey wing Edited December 30, 2011 by GenericBlue Link to comment
SarahC 0 Posted December 30, 2011 Member ID: 6,793 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 59 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 480 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 20/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 9, 2014 Birthday: 28/01/1987 Author Share Posted December 30, 2011 I will get the photos of Hedwig and Kami (the back flipping one) soon. Kami just looks like a normal dark blue pied. What you have said was my guess too, but I was wondering if there was clearbody in the mix somewhere too. Pearl and his mate are making lots of normal pieds and normals (sky, dark and purply-dark blue). I have to say I am a little disappointed that I haven't managed to recreate Pearl too. I have lost track now as I never put a ring on him... but I believe he was born in Kali - 2002 (bought her as a baby) Fidget - 2004 Bullet - 2005/6 Pearl - probably late 2006/ early 2007 because the aviary was built in October 2008 and he was a house bird at that stage... I am getting worried he is going to be over breeding age soon. He only started to breed this year. Let's hope for a good 2012 season!! Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted December 30, 2011 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I will get the photos of Hedwig and Kami (the back flipping one) soon. Kami just looks like a normal dark blue pied. What you have said was my guess too, but I was wondering if there was clearbody in the mix somewhere too. Pearl and his mate are making lots of normal pieds and normals (sky, dark and purply-dark blue). I have to say I am a little disappointed that I haven't managed to recreate Pearl too. I have lost track now as I never put a ring on him... but I believe he was born in Kali - 2002 (bought her as a baby) Fidget - 2004 Bullet - 2005/6 Pearl - probably late 2006/ early 2007 because the aviary was built in October 2008 and he was a house bird at that stage... I am getting worried he is going to be over breeding age soon. He only started to breed this year. Let's hope for a good 2012 season!! ive got cocks 7 years old still breed fertile as so if you look after him dont over breed him he shouldbe fine if you can pair him back to a daughter of his own he may just toss out a another like himself can you photo all his hen chicks ill try help you get one like him Link to comment
SarahC 0 Posted December 31, 2011 Member ID: 6,793 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 59 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 480 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 20/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 9, 2014 Birthday: 28/01/1987 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 Unfortunately these are the only photos I have of Hedwig (these photos are from my old cubby house aviary) This photo is sad... not one of these birds are alive now. They mostly died of old age or I sold them at some point. The only photo of Hedwig that I have from the back. She did have the cinnamon coloured wing markings.... This is a photo of Pearl's baby, Kami. His cere really is bluer than this and he talks and acts like a male budgie.... The first one without flash... Kami - With Flash His sister's cere (sister from a the next clutch of eggs who was pictured originally in this post)...her cere has has already gone brown. Kami's has stayed a purply colour, that if he was younger I'd be suspicious that he is in fact a she. I am pretty darn sure though, as I said, by the way he mimics and mutters that it is a boy, also with his head bopping dancing.. Kami is 7-8 months old now. Link to comment
splat 0 Posted December 31, 2011 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I would say that Gb is right but I just want to say that I have a dom pied cock here that his cere is always pink. It has never gone blue and I wan won best adult bird in Intermediate with him. Link to comment
SarahC 0 Posted January 7, 2012 Member ID: 6,793 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 59 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 480 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 20/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 9, 2014 Birthday: 28/01/1987 Author Share Posted January 7, 2012 Thanks for your input about Pearl. Do you agree that Kami is a boy? (the blue pied in my last lot of pics). Link to comment
SarahC 0 Posted September 8, 2012 Member ID: 6,793 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 59 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 480 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 20/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 9, 2014 Birthday: 28/01/1987 Author Share Posted September 8, 2012 Just thought I'd mention that Kami turned out to be a girl. Also... Pearl has developed his random yellow feather again. I suppose it make sense with his mother being a yellowface but in a bird with so much blue genes it's pretty awesome. Link to comment
Neville 0 Posted September 9, 2012 Member ID: 4,610 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 714 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,640 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/08/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 15, 2015 Birthday: 09/12/1940 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Pearl is a dominant pied fallow. Hedwig may have been a cinnamon fallow rather than a lacewing, which would account for Beaky being split for fallow. Bullet must also be split for fallow but recessive genes can be passed down for many generations without showing Link to comment
nubbly5 0 Posted September 27, 2012 Member ID: 5,023 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 39 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,608 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 8,635 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 21, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) Definietly fallow! And as Neville says the lacewing was a cin fallow. Having bred a number of these I can tell you that they are virtually impossible to tell from a lacewing except when you breed them. Edited September 27, 2012 by nubbly5 Link to comment
SarahC 0 Posted November 27, 2012 Member ID: 6,793 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 59 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 480 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 20/06/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 9, 2014 Birthday: 28/01/1987 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 I am sad now, as Pearl passed away last week. RIP little buddy Link to comment
L__J 0 Posted November 27, 2012 Member ID: 7,482 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 438 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,910 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 5, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I am sad now, as Pearl passed away last week. RIP little buddy Awww so sad. I have had only 1 budgie. pass away not including my girlfriends sons. Link to comment
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