**KAZ** 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted May 4, 2010 (edited) I had a pair in the breeding cage...no eggs as yet. All going well between the pair. Cock was calm on the perch the last time I saw him. All good. No problems. Late afternoon today and I check them to give some soft food and the cock has begun to strip off all his feathers. He has removed all his wing flights, he has shredded his tail, and he has plucked his chest right down to his down feathers. I pulled him out of the breeder cage and put him in a show cage and watched him. He is jumping all around like a mexican jumping bean, rolling over and grabbing his tail feathers and pulling hard and biting at it and removing and shredding more tail feathers. No mites, no changes...except now he is acting mentally disturbed and shredding and removing all his feathers. Any ideas ???????????????????????? This has all changed in less than a day. Before and now Edited May 4, 2010 by KAZ Link to comment
splat 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I had one do that a couple of years ago, after a show, I put it down to stress, I always give them probotic and a energy supplment now after the show and all has been good, but I haven't come across that happening in the breeding cage, sorry I can't help. Link to comment
Dean_NZ 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 4,879 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 974 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,370 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/12/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 18, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Wow. Never seen or heard of this before. Sorry I cant be of any help, but it is quite interesting! Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted May 4, 2010 I will do some video and post shortly Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted May 4, 2010 Link to comment
Ratzy 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 5,628 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,283 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 8,095 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 22, 2012 Birthday: 26/03/1998 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Bird lice? Sorry, you've probably already checked for them. Poor thing. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted May 4, 2010 No mites, no changes... Bird lice? Sorry, you've probably already checked for them. Poor thing.already stated Ratzy, besides my birds get regular treatments. Does not explain the sudden change. Link to comment
lealotta 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 5,775 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 140 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 800 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/12/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 10, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Hi Kaz, I think it might be stress. I witnessed similar thing at auction on Sunday. It was a budgie in a show cage though - not in a breeding cage. He did the same thing. He ripped most of his belly feathers out and made a mess of his tail, crawling around the cage like mad. I probably shouldn't have, but I bought him. He is fine now and stopped pulling his feathers out. He is sitting in my quarantine cage with 2 other birds...no more mad behaviour or feather ripping. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted May 4, 2010 Hi Kaz, I think it might be stress. I witnessed similar thing at auction on Sunday. It was a budgie in a show cage though - not in a breeding cage. He did the same thing. He ripped most of his belly feathers out and made a mess of his tail, crawling around the cage like mad. I probably shouldn't have, but I bought him. He is fine now and stopped pulling his feathers out. He is sitting in my quarantine cage with 2 other birds...no more mad behaviour or feather ripping. Stress does seem to be the only option. I wonder what set him, off ? Link to comment
Maddy 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 5,779 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 497 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,455 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/12/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2019 Birthday: 07/08/1989 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I had a look at my bird health and disease and looked for the symptoms. The only two things I can see is: 'Giardiasis', two of the signs being: - Excessive feather grooming and - Feather picking and screaming It's not Common in Australia The only other other one is Feather picking, caused by stress. And from the video it looks like the likely option. I had the same problem with some of my finches when I bred them. I solved it by taking them out of the aviary and separating them for a while. It was only the males doing it so I assumed it was stress from breeding. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted May 4, 2010 I had a look at my bird health and disease and looked for the symptoms. The only two things I can see is: 'Giardiasis', two of the signs being: - Excessive feather grooming and - Feather picking and screaming It's not Common in Australia The only other other one is Feather picking, caused by stress. And from the video it looks like the likely option. I had the same problem with some of my finches when I bred them. I solved it by taking them out of the aviary and separating them for a while. It was only the males doing it so I assumed it was stress from breeding. Well since he developed the habit over just an hour or two I would rule out Giardia. Maybe the hen put the hard word on him Link to comment
splat 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Not good Kaz the bird that did it here plucked all his down and all, had to put a little collar on him so he couldn't pluck anymore. Maybe he is trying to tell you I don't like that hen let me out sorry, but it does look like stress. Link to comment
hilly 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 5,144 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 267 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 20, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Maddy might be right Giardia is a possibility he seems to be irritated, wouldn't hurt to put him on a course of Ronivet to be on the safe side. I had a look at my bird health and disease and looked for the symptoms. The only two things I can see is: 'Giardiasis', two of the signs being: - Excessive feather grooming and - Feather picking and screaming It's not Common in Australia The only other other one is Feather picking, caused by stress. And from the video it looks like the likely option. I had the same problem with some of my finches when I bred them. I solved it by taking them out of the aviary and separating them for a while. It was only the males doing it so I assumed it was stress from breeding. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted May 4, 2010 (edited) Maddy might be right Giardia is a possibility he seems to be irritated, wouldn't hurt to put him on a course of Ronivet to be on the safe side. They were all dosed on Ronivet a few weeks ago. Also he was fine at 12 when I was in there and he wasnt by 3pm. 3 hours work to do what he did to himself. He's been with the hen 3 weeks. Hasnt been iirritated at all Edited May 4, 2010 by KAZ Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Maddy might be right Giardia is a possibility he seems to be irritated, wouldn't hurt to put him on a course of Ronivet to be on the safe side. I had a look at my bird health and disease and looked for the symptoms. The only two things I can see is: 'Giardiasis', two of the signs being: - Excessive feather grooming and - Feather picking and screaming It's not Common in Australia The only other other one is Feather picking, caused by stress. And from the video it looks like the likely option. I had the same problem with some of my finches when I bred them. I solved it by taking them out of the aviary and separating them for a while. It was only the males doing it so I assumed it was stress from breeding. what is that ???? Link to comment
Maddy 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 5,779 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 497 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,455 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/12/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2019 Birthday: 07/08/1989 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Giardiasis is an infectious disease caused by a parasite present in the drinking water of many cities. Again, its more common in the US That is very odd Kaz its as if something has just snapped quite suddenly in the birds mind Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted May 4, 2010 (edited) Giardiasis is an infectious disease caused by a parasite present in the drinking water of many cities. Again, its more common in the US That is very odd Kaz its as if something has just snapped quite suddenly in the birds mind Yeah...it was very sudden. Happened about the same time the hen decided the nestbox was a very good idea. Maybe being pressured for budgie bonking was more than he could bear Meanwhile he is segregated and I hope he is a little better in the morning. I certainly hope he doesnt make a bigger mess of his beautiful feathers Edited May 4, 2010 by KAZ Link to comment
hilly 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 5,144 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 267 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 20, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2010 (edited) Good luck Edited May 4, 2010 by hilly Link to comment
splat 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I had a look at my bird health and disease and looked for the symptoms. The only two things I can see is: 'Giardiasis', two of the signs being: - Excessive feather grooming and - Feather picking and screaming It's not Common in Australia The only other other one is Feather picking, caused by stress. And from the video it looks like the likely option. I had the same problem with some of my finches when I bred them. I solved it by taking them out of the aviary and separating them for a while. It was only the males doing it so I assumed it was stress from breeding. Well since he developed the habit over just an hour or two I would rule out Giardia. Maybe the hen put the hard word on him Yes and he frieked out, doesn't know how to do it OR is he gay, so instead of telling the hen he is a dud or gay he thinks plucking himself she will never know What some males will do He would of been better to come out of the closet at least he would still have his feathers :rofl: Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Hey hey hey, don't blame it on males. Note it occurred when the hen got interested in the nestbox. She has pressured him. Performance anxiety has obviously struck. He is not a piece of meat. He has feelings. I blame the hen. There, I have said it, stop pressuring us....er, them.....whatever, you women know what I mean!!!!!!!! Link to comment
Maddy 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 5,779 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 497 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,455 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/12/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2019 Birthday: 07/08/1989 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Link to comment
Houman 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 5,901 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 388 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,097 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 28, 2020 Birthday: 01/01/1994 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Hey hey hey, don't blame it on males. Note it occurred when the hen got interested in the nestbox. She has pressured him. Performance anxiety has obviously struck. He is not a piece of meat. He has feelings. I blame the hen. There, I have said it, stop pressuring us....er, them.....whatever, you women know what I mean!!!!!!!! :rofl: Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted May 4, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted May 4, 2010 i thought cocks liked hens that were forward comming :rofl: mabe she was just to much hen for one cock to handle :hap: Link to comment
anne101 0 Posted May 5, 2010 Member ID: 5,199 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 88 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 941 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,680 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 11, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2010 How is he today Kaz? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 5, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted May 5, 2010 How is he today Kaz? He's quiet. I havent seen any feather shredding today. I put him in a cage with two other budgies to see how he gets on. He just went straight to the food dish Link to comment
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