Guest hayden Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 hey everyone is it best to breed the one colour of budgies for best colour results of the offsprings? Link to comment
LittleBudgie2005 0 Posted April 15, 2010 Member ID: 5,309 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 433 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,385 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 1, 2011 Birthday: 10/03/1987 Share Posted April 15, 2010 What do you mean one colour...? Do you mean two green budgies together...? Are you talking about show or pet type budgies too...? Why do I ask because all of this matters as to who we breed with what... Example, show budgies we breed two budgies together that would breed us show quality young... The cock and hen would have to cancel out each others faults... One with short mask other with long mask... And there are some varieties we do not breed together at all... Link to comment
Guest hayden Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 im talking about breeding show birds, as if two yellows together will this bring me better results of what colour the young are?? thanks Link to comment
JimmyBanks 0 Posted April 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,130 Group: Site Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,370 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 25,112 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2015 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted April 15, 2010 It all depends on their genetics... When you say Yellow Birds, are they Lutino's or DF Spangles? What were their parents? Link to comment
LittleBudgie2005 0 Posted April 15, 2010 Member ID: 5,309 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 433 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,385 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 1, 2011 Birthday: 10/03/1987 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Example for Lutino's (yellow budgies) if you bred the two together you get Lutino young... But Lutino come in different shades of yellow too... so you may end up with some dull yellow and really deep golden yellows... You could use the Grey greens to a Lutino to give them more features, buff, feather directions, etc... Because you are talking about all varieties there is so much info for it all you would have to read some of the other posts available on the forum to learn more... Hope this helps... Link to comment
Guest hayden Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 It all depends on their genetics... When you say Yellow Birds, are they Lutino's or DF Spangles? What were their parents? wat are genetics? not sure weather they are lutinos or DF spangles im not sure what there parents were i brought them at a pet shop i didnt breed them guess you cant help me out as i dont no much about them thanks anyway Link to comment
JimmyBanks 0 Posted April 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,130 Group: Site Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,370 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 25,112 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2015 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted April 15, 2010 (edited) do they have black eyes or red eyes? Are they completely Yellow or do they have Black/Cinamon Markings? Edited April 15, 2010 by JimmyBanks Link to comment
Guest hayden Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 do they have black eyes or red eyes? Are they completely Yellow or do they have Black/Cinamon Markings? they have red eyes with white tips on the tip of there wing sorry about before i was over reacting sorry Link to comment
LittleBudgie2005 0 Posted April 15, 2010 Member ID: 5,309 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 433 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,385 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 1, 2011 Birthday: 10/03/1987 Share Posted April 15, 2010 red eyes and white wing tips are Lutinos... Link to comment
Guest hayden Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 red eyes and white wing tips are Lutinos... cool thankyou sooooooooooooooo much Link to comment
JimmyBanks 0 Posted April 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,130 Group: Site Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,370 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 25,112 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2015 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted April 15, 2010 do they have black eyes or red eyes? Are they completely Yellow or do they have Black/Cinamon Markings? they have red eyes with white tips on the tip of there wing sorry about before i was over reacting sorry Dunno what your sorry for but theres no need to be sorry I didn't get offended by anything you said. now I'm trying to figure out what I was meant to get upset with... okay so they are both Lutino's... That being the case, I wouldn't breed lutino x lutino, unless they are a top notch pair, I'd be pairing them up to some Grey Greens like LittleBudgie2005 said in order to increase size and other features... Hope this helps. Link to comment
Guest hayden Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 do they have black eyes or red eyes? Are they completely Yellow or do they have Black/Cinamon Markings? they have red eyes with white tips on the tip of there wing sorry about before i was over reacting sorry Dunno what your sorry for but theres no need to be sorry I didn't get offended by anything you said. now I'm trying to figure out what I was meant to get upset with... okay so they are both Lutino's... That being the case, I wouldn't breed lutino x lutino, unless they are a top notch pair, I'd be pairing them up to some Grey Greens like LittleBudgie2005 said in order to increase size and other features... Hope this helps. wat would happen if i did lutino x lutino?? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 15, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Dunno what your sorry for but theres no need to be sorry I didn't get offended by anything you said. now I'm trying to figure out what I was meant to get upset with... You missed out on some earlier posts JB But moving on............... so your lutinos are male and female Hayden ? as it can be hard to tell with them Link to comment
Guest hayden Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Dunno what your sorry for but theres no need to be sorry I didn't get offended by anything you said. now I'm trying to figure out what I was meant to get upset with... You missed out on some earlier posts JB But moving on............... so your lutinos are male and female Hayden ? as it can be hard to tell with them yer there lutinos as far as i no Link to comment
JimmyBanks 0 Posted April 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,130 Group: Site Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,370 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 25,112 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2015 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted April 15, 2010 wat would happen if i did lutino x lutino?? I'm no expert when it comes to genetics, as my quiz results show but from what I've read it can result in smaller offspring. Not what show breeders want... Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 15, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted April 15, 2010 yer there lutinos as far as i no Thats not what I was asking....it seems they are lutinos. I was asking if you are very sure you have a male and female as it can be hard to tell with lutinos. If you arent too sure we can help. Link to comment
Guest hayden Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 (edited) yer there lutinos as far as i no Thats not what I was asking....it seems they are lutinos. I was asking if you are very sure you have a male and female as it can be hard to tell with lutinos. If you arent too sure we can help. oh sorry im pretty sure they are male and female i no one of them are female because she has bred before Edited April 15, 2010 by hayden Link to comment
LittleBudgie2005 0 Posted April 15, 2010 Member ID: 5,309 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 433 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,385 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 1, 2011 Birthday: 10/03/1987 Share Posted April 15, 2010 If they are a female and male Lutino and bred together you would only get lutino's... But that doesnt take into any splits they may have... Splits are hidden genetic's they dont show on the outside...Lutino's are hard to sex until they are mature enough to breed... As Lutino's have a gene that stop all black markings showing on them and also effects their cere (nose) colour... Photo's would be a great help to us if you need to confirm that they are male and female... :)Has she breed for you or someone else...? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 15, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Link to comment
Guest hayden Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 If they are a female and male Lutino and bred together you would only get lutino's... But that doesnt take into any splits they may have... Splits are hidden genetic's they dont show on the outside...Lutino's are hard to sex until they are mature enough to breed... As Lutino's have a gene that stop all black markings showing on them and also effects their cere (nose) colour... Photo's would be a great help to us if you need to confirm that they are male and female... :)Has she breed for you or someone else...? sorry i dont have any photos she has bred for me twice all your answers have helped heaps thank you all sooooo much Link to comment
Squeak_Crumble 0 Posted April 15, 2010 Member ID: 5,236 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 71 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,025 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,515 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2013 Birthday: 11/06/1997 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Has the hen been with the same cock both times? It would help if we knew the outcomes of the chicks from previous clutches. The way to tell if the cock is a cock, His cere (fleshy part above nose) should be pink or a purple colour. If both of their noses are brown, you have two hens Link to comment
Guest hayden Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Has the hen been with the same cock both times? It would help if we knew the outcomes of the chicks from previous clutches. The way to tell if the cock is a cock, His cere (fleshy part above nose) should be pink or a purple colour. If both of their noses are brown, you have two hens looks like i have a hen and a cock then! as one of them have blue ceres and the other has brown ceres no the hen has been with two different cocks, one was blue and the other yellow with black and blue markings the offsprings colour from the blue cock were bright green and cinamon the offspring from the other cock is a cimamon colour too Link to comment
JimmyBanks 0 Posted April 15, 2010 Member ID: 4,130 Group: Site Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,370 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 25,112 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2015 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted April 15, 2010 The male Lutino has a blue cere? Link to comment
Squeak_Crumble 0 Posted April 15, 2010 Member ID: 5,236 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 71 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,025 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,515 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2013 Birthday: 11/06/1997 Share Posted April 15, 2010 A male Lutino should have a Pink or purple cere. Hen should have brown. If your "lutino" has a blue cere, he may be a pied , check him for any green, or he may be a double factor spangle. Check the eyes again, because they will not be red unless he is a Lutino Link to comment
Guest hayden Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 A male Lutino should have a Pink or purple cere. Hen should have brown. If your "lutino" has a blue cere, he may be a pied , check him for any green, or he may be a double factor spangle. Check the eyes again, because they will not be red unless he is a Lutino i just checked his eyes and they are black Link to comment
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