**KAZ** 0 Posted July 18, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Other commentds from experts and judges who saw the photos of this bird........ A feather duster..........but a great looking one and ......... The bird has over long feather formation and incredible growth. You have to remember that a buff bird has lots of underdown feathering Kaz. This give the impression of lots of feather. This bird has lots of primary feather that overgrows its down and contour feathers. The more I look at it the more I am convinced. What a lovely bird though. Tell her good on her for breeding it. many fanciers believe you are right at the cusp of maximaum feather when you breed a duster. Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted July 18, 2009 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Author Share Posted July 18, 2009 (edited) Great words of wisdome there. I believe it to be a recessive gene, which means that both parents are split to it. It appears i have 3 dusters in this nest. here they are.... (they are rather sweet) Edited July 18, 2009 by **Liv** Link to comment
krosp 0 Posted July 18, 2009 Member ID: 4,621 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 95 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 777 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,955 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/08/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 10, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Oh the poor little darlings Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 18, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Oh NO you have too Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted July 18, 2009 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Oh NO you have too what is to be the fate of these birds liv ???????? i dont refure to them being killed just as to will u be keeping them or will they be given to known people as pets Link to comment
Angelic Vampyre 0 Posted July 18, 2009 Member ID: 3,545 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 207 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,028 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,140 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/07/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Pack them up and send them to me I'll Take them! I know it is horrible but they are darn cute! Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 18, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 18, 2009 (edited) Liv will keep them as long as she can as indoors budgies. They do not generally have a long life.....most often just weeks. I knew of one that made it to 18 months though. Edited July 18, 2009 by KAZ Link to comment
shannon bird breeder 0 Posted July 18, 2009 Member ID: 4,671 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,386 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 7,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/09/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 24, 2011 Birthday: 12/09/1994 Share Posted July 18, 2009 sorry to here that you have 3 wow Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted July 18, 2009 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Author Share Posted July 18, 2009 Yes i will be keeping these little ones as comfortable and healthy for as long as possible they are so soft and cuddly. :rofl: It will break my heart when they pass... but for now I want to learn as much as i can about them Link to comment
Catherine 0 Posted July 18, 2009 Member ID: 5,207 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 617 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,480 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 11, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2009 They are very beautiful, Liv. May they bring you much joy while you have them. :rofl: Link to comment
renee 0 Posted July 18, 2009 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Oh NO! :rofl: This is a terrible result what with feather dusters and weepy eyes ..... Don't put this pairing together again. And to date I haven't had a feather duster .... mind you Renee only gave me 4 chicks in total but I understand Robby comes from a stud of Feather Dusters. Link to comment
Guest crystal_feather Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 You should look into spirulina, I mix it with the seed of all my birds, it's excellent stuff. It may or may not help feather dusters but you have little to loose in trying it. Look for it in health food stores. Just a sprinkle over fruit, veg or mixed through the seed. It lasts ages with birds. http://www.parrot-paradise.com/spirulit.shtml HOW TO FEED Dehydrated spirulina is quite stable and has a very long shelf life, it can be stored for years as long as it is kept in a cool, dry, dark place. It comes as a fine dusty, very dark green powder. Feed it to adult birds year round,' especially during times of stress as when prepanng for a molt and during the breeding season. The suggested serving for adult birds is only 1% or even less of the diet on a dry weight basis. Many people simply keep it in a saltshaker and apply a light dusting on cut fruit and soft food or bake it into combread. Finch breeders mix it into the eggfood or as straight powder in a dish. Some fussy parrots are, at first, put off by the intense color. If you persist in presenting it to them they will finally taste it and find that it has a good flavor and will eat it right up. Avoid letting moistened spirulina set out on soft food overnight. It is mostly protein, and like any protein food it can turn rancid if exposed to conditions favoring bacteria. It is never good to mix food or vitamins in the drinking water. Remember also, it is always a good idea to keep food and water dishes spotlessly clean. Handfed baby birds thrive when spirulina is added to their regular formula at about a 2% by weight ratio. A little goes a long way, so don't over do it. It is especially good when fed together with avian specific Lactobacillus and Wheatgrass powder. Babies appear healthier, seem to be more resistant to sickness, grow heavier and their coloration and feather quality will be excellent. Spirulina is used with outstanding results on all psittacines, canaries and finches. Commercial breeders are having excellent results using spirulina. Spirulina exhibits special properties in scientific studies. Those using spirulina report that feathers become shiny, beaks and skin are smooth and the yellow, red, green and even blue color tones are deepened. Birds are healthier, all naturally, without synthetic vitamins, drugs or chemicals. The benefits of increased fertility and healthier birds has significant economic value in commercial aviaries, yet even pet birds can become even more beautiful and live longer, happier lives when spirulina is a part of their diet. Copyright © 1997-1999, Kim Thomas, Revised - November 98.. http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/6463/faq.html 1 Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted July 19, 2009 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 (edited) Thank you Chrystal feather, that sounds liike really interesting stuff and i willl look into it. :rofl: WOW kaz, do you think mine are heading for that look?? or are there different levels of FD??? can they have shorter feathers or will it just get worse as they get older??? Edited July 19, 2009 by **Liv** Link to comment
mysixbabies 0 Posted July 19, 2009 Member ID: 3,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 987 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,965 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 3, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2009 I must admitt, they are rather cute! Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted July 19, 2009 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted July 19, 2009 See, I fel sorry for them. I do not find them cute, but rather I feel pity for them. I am not sure what I would do if I bred one. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 19, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 19, 2009 (edited) Thank you Chrystal feather, that sounds liike really interesting stuff and i willl look into it. :)WOW kaz, do you think mine are heading for that look?? or are there different levels of FD??? can they have shorter feathers or will it just get worse as they get older???That FD was around 18 months old in that photo..........your will grow longer feathers soon enough.See, I fel sorry for them. I do not find them cute, but rather I feel pity for them. I am not sure what I would do if I bred one.I kind of see them as the bird equivalent of a downs syndrome baby.........there is beauty in all Gods creatures. I, like Liv, would do my best to give them a good life no matter how short it would be. I do find them beautiful. Edited July 19, 2009 by KAZ Link to comment
daniela 0 Posted July 19, 2009 Member ID: 5,298 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 518 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,950 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 30, 2013 Birthday: 10/03/1978 Share Posted July 19, 2009 (edited) it is such a shame how such a beautiful creature wont live a life it should have because of its parents such a shame i agree with kaz, i would give it the best life it could llive to make its small life worth it Edited July 19, 2009 by CUTE.SPANGLED.BUB Link to comment
Richo 0 Posted July 19, 2009 Member ID: 5,074 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 392 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,415 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Thank you Chrystal feather, that sounds liike really interesting stuff and i willl look into it. :)WOW kaz, do you think mine are heading for that look?? or are there different levels of FD??? can they have shorter feathers or will it just get worse as they get older???That FD was around 18 months old in that photo..........your will grow longer feathers soon enough.See, I fel sorry for them. I do not find them cute, but rather I feel pity for them. I am not sure what I would do if I bred one.I kind of see them as the bird equivalent of a downs syndrome baby.........there is beauty in all Gods creatures. I, like Liv, would do my best to give them a good life no matter how short it would be. I do find them beautiful. A good life no matter how short...what is considered short...us compared to a tortoise or a budgie compared to a galah...I feel some are missing the point...at the end of the day... Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 19, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Liv do you have pictures of these babies at various stages in the nest so I can see the progression of feather development ? Will be helpful at knoiwing what to look for and recognising signals....indicating what is to come. PS Cec and Brenda expressed their sadness at you having 3 in one nest..........said in all their breeding they have only ever had two at the same time in a nest. Link to comment
daniela 0 Posted July 19, 2009 Member ID: 5,298 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 518 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,950 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/05/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 30, 2013 Birthday: 10/03/1978 Share Posted July 19, 2009 real sadness for 3 babies not one baby to have a small life poor birds but its no nones fault...their quite beautifull too Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 Liv do you have pictures of these babies at various stages in the nest so I can see the progression of feather development ? Will be helpful at knoiwing what to look for and recognising signals....indicating what is to come. PS Cec and Brenda expressed their sadness at you having 3 in one nest..........said in all their breeding they have only ever had two at the same time in a nest. Thanks Kaz, I dont have any photos of this clutch after feathers started coming through... my bad not keeping a photo journal :hug: Before they feathered up they were all normal looking chicks. Also 50% of these chicks also have eye issues. However one FD has perfect eyes so it may not be related as a direct symptom. They did sound differnt in the nest.... i cant really explain the sound... it was like their chirp was gravely rather than a chrisp sound. The way i noticed it was when i had fantastic looking chicks (too good to be from my nests haha) and far better than their siblings. I knew i was too good to be true. These FD's also have 4 tail feathers rather than 2. I have also noticed that dispite all their feather, they will be quite suspeptable to the cold as when they bend to preen etc, large areas of their skin is exposed due to the long feathers creating a part. I will keep on taking photos of these guys so you will all be able to see the progression of their condition. It is sad to have gotten 3 in the one nest. There must be a real close genetic occurance with the parents.... If anyone can get the breeder details of Renee Ring: BC 345 06 WA would be very helpful to knowing why there has been such a mess with this pair. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 20, 2009 If anyone can get the breeder details of Renee Ring: BC 345 06 WA would be very helpful to knowing why there has been such a mess with this pair. Liv..........you will find that legring is WABC 345 06 .......WABC being an uncoded ring. Best ask Renee whar she knows of the mothers background, Link to comment
renee 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2009 If anyone can get the breeder details of Renee Ring: BC 345 06 WA would be very helpful to knowing why there has been such a mess with this pair. :party0011: Liv..........you will find that legring is WABC 345 06 .......WABC being an uncoded ring. Best ask Renee whar she knows of the mothers background, okay, just checked my records and she is one that I inherited from Peg - so sorry cannot help more. Maybe I'll follow this up when I catch up with her. Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Shame that such a beautiful coupling produced these results Link to comment
shannon bird breeder 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Member ID: 4,671 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,386 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 7,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/09/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 24, 2011 Birthday: 12/09/1994 Share Posted July 20, 2009 have a look at this http://home.clara.net/np21/duster.htm Link to comment
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