rachelm 0 Posted November 10, 2013 Member ID: 6,042 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 740 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2014 Birthday: 15/06/1977 Share Posted November 10, 2013 This is the first time I've done a breeding journal on the BBC. I thought I might share some of my photo's and experiences. I started my 2013 season in late July this year and so far I've bred over 80 birds, all show birds. I also love to breed pet budgies, with my main focus being on pretty colours. I have put down 8 pet pairs so far. Pair 1: Hen- Australian yellowface (AYF) sky opaline greywing spangle Cock-Australian yellowface (AYF) sky opaline spangle Pair 2: Hen- Cobalt violet opaline Cock- AYF sky greywing recessive pied + dominate pied Pair 3: Hen- Yellowface (probably mutant 2) sky opaline. Cock- AYF sky greywing recessive pied + dominant pied Pair 4: Hen- AYF cobalt greywing spangle Cock- Cobalt violet spangle. Pair 5: Hen- AYF cobalt violet Cock- AYF sky violet opaline recessive pied greywing/ yellow face Mutant 2. (Already sitting on 8 eggs 5 fertile so far) Pair 6: Hen- AYF cobalt recessive pied + dominant pied Cock- Grey dominant pied/ cinnamon Pair 7: Hen- Yellow face sky opaline greywing recessive pied (she hatched with one eye missing) Cock- Double factor AYF sky greywing Pair 8: Hen- Yellow face sky greywing Cock- Cobalt violet greywing fallow Link to comment
Flip 0 Posted November 14, 2013 Member ID: 7,490 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 88 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 510 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 26, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Hi Rachelm. Your pairs look gorgeous. I'm looking forward to hearing about their progress. You should get some gorgeous babies from those pairings. Link to comment
rachelm 0 Posted November 15, 2013 Member ID: 6,042 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 740 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2014 Birthday: 15/06/1977 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 Hi Rachelm. Your pairs look gorgeous. I'm looking forward to hearing about their progress. You should get some gorgeous babies from those pairings. Thank you Flip. Fingers crossed. As of today- Pair 1: No eggs yet. Pair 2: 2 eggs one already showing fertile. Pair 3: 2 eggs Pair 4: 3 Lay so far but keeps eating eggs. Pair 5: 9 eggs, 6 fertile first due 19th November. Pair 6: 5 eggs 0 fertile. Pair 7: 5 eggs 2 fertile Pair 8: No eggs yet. Pair 9: No eggs yet ( will add photo of pair nine) Link to comment
Nick123 0 Posted November 15, 2013 Member ID: 7,571 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 41 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 265 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 22/02/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 7, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Hi rachelm, I really like pair 2. Should be interesting mix. Link to comment
robyn 0 Posted November 15, 2013 Member ID: 5,241 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,887 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 10,750 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 19, 2018 Birthday: 21/12/1946 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Some beautiful birds there Rachelm, good luck with your breeding,sounds like a promising start. Except for the egg eater, could you try to rescue a couple of hers to foster? At least you may get some chicks from them. Link to comment
rachelm 0 Posted November 17, 2013 Member ID: 6,042 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 740 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2014 Birthday: 15/06/1977 Author Share Posted November 17, 2013 Some beautiful birds there Rachelm, good luck with your breeding,sounds like a promising start. Except for the egg eater, could you try to rescue a couple of hers to foster? At least you may get some chicks from them. Luckily the egg eater has stopped eating and has 3 eggs, 1 is fertile so far. Pair 9: Hen- Green recessive pied. Cock- Violet Greywing Link to comment
rachelm 0 Posted November 25, 2013 Member ID: 6,042 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 740 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2014 Birthday: 15/06/1977 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 Update. Pair 1: 0. Will probably replace hen at end of the week. Pair 2: 6 fertile out of 7 so far Pair 3: 4 fertile out of 7 so far Pair 4: 5 fertile out of 6 so far Pair 5: 2 chicks and 4 fertile eggs remaining. Pair 6: 5 fertile out of 8 so far. Pair 7: 4 babies and 2 fertile eggs remaining.(7 days old, then 5,3 and day old) Pair 8: 1 egg so far. Pair 9: 0 Here are some photo's of my other chicks today. Lacewings. Green. Blues. Dark Green and Light Green. Violet cobalt opaline. Yellow face grey. Violet cobalt opaline. Link to comment
maz7 0 Posted November 25, 2013 Member ID: 7,681 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 168 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 995 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/06/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 17, 2018 Birthday: 30/07/1958 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Your Lacewings look like Lutinos! Do they not have the red eyes and white patch? you sure know the mutation! I actually posted a new topic tonight help identify mutations? as I don't know half the birds I have bred's classifications I have an Albino female and a Lutino Female and have paired them with Spangles \olive green (Left on my member photo) and a blue and yellow headed budgie? CAn you tell me what they are This is chciks from Olive green Spangle male and white Albino hen: what would you call them?/albums/ag66/Maz758/Daffodil5_zpsce3125ce.jpg[/img][/url] Link to comment
BUDGIE L0V3R 0 Posted November 26, 2013 Member ID: 7,327 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 39 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 376 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,285 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Your Lacewings look like Lutinos! Do they not have the red eyes and white patch? Hi Maz, A lacewing is the same as a normal lutino but a lacewing will have faint brown wing markings instead of being pure yellow. They will also have faint brown spots around there neck. Thanks Link to comment
rachelm 0 Posted November 26, 2013 Member ID: 6,042 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 740 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2014 Birthday: 15/06/1977 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 Your Lacewings look like Lutinos! Do they not have the red eyes and white patch? Hi Maz, A lacewing is the same as a normal lutino but a lacewing will have faint brown wing markings instead of being pure yellow. They will also have faint brown spots around there neck. Thanks Lacewings are ino (albino or lutino) + cinnamon. At this age you can tell they are lacewings because their tail feathers are brown instead of yellow . Link to comment
rachelm 0 Posted December 10, 2013 Member ID: 6,042 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 740 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2014 Birthday: 15/06/1977 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Update as of today: 27 chicks Pair 1- Replaced hen with a cobalt violet greywing and so far they have 2 eggs. Pair 2- 6 chicks, 2 hatched with plum eyes so I know they are hens because the father is split cinnamon. 2 of the biggest chicks are in foster nests. Pair 3: 4 chicks, 1 of them is a cinnamon hen, father is split cinnamon. (plum eye, top and black eye) Pair 4: 4 chicks, 1 cinnamon hen. Pair 5: 5 chicks. Oldest is AYF cobalt violet opaline greywing hen, 2nd oldest is AYF cobalt violet greywing, 3rd chick is AYF opaline cobalt violet, the other 2 are AYF but I have to wait a bit for the colours to come through. Cute and cheeky oldest chick (21 days old) with this massive duster ( 28 days old). Pair 6: 3 chicks, 2 are cinnamon hens. Pair 7: 5 chicks. All chicks are a yellow face of some kind, there are spangles and recessive pieds. Spangles are easy to pick at a young age because the two main tails are clear. Dom pieds will also have two clear tail feathers. Recessive pieds have one clear and one coloured tail feather. Pair 8: 1 fertile egg out of 7. I love how neat this little circle of eggs are. Another hen with some of her own chicks are a yellowface pied foster (left). Pair 9: Nothing. Edited December 10, 2013 by rachelm Link to comment
maz7 0 Posted December 10, 2013 Member ID: 7,681 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 168 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 995 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/06/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 17, 2018 Birthday: 30/07/1958 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Oh my gosh they r the cutest! Fostering can only appen if a mom has chicksnhey?otherwise she wd abandon? You do u do fostering? For e g if a mom lies on unfertile eggs for the third time?can a person put babies in? Or must they have chicks. Link to comment
rachelm 0 Posted December 10, 2013 Member ID: 6,042 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 740 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2014 Birthday: 15/06/1977 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 Oh my gosh they r the cutest! Fostering can only appen if a mom has chicksnhey?otherwise she wd abandon? You do u do fostering? For e g if a mom lies on unfertile eggs for the third time?can a person put babies in? Or must they have chicks. Yes, I foster all the time and at times it gets very confusing remembering who is who. You can foster to a nest with no chicks, just make sure the eggs are 18 days + and the chick is less than a week old. Link to comment
Flip 0 Posted December 10, 2013 Member ID: 7,490 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 88 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 510 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 26, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Hi rachelm. You certainly seem to be having a successful breeding season. Your new chicks look gorgeous, and you have so many of them too! It would be useful for the less experienced forum members like myself if you are able to share some information about your breeding set up and processes. I, for one, am always looking to learn from others. By the way, I didn't know you could foster a chick to a nest with no chicks (noting the required age of eggs) - thanks for that. Link to comment
rachelm 0 Posted December 11, 2013 Member ID: 6,042 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 740 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2014 Birthday: 15/06/1977 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 It would be useful for the less experienced forum members like myself if you are able to share some information about your breeding set up and processes. I, for one, am always looking to learn from others. Yes, I will certainly try to help. Link to comment
maz7 0 Posted December 11, 2013 Member ID: 7,681 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 168 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 995 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/06/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 17, 2018 Birthday: 30/07/1958 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Yes I didn't know that either! My problem is fostering out when 1 mom has2 many and 1 too few. Will that work? Or will they kill them? Link to comment
rachelm 0 Posted December 11, 2013 Member ID: 6,042 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 740 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2014 Birthday: 15/06/1977 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 Yes I didn't know that either! My problem is fostering out when 1 mom has2 many and 1 too few. Will that work? Or will they kill them? Yes, that will work. Keep in mind chicks need to be of similar age and not too feathered, 3 weeks old is about the limit. Link to comment
robyn 0 Posted December 11, 2013 Member ID: 5,241 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,887 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 10,750 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 19, 2018 Birthday: 21/12/1946 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Some beautiful babies there Rachelm. Also beautifully clean nest box's well done. Good luck with your duster, it looks great at this point. Hope you have it for a good while yet. Link to comment
rachelm 0 Posted December 11, 2013 Member ID: 6,042 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 740 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2014 Birthday: 15/06/1977 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 Some beautiful babies there Rachelm. Also beautifully clean nest box's well done. Good luck with your duster, it looks great at this point. Hope you have it for a good while yet. Thank you Robyn. I'm in love with that duster, I need to come up with a name for her. It's my first and I think its nest mate could be one also. I will keep it going as long as possible. Link to comment
frankiebird 0 Posted December 12, 2013 Member ID: 7,802 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 14 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 110 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Wow, what beautiful birds! Love looking through all the photos. Link to comment
rachelm 0 Posted December 16, 2013 Member ID: 6,042 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 740 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2014 Birthday: 15/06/1977 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 The monster is getting bigger and fluffier. I don't know if it is a duster now. Maybe not a full one anyway. Here's a photo from yesterday 40 days old. She weighs 70grams, which is double the size of the the little pet chicks. With her younger nest mate. And all three nest mates together. Link to comment
maz7 0 Posted December 16, 2013 Member ID: 7,681 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 168 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 995 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/06/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 17, 2018 Birthday: 30/07/1958 Share Posted December 16, 2013 What gorgeous birds? What is a duster? Link to comment
robyn 0 Posted December 16, 2013 Member ID: 5,241 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,887 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 10,750 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 19, 2018 Birthday: 21/12/1946 Share Posted December 16, 2013 It doesn't really look like it's a duster when you see it next to it's siblings. I bred some with similar feathering and advice said it was a type of long feather gene. The ones I bred, they said, because I had both parents with that gene/mutation, I got a double wammy with long feathers. Advice was breed either parent with smaller pet type birds to reduce the affect in later clutch's. Show breeders should be able to advise more info. Link to comment
rachelm 0 Posted December 17, 2013 Member ID: 6,042 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 740 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2014 Birthday: 15/06/1977 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Thanks Robyn, you are right about the long feather gene. I'm guessing that's what I have here. I put a photo up on a facebook page and the response was 'duster/mop'. I have also sent a photo to some guys in my budgie club and they said wait until it molts out. But looking feather dusters on the internet, it looks nothing like them. What gorgeous birds? What is a duster? http://forums.budgie...showtopic=23257 Edited December 17, 2013 by rachelm Link to comment
frankiebird 0 Posted December 18, 2013 Member ID: 7,802 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 14 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 110 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/12/13 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 How are the other babies doing rachelm? Link to comment
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