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Can someone confirm the sex of these two pleasssseeee

 

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Hi,

First is a male and second is a female.

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Hi,

First is a male and second is a female.

Thanks

I agree :)

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Hi,

First is a male and second is a female.

Thanks

I agree :)

 

I agree with that agreement!

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please can you explain why the first one is male. I would said it is a female too as his/her cere has different colors - blue and pink

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I have a budgie who has fathered chicks who has a cere like the first. He doesn't have all that white around his nostrils like the second.

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The first one is a male because he is a recessive pied type. Boys who are recessive pied (and some other mutations) don't show the usual blue male cere.

 

This is most likely a male because, as Phoebes says, there is no white around his nostrils. His cere will stay pinky/purple his whole life and never be blue. If you have one like this you really have to look hard for any white around the nostrils which indicates a female, I will try to find some of my old pictures to demonstrate the difference :)

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Thankyou so much, that is explained well

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thank you !! Got it :)

what age do you think these chicks are ?

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Will the female cere turn colour when she sin reeding condition?

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KiwiBudgie which chicks are you talking about?

 

Rihannan, yes it will get crusty and brown like this:

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Also male ceres, as follows:

 

A 'normal' male cere:

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A recessive male cere (left) and a normal male cere (right). Notice how the recessive male cere is pink all over:

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A recessive male cere (left) and a female just out of breeding condition cere (right). Notice the male cere is distinctly pink all over while the female cere is light brown/tan:

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A female out of breeding season cere. Notice the white around her nostril in particular and the overall lighter white/blue appearance of the rest of her cere as a whole:

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A young female cere (left) and a young male cere (right). Notice the white rings around the female cere, even though it looks slightly bluish and how the male cere is completely pink and has no white on it at all.:

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I hope this helps!!

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Helps a lot thanks!!

 

I know what they look like in breeding condition just didn't know if she was some mutation that causes it to be a different colour like the male lol

 

Thanks again

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Yeah it is really only the boys who are affected by mutation when it comes to ceres. Thos mutations are definitely recessive pied and inos and there might be a few more but i can't remember them off the top of my head!

 

Girls really only switch between light brown/blue to dark brown. It's harder when they are young as well and also recessive like the one in the last picture and then it really comes down to the white rings around the nostrils.

 

I have only had one before who I haven't been eventually able to pick. Originally thought she was a girl, then never went brown or showed interest in nesting boxes in three years so thought he was a boy then cere went brown and started nesting so she was a girl! SOOOOO confusing

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I " google" for ages before posting on here an trying to breed and turns out in still clueless!! Haha

 

I bought 3 females and two males from a breeder in town but I'm certain there are two females and 3 males lol I'll take some photos in natural light tomorrow and get your expert opinion lol

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KiwiBudgie which chicks are you talking about?

 

I thought about two first babies. White and blue

thank you !!

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