BUDGIE L0V3R 0 Posted October 12, 2013 Member ID: 7,327 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 39 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 376 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,285 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Hi all, I've been asking a few questions regarding my baby budgies over the past couple of weeks so I thought I would show them off now that they have started colouring up. I have a total of 30 babies, some are starting to leave the nests now and the mums are looking at laying there 2nd rounds. I was unable to have a picture of 1 clutch as it was to blurry, this clutch was the one that had 2 different mothers and have a nice assortment of colours. Here are my youngest chicks, unaware of colours yet. These are my second youngest, just a bit older than the previous ones. Looking to be blue opalines. The oldest box, missing a few chicks now that they have decided to fledge. This box could produce my first male lutinos, mother is a lacewing and father is a yellow grey wing, split to ino. they produced 2 grey wings (1male and 1female), 2 lutinos and one green (male) Second oldest box, babies of my best breeder, 2 lacewings (females) and 2 golden faces (1 male and 1 female) I know they are golden faces as I have bred a few of these from her and as they grow older the blue turns into a sea form green. 2 cinnamons, haven't really checked gender yet. Had 3 babies but 1 died at about 5 days of age, could only imagine what colour it could have been. 2nd largest box, 1 albino, 1 lutino (both female), 1 cinnamon, couple of other colours, and the one closet to the front is looking to be a violet yellowface cinnamon. Very excited about it! A fairly young baby, getting raised by its mother and also a male cockatiel, since hatching the cockatiel hasnt left the breeding box. He often raises budgie chicks and will feed them in the box and also when they fledge. 1 of the lutinos (hopefully first male) and 1 of the lutino lace wings, from different clutches. I am amazed of how different the yellows can be on birds, could any body tell me how I could get the lacewings yellow to become darker? The grey wing, related to the lutino. The golden face, only 2 left in the box it fledged from. Thanks for looking, most of the lutinos I have are going to be lacewing which is great, only bred 2 pure lutinos which are the ones that could become male. Link to comment
Phoebes 0 Posted October 12, 2013 Member ID: 7,514 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 33 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 335 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,065 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/12/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 23, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Some very beautiful birds. I especially love the one that has the color turquoise on her. That is one spectacular color! All beautiful. Link to comment
robyn 0 Posted October 12, 2013 Member ID: 5,241 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,887 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 10,750 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 19, 2018 Birthday: 21/12/1946 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Lovely lot of chicks Budgie Lov3r. I think the cockatiel has an identity problem, great to see they are so compatable in the same aviary. Your violet y.faced cinnamon looks interesting, can you add more pics as they fledge ? Link to comment
BUDGIE L0V3R 0 Posted October 13, 2013 Member ID: 7,327 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 39 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 376 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,285 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2013 Thanks for the comments, I think the cockatiel has an identity problem, great to see they are so compatable in the same aviary. Yeah it may have a bit of a problem there :laughter: , I've had them together for a long time without problems. The cockatiel raised the lacewing it is in the box with now so they have a pretty close bond. Your violet y.faced cinnamon looks interesting Is that interesting in a good way? Here are a couple pictures of the violet yf. cinnamon, not sure of the name but is it a clear fligt pied as well? (could be called something else) 4 of my lutinos together, 2 lacewing and 2 normal, still have about 3-4 lutinos and albinos to come out. This is the nest that has 2 mothers, 7 babies total. 1 normal blue, 1 blue clear flight pied? (unsure if that's correct name), a couple of green pieds and also a couple of lutinos (looking to be lacewings) Thanks for looking Link to comment
Birdlove 0 Posted October 13, 2013 Member ID: 7,401 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 298 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,895 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 31/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 7, 2015 Birthday: 28/02/1999 Share Posted October 13, 2013 you have a lot of cute and pretty little budgies there! I love lutinos and yellowfaces Link to comment
paulie 0 Posted October 14, 2013 Member ID: 7,392 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 240 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,280 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 30, 2014 Birthday: 02/06/1962 Share Posted October 14, 2013 budgie lov3r your question " I am amazed of how different the yellows can be on birds, could any body tell me how I could get the lacewings yellow to become darker?" Cinnamon gene will reduce the vibrancy of the body colour resulting in a paler body colour. Link to comment
robyn 0 Posted October 14, 2013 Member ID: 5,241 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,887 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 10,750 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 19, 2018 Birthday: 21/12/1946 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Your y.face cinn. violet looks like being a lovely bird. Looks like a good assortment of colours. Link to comment
rhiannan 0 Posted October 15, 2013 Member ID: 5,516 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 67 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 465 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/08/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 27, 2014 Birthday: 16/09/1990 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Love the goldenface? i would love an avairy full of them! Link to comment
Nadene 0 Posted October 15, 2013 Member ID: 7,164 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 405 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,325 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 6, 2017 Birthday: 13/10/1978 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Beautiful babies you have there I agree with Paulie on the lacewing question. Is that the true colour of the YF cinn because to me it looks like a YF mauve. I can't wait to see photos of it when it's fully feathered. Link to comment
BUDGIE L0V3R 0 Posted October 19, 2013 Member ID: 7,327 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 39 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 376 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,285 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 The yf. cin. violet is almost ready to fledge so I will post pictures anyday, i'm not sure if it is violet as it is looking like a light blue. I also have the same bird in the same box but without the cinnamon gene in it so I will compare the two together. I can't remember exactly but I think i was told that if a baby is cinnamon unless the mum is a cinnamon the baby will be a female even if male is cinnamon or split. Am i right or could the baby be either male or female. Male is cinnamon and mum isn't. Thanks Link to comment
paulie 0 Posted October 19, 2013 Member ID: 7,392 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 240 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,280 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 30, 2014 Birthday: 02/06/1962 Share Posted October 19, 2013 The yf. cin. violet is almost ready to fledge so I will post pictures anyday, i'm not sure if it is violet as it is looking like a light blue. I also have the same bird in the same box but without the cinnamon gene in it so I will compare the two together. I can't remember exactly but I think i was told that a baby is cinnamon unless the mum is a cinnamon the baby will be a female even if male is cinnamon or split. Am i right or could the baby be either male or female. Male is cinnamon and mum isn't. Thanks 'BUDGIE L0V3R Not sure if i understand the question but here goes. Cinnamon gene works much the same way as ino gene ;ie hen cannot be split cinnamon, The cinnamon gene can also crossover or mix with the ino gene as their loci are located extremely closely within the structure of the carrying chromosome. If you use the charts from SunshinEs other post and replace "ino" with "cin" you should be able to work it out. not withstanding ino-cin Xover. http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index.php?showtopic=32829&hl= Link to comment
BUDGIE L0V3R 0 Posted October 19, 2013 Member ID: 7,327 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 39 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 376 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,285 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 Thanks paulie it was pretty badly worded. You answered it correctly so you must be pretty smart to understand my bad writing. So that will mean my yf. Cin. Violet will be a female because the dad is a cinnamon and the mum isn't. Am I right in thinking that? Thanks Link to comment
paulie 0 Posted October 20, 2013 Member ID: 7,392 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 240 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,280 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 30, 2014 Birthday: 02/06/1962 Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) what are the parents? 1.0 being cock and 0.1 being hen. I think that is correct though Some one pls correct me if I'm wrong Basic for cin cock X non cin hen Xcin X 1.0 X Y 0.1 Xcin X 1.0 25% Xcin Y 0.1 25% XX 1.0 25% XY 0.1 25% or Xcin Xcin 1.0 X Y 0.1 Xcin X 1.0 50% Xcin Y 0.1 50% Edited October 20, 2013 by paulie Link to comment
SunshineE 0 Posted October 21, 2013 Member ID: 5,747 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 107 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 745 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 26/11/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 6, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) I think that is correct Paulie If the male is a visual cinnamon (not just split to cinnamon), all the female chicks will be cinnamon and all the male chicks will be split to cinnamon. This means that any visual cinnamons from a cinnamon male and non-cinnamon female will be female chicks. Edited October 21, 2013 by SunshineE Link to comment
BUDGIE L0V3R 0 Posted December 24, 2013 Member ID: 7,327 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 39 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 376 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,285 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 Hi all, Didn't really update this post once the babies left the box. They have now been sold, I still have the YF. Cin. Vio. but it has splayed legs, but is still fine perching and flying around the aviary. I will have to take some pictures for all of you to see her. My birds are currently going through there second round with about half the amount of babies from the first. I have pulled most females out of the aviary while the last babies are raised as I want to take the boxes out over summer, they have been in a little bit longer than I had wanted them to be, Once again I had 2 females nest in the same box, they laid 6 eggs and all appeared to be fertile but only 3 hatched and 1 died a day after hatching. If you know the name for the mutations could you please tell me. This box has 1 violet opaline 2 yellow pieds and an albino lacewing which has been fostered in This box contains 3 blue opalines (males split to cinnamon) and another albino lacewing which was fostered in This box only has 2 babies, originally had 4 but the dad passed away so I fostered 2 babies out. Contains 1 albino lacewing and maybe a pied? I am unsure could someone please clarify Thanks for looking, if you can clarify any colours please let me know. Link to comment
rachelm 0 Posted December 25, 2013 Member ID: 6,042 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 740 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2014 Birthday: 15/06/1977 Share Posted December 25, 2013 The last two looks like dominant pied and albino. Link to comment
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