Jackybean 0 Posted September 14, 2013 Member ID: 7,347 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 10 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 80 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/06/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Hello everyone! I just, this week, got a new male budgie, Buddy. I'm new to educating myself on the different mutations and Buddy is stumping me so I need your expert experience to identify his mutation(s) Just a little extra info that may not be visible in the pics is that he has one silvery cheek patch and one purple! Also, the place I got him from clipped his wings (way to short if you ask me) but from what I can see when his flights grow in they will be a very, very pale yellow, not a pure white. All of that plus his body and head markings lead me to believe he is df dominant pied and sf spangle mix or possibly recessive. Please help me out in figuring my new friend out its so confusing! LOL Link to comment
Pebble 0 Posted September 14, 2013 Member ID: 7,395 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 67 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 515 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 4, 2014 Birthday: 29/01/1981 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I am still new at this, but I will hazard a guess. Please don't take this as gospel, one of the more experienced people will confirm this for you. But I think I can see an iris ring so I'm thinking it's a light green dominant pied. Im not sure why the cheek patches are two different colours. Hope this helps. Link to comment
L__J 0 Posted September 14, 2013 Member ID: 7,482 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 438 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,910 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 5, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2013 You are right pebble his a green dominate pied. Link to comment
Jackybean 0 Posted September 14, 2013 Member ID: 7,347 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 10 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 80 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/06/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 22, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 Thanks Pebble and L_J! I appreciate you taking a stab at it Pebble. The reason I thought dominate pied and spangle mix was because of the cheek patches. As far as I knew the only mutation that can be mixed with those colors was spangle. Anyone know if that's correct? Link to comment
L__J 0 Posted September 15, 2013 Member ID: 7,482 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 438 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,910 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 5, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Can you get me a shot of his back? so I can look at his head markings better. Link to comment
L__J 0 Posted September 16, 2013 Member ID: 7,482 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 438 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,910 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 5, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Hey she/he is a double factor So a DF Dominate Pied. as she/he almost clear you can see on the wings. Link to comment
paulie 0 Posted September 16, 2013 Member ID: 7,392 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 240 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,280 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 30, 2014 Birthday: 02/06/1962 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I agree Df Dom Pied. That is 1 heavy wing clip. Link to comment
L__J 0 Posted September 17, 2013 Member ID: 7,482 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 438 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,910 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 5, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2013 wow Yeah I noticed that too. I hope OP realizes the person who done it has done it wrong. Link to comment
Jackybean 0 Posted September 18, 2013 Member ID: 7,347 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 10 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 80 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/06/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 22, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 I will get a picture of the back of his head for you tomorrow. He's sleeping for the night :-) I've actually been really worried about how short his wings have been clipped. He can't protect himself from falling to the floor when he tries to fly and he fell off a perch flapping his wings in place too. Poor little guy can't even flutter down. He hits hard. I warned my husband and son that we all need to be careful with him until they grow back. You don't think he will have a hard time growing them back do you? Link to comment
L__J 0 Posted September 18, 2013 Member ID: 7,482 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 438 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,910 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 5, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I am sure they will grow back its like asking how long is a piece of string. Link to comment
Jackybean 0 Posted September 18, 2013 Member ID: 7,347 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 10 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 80 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/06/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 22, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 I called the vendor that clipped my poor little buddy's wings and gave them ***. I hope they stop doing that to the birds imho it abusive Link to comment
paulie 0 Posted September 19, 2013 Member ID: 7,392 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 240 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,280 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 30, 2014 Birthday: 02/06/1962 Share Posted September 19, 2013 What did they have to say about their clipping practice? Suitably embarrassed I hope. Link to comment
Jackybean 0 Posted September 19, 2013 Member ID: 7,347 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 10 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 80 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/06/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 22, 2013 Author Share Posted September 19, 2013 Honestly, the store I purchased him from was very concerned and embarrassed and gave me the vendors info right away. The vendor I have a feeling was just trying to make me happy. They said they would look into who was clipping them too short and that they do have to clip them for their saftey during transport. I argued that they were obviously clipping them not for saftey but for convinced in handling them. Buddy isn't more than 12 wks old, he's still learning to hop, jump, play and even just getting around in a cage, he's more than a little clumsy without his wings right now. I put more perches in a smaller (its wide not high) cage for him while he's quatentined and clipped. I do clip a bird sometimes myself because of the layout of my house but only till there tame and know they have to stay in the living room.I usually only clip 2-4 primaries. I only ever had to do that with one bird who would fly to the ceiling and bump into it. Once he stopped he's been fully flighted since. Just a side note I only purchased him from a store cause there are no breeders in my area :-( I wish I could get one hand raised. Someday when I'm educated enough I may try breeding myself. Knowing me tho I prolly would have a hard time giving the birdies away tho lol Link to comment
L__J 0 Posted September 20, 2013 Member ID: 7,482 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 438 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,910 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/11/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 5, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Sounds like it was a way of forcing them to be tame. I know people who cart show budgies around with out a hassle, so they have a very poor excuse. I hope he can grow his wings back. Link to comment
Nadene 0 Posted September 22, 2013 Member ID: 7,164 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 405 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,325 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 6, 2017 Birthday: 13/10/1978 Share Posted September 22, 2013 They should be fine but they usually take a while to come back because they will have to moult out and regrow. Link to comment
Phoebes 0 Posted September 27, 2013 Member ID: 7,514 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 33 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 335 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,065 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/12/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 23, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Totally adorable little fellow. Link to comment
Birdlove 0 Posted September 29, 2013 Member ID: 7,401 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 298 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,895 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 31/08/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 7, 2015 Birthday: 28/02/1999 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Adorable lil budgie, very pretty too. He almost looks like he's glowing Link to comment
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