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Heya all!

 

So Pippin Tiberius is nearly 2, and he has been to the vet many times as he passes a lot of urine in his droppings (they believe that it may not be being "caught" when he poos, etc.) He has been on medications before with little result, and they indicated if he ever got worse and was lethargic/not chirpy to bring him back in for a water deprivation test.

 

He has not had any change in mood or energy at all. He plays with his toys a lot (is fascinated with his mirror!) and is always talking.

 

However, when I got home this evening, I noticed that his abdomen and his vent are a bit wet. And I don't know if he's just had a sneaky bath without me knowing or not. I took him in to have a bath, and when he came back out his other feathers dried pretty quickly but these ones still looked wet and slick.

 

Picture below. I couldn't get the camera to focus, but it's that abdominal patch plus his vent was rather damp.

 

Anyone have ideas? Or am I just being overprotective budgie momma?

 

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Hi it looks like he has just had a bath or been sitting in his water bowl just watch that it dries fine.

Cheers Jenny

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Hi Did the vets asked about his diet. Give us the details. What goes in can

affect what comes out.....B.J.

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Hi Jenny and Bird Junky,

 

He seems to have dried off but I can't see any evidence that he had a bath yesterday. Today he has been fine.

Still happy temperament, still chasing after his toy ball and chirping and talking.

 

In terms of diet, we struggle with that one a bit. He is on a seed diet, but I give him pellets on occasion as treats, and he eats apple, broccoli and parsley. We haven't been able to encourage him to eat many other things. I try to keep to greens though, because I know the apple would be contributing to his more watery output.

 

His annual checkup is coming in the next couple of weeks so I will also ask while I am there.

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Hi there,

 

I have a budgie with a similar sounding problem and would love to hear any updates you have on his progress. Also if you could take a picture of his droppings that would be good to see if they are similar to my birds. Check out my post "messy droppings" to see what you think. My grey pied has lots of urates in his droppings and he's had feacal and crop examinations all clear and is happy and fine :/ he has a wet vent and bit skinny but never gets any worse and aha happily. I don't know what it is!

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Hi Rachel. Pippin has had urates/water in his poop for quite a few months now - when I took him to the vet, they suggested that it may just be the way that his body is built (that, when he poops, he does not have the function to separate water from poop). He has been on antibiotics before without result.

 

They were going to do a water deprivation test to see if he was diabetic, but at the time I could not afford it, so I am going back for further feedback on Feb 10. :)

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My budgie has had it for as long as I've had him and I'm thinking its the way he is built too. Please let me know the results of your budgies test and if you could play a photo of his droppings to compare I would be very greatful. Does your budgie seem on the thin side and a little more lazy than other budgies? Is he inside bird etc? Please let me know I think our birds are similar.

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An update now that I've taken Pippin to the vet for his checkup (and a subsequent blood test).

 

I asked for additional blood tests since they had identified issues before, and they came back not crash hot. He has a protein level of 18 (apparently normal is 30-50?) and an infection that he has been fighting off. She believes it is a kidney issue. I was given antibiotics for him to take twice a day, and I've started to supplement some pellets as treats along with his seed and veges.

 

ANYWAY. I took him back on Tuesday for another blood test, and apparently the antibiotics have made his infection a lot worse - he has a high white cell count and his protein is only up to 20. But the vet wants me to continue to give him these antibiotics and to add another medication to take. Watery droppings have not changed since starting the antibiotics as well.

 

I just have concerns about having to give him what may start to be a lot of medication, especially keeping on one that has been augmenting the situation. It's also changing his temperament - every time he comes out of the cage he immediately flies onto the floor and hides under the table. A third appointment for him next Thursday, but if there aren't any slight improvements by then, I'm a bit unsure of what to do, or if I should get another vet's opinion.

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