Female With Lump By Vent Area

[The lion 0]

One of my female show type budgies has a lump that is really soft by the vent area i don't think she is egg bound, shes had this for about a week now, she laid an egg yesterday it was really small and had a thin shell, a week ago she just finished raising her clutch of babies, in the past i had seen her like this while incubating the eggs and then after it would go away, is this normal for a hen to have after raising/incubating eggs? the skin looks yellow and it was bigger a few days ago and now has gone down a bit in size their is no purple or swelling around the vent nor the skin around the lump thanks for the help

 

I took her to vet and was told it was swelling due to egg laying and incubating

[Finnie 0]

If it is common for the skin to swell in a yellow lump due to egg laying and incubating, then hopefully breeders with more birds and more experience will be able to come on here and tell you that they have seen it on their hens. It doesn't sound right to me. Was it an actual avian vet?

 

A yellow lump under the skin on any creature would make me think "pus filled", like a pimple or an abcess.

[The lion 0]

If it is common for the skin to swell in a yellow lump due to egg laying and incubating, then hopefully breeders with more birds and more experience will be able to come on here and tell you that they have seen it on their hens. It doesn't sound right to me. Was it an actual avian vet?

 

A yellow lump under the skin on any creature would make me think "pus filled", like a pimple or an abcess.

 

Yes it was an avian vet

[Finnie 0]

I'm sorry no one else seems to be coming and mentioning whether they ever get this on their hens.

 

If it's something that just comes and goes at breeding, but doesn't bother her otherwise, maybe she will be fine.

[The lion 0]

I'm sorry no one else seems to be coming and mentioning whether they ever get this on their hens.

 

If it's something that just comes and goes at breeding, but doesn't bother her otherwise, maybe she will be fine.

 

Its okay, here are some pictures

[The lion 0]

today i went to the vet again because i dont see any improvements and know i was told its a fatty deposit, but wasn't told if its dangerous or what i can give my hen to reduce it, does any one have any knowledge of what a fatty deposit is? ( this is the last time i go to that vet, they suck!! first im told one thing then another)

[Finnie 0]

Avian vets can be hard to find. I sometimes suspect that the one near me is no good either. The one guy they have in their office does all their "exotic" animals, and the rest are just regular vets. So I've always been a little suspicious about whether he is truly an avian vet, or just "specializes" in all the non cat and dog pets. In fact, I've never even gone in to see him, because whenever I call with a question, the staff puts me off, or says they will find the answer to my question, and then never calls me back.

 

The exotic vet himself called me back one time, and he was really personable, and I appreciated him spending about half an hour with me on the phone. But the final jist of the conversation still ended up with him advising me that all I could do was to bring in a dead body for tests (it was about young chicks dying), and that the tests would be expensive and likely inconclusive. So it was like he was telling me not to bother. But at least he gave me some insight into what was likely the cause, and he was very nice. And working from his advice about husbandry, since then I feel like I was able to resolve the issue.

 

I'd still go there if I needed to, but the staff of the place are going to lose the guy business.

 

Oh, about the fatty deposits. I'm not sure if they are curable once they develop. I think they are prone to coming back. But from what I hear, if you improve the bird's diet and excercise, the bird will lose weight, and that in turn will reduce the deposit, too. If it is fatty liver disease, then I am told giving Milk Thistle supplement can improve the condition. Don't know if that's true, or a wive's tale. With the fatty liver disease, you have to watch out for overgown beak and toenails.

 

Maybe this is why nobody came on here to say their breeding birds get this too. It apparently has nothing to do with egg laying.

[The lion 0]

Avian vets can be hard to find. I sometimes suspect that the one near me is no good either. The one guy they have in their office does all their "exotic" animals, and the rest are just regular vets. So I've always been a little suspicious about whether he is truly an avian vet, or just "specializes" in all the non cat and dog pets. In fact, I've never even gone in to see him, because whenever I call with a question, the staff puts me off, or says they will find the answer to my question, and then never calls me back.

 

The exotic vet himself called me back one time, and he was really personable, and I appreciated him spending about half an hour with me on the phone. But the final jist of the conversation still ended up with him advising me that all I could do was to bring in a dead body for tests (it was about young chicks dying), and that the tests would be expensive and likely inconclusive. So it was like he was telling me not to bother. But at least he gave me some insight into what was likely the cause, and he was very nice. And working from his advice about husbandry, since then I feel like I was able to resolve the issue.

 

I'd still go there if I needed to, but the staff of the place are going to lose the guy business.

 

Oh, about the fatty deposits. I'm not sure if they are curable once they develop. I think they are prone to coming back. But from what I hear, if you improve the bird's diet and excercise, the bird will lose weight, and that in turn will reduce the deposit, too. If it is fatty liver disease, then I am told giving Milk Thistle supplement can improve the condition. Don't know if that's true, or a wive's tale. With the fatty liver disease, you have to watch out for overgown beak and toenails.

 

Maybe this is why nobody came on here to say their breeding birds get this too. It apparently has nothing to do with egg laying.

 

Ive also been told i can give it some ACV(apple cider vinegar) with mother, on its water and that should help in reducing the size of the fat deposit, she seems okay, jumping back and forth and making good progress, and yes its difficult to find a vet, where i took my bird they claim to be "exotic" pet specialists

[*Nerwen* 0]

it looks similar to the lumps that appeared with my hens that were laying/just finished laying. I don't think you have been told two different things just different ways of stating the issue. A fatty deposit caused by laying eggs and brooding (not moving as much) If you think a bit of weight needs to be shifted off the bird look into giving finch food over budgie mix however only you know your birds and if she is a normal weight then don't worry with a change of seeds.

 

As always keep an eye on her and if she is having trouble moving or standing take her back to the vet.

[The lion 0]

thank you guys for all the information