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First off, im new here and found this forum while searching for a possible answer to what might be wrong with one of my budgies.

English is not my first language so bare with me on that.

 

This is the case:

 

My budgie (Malish) has had loose stool with a big excess of urine for about 2,5 years now. And ive been to the vet with her, taking blood tests but it didnt know anything accept for an unusual high percentage of a white blood cell called Basophil. Our vet is specialised in birds but even she had never seen anything like that, so we couldnt give her any treatment. She´s been feeling quite good over a period, later on, a year ago she was sleeping heaps etc so i was thinking of puting her to sleep. But suddenly she became well again, happy and flying around. A year later she´s worse again, the blood tests showed the same, no infection, the vet says its not diabetes, and the x-ray was normal. She couldnt find anything wrong except for the same large amount of Basophiles.

 

I can see in her eyes she´s not well, on her posture, she´s not very active either, thou she likes to fly still in the room. Our vet and I are trying a last thing, treating her right now for possible air sack mites, and if she´s not better and i dont find another possible cause of her bad health I´ll have to put my baby to sleep. Which i dont want, but might have to.

 

Right now her symptoms are: Excessive urine, heavy breathing, moving her tail up and down, wings are hanging below her tail quite a lot, tired eyes, less active, othen feathers not laying down as they should and sometimes she "bows" with her head after drinking.

 

She´s getting good food, Harrissons pellets, high potency, and veggies and herbs sometimes, and we have a air purifier. I believe she´s a stressed bird overall, she´s scared of us humans. And some of our other budgies are bullying her.

 

Does anyone knows what could be wrong with her? That would help us greatly. When i googled the other day on basophilia, i found a lot of different possible causes, like air sack mites, respiratory desease, stress, inflammation and chlamydia psittacosis. Therefore our vet agreed to treat her now for air sack mites. Im not sure at all that that is what she has... Hate seeing her feeling bad.

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First off, im new here and found this forum while searching for a possible answer to what might be wrong with one of my budgies.

English is not my first language so bare with me on that.

 

This is the case:

 

My budgie (Malish) has had loose stool with a big excess of urine for about 2,5 years now. And ive been to the vet with her, taking blood tests but it didnt know anything accept for an unusual high percentage of a white blood cell called Basophil. Our vet is specialised in birds but even she had never seen anything like that, so we couldnt give her any treatment. She´s been feeling quite good over a period, later on, a year ago she was sleeping heaps etc so i was thinking of puting her to sleep. But suddenly she became well again, happy and flying around. A year later she´s worse again, the blood tests showed the same, no infection, the vet says its not diabetes, and the x-ray was normal. She couldnt find anything wrong except for the same large amount of Basophiles.

 

I can see in her eyes she´s not well, on her posture, she´s not very active either, thou she likes to fly still in the room. Our vet and I are trying a last thing, treating her right now for possible air sack mites, and if she´s not better and i dont find another possible cause of her bad health I´ll have to put my baby to sleep. Which i dont want, but might have to.

 

Right now her symptoms are: Excessive urine, heavy breathing, moving her tail up and down, wings are hanging below her tail quite a lot, tired eyes, less active, othen feathers not laying down as they should and sometimes she "bows" with her head after drinking.

 

She´s getting good food, Harrissons pellets, high potency, and veggies and herbs sometimes, and we have a air purifier. I believe she´s a stressed bird overall, she´s scared of us humans. And some of our other budgies are bullying her.

 

Does anyone knows what could be wrong with her? That would help us greatly. When i googled the other day on basophilia, i found a lot of different possible causes, like air sack mites, respiratory desease, stress, inflammation and chlamydia psittacosis. Therefore our vet agreed to treat her now for air sack mites. Im not sure at all that that is what she has... Hate seeing her feeling bad.

 

I sympathise with you. It can be a hard decision to tell whether their suffering is bad enough to warrant euthanasia. It seems as though you've gone the extra mile with vet care, trying to diagnose this. What medications and treatments has the vet already done? Because even if the vet can't make a firm diagnosis, it seems like they would at least try antibiotics or whatever other medications they have in their arsenal before just giving up and euthanizing.

 

 

 

Also, you don't mention seeds in her diet. I know a lot of people, including vets, think that seeds are bad for birds, and they should be on a pellet only diet. Is that the case here? Because I would suggest that it might just make her a little bit happier if she can have some seeds in her diet. (That's not meant as a cure, just a way of perhaps lowering her stress, and providing nutrients that can only be found in seeds, that pellets cannot duplicate, no matter how carefully formulated they are.)

 

 

:ph34r: ( It is obvious that I fall in the seed camp, not the pellet camp. I think they make an okay supplement, but not a proper mainstay.)

 

 

 

It's not likely that people here can diagnose over the internet what the vet on hand has failed to find. But perhaps someone who has had success with the symptoms you mention can give you some ideas. Good luck, I hope you are able to help your bird.

 

 

Oh, and welcome to the forum. :)

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Does she at all sound like she is mimicking a Squeak toy that dogs play with??

 

here is a Video of mine who did it (The green bird on the swing)

 

http://s640.photobuc...artedmaking.mp4

 

 

 

IF she does this - or even if she doesn't If you haven't already have her Thyroid Checked... I found out after the fact That the Squeaking noise is a HUGE sign of a Thyroid problem. but When I found out it was too late Mine had already died from it. I was on a forum asking because no one else could figure it out. I was told Everything from Upper Respiratory infection, Trichomoniasis, even was told Cochlosoma - But none of those illnesses matched her symptoms or if it did it was just 1 or 2 things But I treated her for it any way I spent a lot of money on medicine and none of it worked. I used Ronivet-S 12%, Baytril, and Doxycycline/Megamix Cocktail . The Squeaking sound actually was the RED FLAG but no one told me to treat her for a Thyroid problem!

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Hi Can I first suggest that you separate the sick bird. Being bullied can be very stressful to a healthy

 

bird but a sick bird should be quarantined in a quiet warm place. You mentioned an air purifier, but

 

not why you need one? I also think the pellet diet is a little rich for a pet bird.Yours B. J.

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First off, im new here and found this forum while searching for a possible answer to what might be wrong with one of my budgies.

English is not my first language so bare with me on that.

 

This is the case:

 

My budgie (Malish) has had loose stool with a big excess of urine for about 2,5 years now. And ive been to the vet with her, taking blood tests but it didnt know anything accept for an unusual high percentage of a white blood cell called Basophil. Our vet is specialised in birds but even she had never seen anything like that, so we couldnt give her any treatment. She´s been feeling quite good over a period, later on, a year ago she was sleeping heaps etc so i was thinking of puting her to sleep. But suddenly she became well again, happy and flying around. A year later she´s worse again, the blood tests showed the same, no infection, the vet says its not diabetes, and the x-ray was normal. She couldnt find anything wrong except for the same large amount of Basophiles.

 

I can see in her eyes she´s not well, on her posture, she´s not very active either, thou she likes to fly still in the room. Our vet and I are trying a last thing, treating her right now for possible air sack mites, and if she´s not better and i dont find another possible cause of her bad health I´ll have to put my baby to sleep. Which i dont want, but might have to.

 

Right now her symptoms are: Excessive urine, heavy breathing, moving her tail up and down, wings are hanging below her tail quite a lot, tired eyes, less active, othen feathers not laying down as they should and sometimes she "bows" with her head after drinking.

 

She´s getting good food, Harrissons pellets, high potency, and veggies and herbs sometimes, and we have a air purifier. I believe she´s a stressed bird overall, she´s scared of us humans. And some of our other budgies are bullying her.

 

Does anyone knows what could be wrong with her? That would help us greatly. When i googled the other day on basophilia, i found a lot of different possible causes, like air sack mites, respiratory desease, stress, inflammation and chlamydia psittacosis. Therefore our vet agreed to treat her now for air sack mites. Im not sure at all that that is what she has... Hate seeing her feeling bad.

 

I sympathise with you. It can be a hard decision to tell whether their suffering is bad enough to warrant euthanasia. It seems as though you've gone the extra mile with vet care, trying to diagnose this. What medications and treatments has the vet already done? Because even if the vet can't make a firm diagnosis, it seems like they would at least try antibiotics or whatever other medications they have in their arsenal before just giving up and euthanizing.

 

 

 

Also, you don't mention seeds in her diet. I know a lot of people, including vets, think that seeds are bad for birds, and they should be on a pellet only diet. Is that the case here? Because I would suggest that it might just make her a little bit happier if she can have some seeds in her diet. (That's not meant as a cure, just a way of perhaps lowering her stress, and providing nutrients that can only be found in seeds, that pellets cannot duplicate, no matter how carefully formulated they are.)

 

 

:ph34r: ( It is obvious that I fall in the seed camp, not the pellet camp. I think they make an okay supplement, but not a proper mainstay.)

 

 

 

It's not likely that people here can diagnose over the internet what the vet on hand has failed to find. But perhaps someone who has had success with the symptoms you mention can give you some ideas. Good luck, I hope you are able to help your bird.

 

 

Oh, and welcome to the forum. :)

 

Cheers. She is eating pellets because she was feeling worse when on a seed diet. Pellets made her feel much better a year ago, but are not helping now. I give her a bit of seed at times, and millet, to make her feel better at least psychologically.

 

The vet has tried a number of things. One medicin we had earlier is Mycostatin, i cant remember what the medicin does. Then also tried a medicin starting on M... that should releave pain. (just in case).

She has gotten antibiotics too when it all started, cause my other birds had an infection, and i treated them all together. At that time i had gotten a new bird and started to take grass and grass seeds from outside for the first time, and she became sick at that time, almost 3 years ago.

 

Does she at all sound like she is mimicking a Squeak toy that dogs play with??

 

here is a Video of mine who did it (The green bird on the swing)

 

http://s640.photobuc...artedmaking.mp4

 

 

 

IF she does this - or even if she doesn't If you haven't already have her Thyroid Checked... I found out after the fact That the Squeaking noise is a HUGE sign of a Thyroid problem. but When I found out it was too late Mine had already died from it. I was on a forum asking because no one else could figure it out. I was told Everything from Upper Respiratory infection, Trichomoniasis, even was told Cochlosoma - But none of those illnesses matched her symptoms or if it did it was just 1 or 2 things But I treated her for it any way I spent a lot of money on medicine and none of it worked. I used Ronivet-S 12%, Baytril, and Doxycycline/Megamix Cocktail . The Squeaking sound actually was the RED FLAG but no one told me to treat her for a Thyroid problem!

 

Wow, poor budgie on the video. No Malish doesnt have any sounds like that. She sounds quite normal. We are going to give her another dose of her treatment tomorrow at the vet, but im not too hopeful now. if it doesnt help i have to think of her and put her to sleep. Which is devastating, but i believe she´s suffering. And Ive done almost everything i can to help her. I can look it up on the net, Thyroid problem and symptoms. Her cere is switching between brown and light blue.

 

Hi Can I first suggest that you separate the sick bird. Being bullied can be very stressful to a healthy

 

bird but a sick bird should be quarantined in a quiet warm place. You mentioned an air purifier, but

 

not why you need one? I also think the pellet diet is a little rich for a pet bird.Yours B. J.

 

She has been in her own cage with a budgie friend. so ive tried to make it less stressful for her. She has a warm lamp under which she often sits. And im giving her access to the toys she love, everything to make her last weeks more happy. I let her fly too, she seems to enjoy that.

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The video is from 1,5 year ago, when she was bad. She sits similar to this.

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9704/20101101181832.mp4

 

 

 

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Does the vet know she'd eaten grass and seed from outside? Since that is when it all started I'm betting that is what caused it could of been grass with pesticide sprayed on it or if you gave dirt and all the dirt could of made her sick dirt grows bacteria - most people who feed grasses and seed with dirt use an organic type dirt supposed to be better/safer

 

I hope she gets better. But if not even though its hard to do putting her to sleep would most likely be the best course of action. We've had to put dogs down and no its not easy but In the end after it's over and you've had time to calm down and your brain to focus again You do start realizing it was the right thing to do ,which helps make you feel better :)

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Does the vet know she'd eaten grass and seed from outside? Since that is when it all started I'm betting that is what caused it could of been grass with pesticide sprayed on it or if you gave dirt and all the dirt could of made her sick dirt grows bacteria - most people who feed grasses and seed with dirt use an organic type dirt supposed to be better/safer

 

 

 

 

Pesticide woulod kill not just make a bird sick on an ongoing basis.

 

Re the grass from outside and dirt thing.......my birds get seeding grasses picked WITH DIRT ( not organic ) and they relish the roots and dirt more than the top half most of the time.

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Sometimes people can overthink the simplest of things and make a birds life and food so flippin sterile and OVERSAFE.

What do you think birds in the wild get ? They dont go cruising around looking for organic farms before they start eating.

 

ps I am not a pellets believing person.

 

Pellets could be made up of any kind of rubbish for all we know.........could be the scrapings of a grainery floor....you wouldnt know.

By the time its cooked up to a mush, destroying any natural vitamins and minerals, then have them added back in artifically as well as **** to preserve it you end up with a product that ISNT NATURAL, can't be found in the wild, and can also be very suspect as far as contributing to a birds state of health or not...............at the end of all that you have lost me as a pellets customer.

Read this http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index.php?showtopic=29493

 

AND THIS http://forums.budgie...showtopic=18890

 

and be a little more informed than the blurb vets and others give you over pellets versus seeds.

 

I am a firm believer in the fact vets use the pellet argument as a kneejerk reaction to pet birds kept on a seed only diet ( not added vegies or extras ) and kept in small confined spaces so both bad diet and lack of exercise contribute to severe issues including overweight...........hence the mass push for pelleted diets.

 

NOW I do hope your pretty budgie gets better, but please try the KISS method........KISS means "keep it simple stupid " ........just an aussie saying but essentially means keep things simple and dont get tied up in knots over pellets, packeted diet foods etc. Plain good brand seed with extras, meds where needed only.

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First off, im new here and found this forum while searching for a possible answer to what might be wrong with one of my budgies.

English is not my first language so bare with me on that.

 

This is the case:

 

My budgie (Malish) has had loose stool with a big excess of urine for about 2,5 years now. And ive been to the vet with her, taking blood tests but it didnt know anything accept for an unusual high percentage of a white blood cell called Basophil. Our vet is specialised in birds but even she had never seen anything like that, so we couldnt give her any treatment. She´s been feeling quite good over a period, later on, a year ago she was sleeping heaps etc so i was thinking of puting her to sleep. But suddenly she became well again, happy and flying around. A year later she´s worse again, the blood tests showed the same, no infection, the vet says its not diabetes, and the x-ray was normal. She couldnt find anything wrong except for the same large amount of Basophiles.

 

I can see in her eyes she´s not well, on her posture, she´s not very active either, thou she likes to fly still in the room. Our vet and I are trying a last thing, treating her right now for possible air sack mites, and if she´s not better and i dont find another possible cause of her bad health I´ll have to put my baby to sleep. Which i dont want, but might have to.

 

Right now her symptoms are: Excessive urine, heavy breathing, moving her tail up and down, wings are hanging below her tail quite a lot, tired eyes, less active, othen feathers not laying down as they should and sometimes she "bows" with her head after drinking.

 

She´s getting good food, Harrissons pellets, high potency, and veggies and herbs sometimes, and we have a air purifier. I believe she´s a stressed bird overall, she´s scared of us humans. And some of our other budgies are bullying her.

 

Does anyone knows what could be wrong with her? That would help us greatly. When i googled the other day on basophilia, i found a lot of different possible causes, like air sack mites, respiratory desease, stress, inflammation and chlamydia psittacosis. Therefore our vet agreed to treat her now for air sack mites. Im not sure at all that that is what she has... Hate seeing her feeling bad.

 

I sympathise with you. It can be a hard decision to tell whether their suffering is bad enough to warrant euthanasia. It seems as though you've gone the extra mile with vet care, trying to diagnose this. What medications and treatments has the vet already done? Because even if the vet can't make a firm diagnosis, it seems like they would at least try antibiotics or whatever other medications they have in their arsenal before just giving up and euthanizing.

 

 

 

Also, you don't mention seeds in her diet. I know a lot of people, including vets, think that seeds are bad for birds, and they should be on a pellet only diet. Is that the case here? Because I would suggest that it might just make her a little bit happier if she can have some seeds in her diet. (That's not meant as a cure, just a way of perhaps lowering her stress, and providing nutrients that can only be found in seeds, that pellets cannot duplicate, no matter how carefully formulated they are.)

 

 

:ph34r: ( It is obvious that I fall in the seed camp, not the pellet camp. I think they make an okay supplement, but not a proper mainstay.)

 

 

 

It's not likely that people here can diagnose over the internet what the vet on hand has failed to find. But perhaps someone who has had success with the symptoms you mention can give you some ideas. Good luck, I hope you are able to help your bird.

 

 

Oh, and welcome to the forum. :)

 

Cheers. She is eating pellets because she was feeling worse when on a seed diet. Pellets made her feel much better a year ago, but are not helping now. I give her a bit of seed at times, and millet, to make her feel better at least psychologically.

 

The vet has tried a number of things. One medicin we had earlier is Mycostatin, i cant remember what the medicin does. Then also tried a medicin starting on M... that should releave pain. (just in case).

She has gotten antibiotics too when it all started, cause my other birds had an infection, and i treated them all together. At that time i had gotten a new bird and started to take grass and grass seeds from outside for the first time, and she became sick at that time, almost 3 years ago.

 

Does she at all sound like she is mimicking a Squeak toy that dogs play with??

 

here is a Video of mine who did it (The green bird on the swing)

 

http://s640.photobuc...artedmaking.mp4

 

 

 

IF she does this - or even if she doesn't If you haven't already have her Thyroid Checked... I found out after the fact That the Squeaking noise is a HUGE sign of a Thyroid problem. but When I found out it was too late Mine had already died from it. I was on a forum asking because no one else could figure it out. I was told Everything from Upper Respiratory infection, Trichomoniasis, even was told Cochlosoma - But none of those illnesses matched her symptoms or if it did it was just 1 or 2 things But I treated her for it any way I spent a lot of money on medicine and none of it worked. I used Ronivet-S 12%, Baytril, and Doxycycline/Megamix Cocktail . The Squeaking sound actually was the RED FLAG but no one told me to treat her for a Thyroid problem!

 

Wow, poor budgie on the video. No Malish doesnt have any sounds like that. She sounds quite normal. We are going to give her another dose of her treatment tomorrow at the vet, but im not too hopeful now. if it doesnt help i have to think of her and put her to sleep. Which is devastating, but i believe she´s suffering. And Ive done almost everything i can to help her. I can look it up on the net, Thyroid problem and symptoms. Her cere is switching between brown and light blue.

 

Hi Can I first suggest that you separate the sick bird. Being bullied can be very stressful to a healthy

 

bird but a sick bird should be quarantined in a quiet warm place. You mentioned an air purifier, but

 

not why you need one? I also think the pellet diet is a little rich for a pet bird.Yours B. J.

 

She has been in her own cage with a budgie friend. so ive tried to make it less stressful for her. She has a warm lamp under which she often sits. And im giving her access to the toys she love, everything to make her last weeks more happy. I let her fly too, she seems to enjoy that.

 

Well, I feel real bad for you, Zingo. It sounds like you've spent years trying everything you could to help her.

 

You may be right about it's being time to let her go. If you do end up putting her to sleep, you can comfort yourself with the knowledge that you did all you could to try to help her, and that when all of that did not work, you ended her suffering instead of just keeping her hanging on without hope.

 

 

 

 

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Some people need to learn how to Word things a little better, making it sound like anything any one else says is dead wrong even if its just a suggestion and they're the only one who is right

 

and no a bird wouldn't die over years from Eating grass/dirt a couple of times or even once. But it seems odd that the bird was fine and healthy BEFORE eating the grass/dirt so I was giving a SUGGESTION I never said I was a vet and that was the problem!

 

when birds are in a cage that is made of toxic metal It can take YEARS to even show signs of metal toxicity

 

and no vet ever told me to use pellets, I chose to use pellets after a ton of research my birds are 100xs healthier, Their feathers are 100xs brighter and more vibrant and they're over all better looking After I get them and switch them to pellets than they were before I got them when they ate basically nothing but seeds and maybe some nasty over the counter supplements put in their water. I hate putting anything in their water it really does no good since they do not drink enough water to even get the proper dose of medicine or vitamin or what ever is put in the water.

 

and Like I've stated a few times What works for one person may not work for another. I've said my way may not work for others but it works perfectly fine for my birds. and my birds eat everything I give them and I'm against Seeds being the Main staple of a birds diet, but I don't go downgrading people who feed mainly seed

 

my birds thrive on their diet of Pellets as the main course, a little bit of seeds, lots of veggies, cooked foods, and greens.

 

and I know a lot of bird owners who's came close to putting their birds down because they were so ill the vet couldn't figure out what was wrong with them. as a last resort before putting the bird to sleep the vet decided to have them switch from a seed diet to a pellet diet and the bird didn't need to be put to sleep after the switch because It got better. and they'd tried several brands of seeds so it wasn't they were feeding bad seeds. The bird needed something more than just seeds, veggies and greens

 

there is no "perfect" diet but the best diet that can be given is one of variety plus any vitamin/mineral seeds have is in the husks and birds don't eat that part of the seed anyway so what good would feeding them just seeds and then adding vitamin and minerals to their water when they won't get the proper dose that way either.

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Some people need to learn how to Word things a little better, making it sound like anything any one else says is dead wrong even if its just a suggestion and they're the only one who is right

 

and no a bird wouldn't die over years from Eating grass/dirt a couple of times or even once. But it seems odd that the bird was fine and healthy BEFORE eating the grass/dirt so I was giving a SUGGESTION I never said I was a vet and that was the problem!

 

when birds are in a cage that is made of toxic metal It can take YEARS to even show signs of metal toxicity

 

and no vet ever told me to use pellets, I chose to use pellets after a ton of research my birds are 100xs healthier, Their feathers are 100xs brighter and more vibrant and they're over all better looking After I get them and switch them to pellets than they were before I got them when they ate basically nothing but seeds and maybe some nasty over the counter supplements put in their water. I hate putting anything in their water it really does no good since they do not drink enough water to even get the proper dose of medicine or vitamin or what ever is put in the water.

 

and Like I've stated a few times What works for one person may not work for another. I've said my way may not work for others but it works perfectly fine for my birds. and my birds eat everything I give them and I'm against Seeds being the Main staple of a birds diet, but I don't go downgrading people who feed mainly seed

 

my birds thrive on their diet of Pellets as the main course, a little bit of seeds, lots of veggies, cooked foods, and greens.

 

and I know a lot of bird owners who's came close to putting their birds down because they were so ill the vet couldn't figure out what was wrong with them. as a last resort before putting the bird to sleep the vet decided to have them switch from a seed diet to a pellet diet and the bird didn't need to be put to sleep after the switch because It got better. and they'd tried several brands of seeds so it wasn't they were feeding bad seeds. The bird needed something more than just seeds, veggies and greens

 

there is no "perfect" diet but the best diet that can be given is one of variety plus any vitamin/mineral seeds have is in the husks and birds don't eat that part of the seed anyway so what good would feeding them just seeds and then adding vitamin and minerals to their water when they won't get the proper dose that way either.

 

 

well well hello knm

id just like to say WELCOME BACK

then id like to say

if birds are medicated correctly through their water they DO get the right dose ...

i personally dont care what people feed seeds or pellets however you dont find pellet grass in wild do you ?

i wondered what made you get high and mighty seems you do that alot on this forum ...one minit you know everything ,

next your asking everyone something so basic its contradicting to the fact you try make everyone believe you know everything ...(but your not a vet you did state that so im glad you pointed that out )

 

just want to get back to whom evers post this is

k n m did bring up a good point

SOUNDS LIKE HEAVY METAL POISONING ...( good on knm :) )

id get your vet to teast bloods for it

cheers gb

i say if shes lasted this long

let her die her way

dont put her down unless shes in total pain and discomfit

can you get picture your bird and her cage please :)

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It is not metal poisoning, we know that.

there is no bare metal in her cage or any of the other cages we use at the moment for our birds and there is no dangerous metal in any of the toys, we are very careful about that..

Also she dont have any symptoms that points to metal poisoning.

We did have a cage a few years ago that might not have been good, but when we discovered that another of our birds liked to lick at the metal we got a new cage, and we have changed to a bigger cage after that so the current cages are good. and has been for the last 2 years, maybe more.

 

We have basically tried everything from antibiotics, changing diets, air purifiers, air moisteners (we have dry air in scandinavia in the winter), treatening against parasites, medicaction against fungus , contacting other avian vets and as you know, asking on foreign (and domestic) forums if ANYONE has any clue to what it MIGHT be.. but, no luck.

so, we dont know what to do now.

 

The only improvements we have seen has been temporary.

 

Yesterday and today she has again seemed a bit better.

We hope it will last.

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An update.. in January we tried a medicine called Stronghold on her, its the same type as ivermectin (if thats spellt wright) in case she had some internal parasites. At the same time we reduced her stress by putting her in her own cage with a very kind budgie that wasnt bothering her. After a few doses she became like a new budgie, it was a joy to see. I didnt know she could be that fast in her movements, flys, curious and playful. She seemed to enjoy life a lot. In march she started moulting thou and that positive change dissapeared. :(

Once again we have started on Stronhold, giving to the back of her neck every second week. So far no change for the better. I have to face a difficult decision if she wont get better. Her diagnos is still unclear.

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Does she get Iodine Zingo? IF it was thyroid problem that may help. If her cere is changing, not into breeding condition, it could help,( using aqueous iodine 7 drops a litre water ).

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