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Can anyone tell me why the body coloring is found only at the tip of the feathers on the back of this budgie. The feathers seems to be half yellow and half green.

 

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Here she a bit older.

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It is a spangle and this is quite typical in Spangles.

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Those spangle markings seem to be showing the pattern of a dominant pied spangle.....so what were the parents ?

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Those spangle markings seem to be showing the pattern of a dominant pied spangle.....so what were the parents ?

 

okay, the half colored feathers are due to spangle factor.

 

Here are the parents

 

Mother: Normal Cobalt

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Father: Dark green violet spangle graywing possibly combination of Australian and Dutch dominant pied

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The second photo of the father looks double factor spangle to me with bad suffusion, that would explain the spangle. and he is probably masking Dom pied too because the baby looks dom pied and spangle like Kaz said.

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The second photo of the father looks double factor spangle to me with bad suffusion, that would explain the spangle. and he is probably masking Dom pied too because the baby looks dom pied and spangle like Kaz said.

 

The pictures are bad, because all the light gray markings wont't show up, also the flash lightens the body color on the back so much that he looks like totally yellow, but he isn't. He cannot be DF spangle, because he has got babies with normal markings, too. However, he is some kind of double factor dominant pied, because all the babies he has had, have been pieds, some similar to Dutch pieds and some to Australian dominant pieds.

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The important thing to do when asking for id for birds is to NOT USE THE FLASH ON THE CAMERA :D :D :D

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The father is double factor Spangle masking D Pied as Splat said. If he would have been a DF D pied then the offspring should have not been spangle, since spangle is dominant and birds can not carry them in split form.

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The father is double factor Spangle masking D Pied as Splat said. If he would have been a DF D pied then the offspring should have not been spangle, since spangle is dominant and birds can not carry them in split form.

 

You are saying spangle is dominant over dominant pied? Spangle and dominant pied can't co-exist on double factor form in one bird? That would mean they would locate on the same gene locus and would be allelic to each other, i.e they would be mutations from the same gene.

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But he can't be a DF Spangle if he has produced normal babies.

 

From my understanding, a DF Spangle to Normal pairing produces 100% Spangles......doesn't it?

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But he can't be a DF Spangle if he has produced normal babies.

 

From my understanding, a DF Spangle to Normal pairing produces 100% Spangles......doesn't it?

 

 

Yes........also a df spangle will have a blue cere.

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But he can't be a DF Spangle if he has produced normal babies.

 

From my understanding, a DF Spangle to Normal pairing produces 100% Spangles......doesn't it?

 

Yes........also a df spangle will have a blue cere.

 

Good Point! :P

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But he can't be a DF Spangle if he has produced normal babies.

 

From my understanding, a DF Spangle to Normal pairing produces 100% Spangles......doesn't it?

 

 

Yes........also a df spangle will have a blue cere.

 

 

KAZ - Can we get spangle chicks from DF Dpied to Normal Pairing?

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Are these the only bird possible to be the parents.

can we see a picture of the chicks (normal and spangle)

 

kaz - if the pied genr is in the mix couldn't the cere be affected??

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Are these the only bird possible to be the parents.

can we see a picture of the chicks (normal and spangle)

 

kaz - if the pied genr is in the mix couldn't the cere be affected??

 

Yes, these are the only possible parents, since it took some time for them to start breeding in the breeding cage.

Here are all the chicks they've got.

I think the mother is split to recessive pied, and that makes some of the Dutch pieds more pied.

The mother is also split to graywig.

 

If you click the text "Katso kuvia" below pictures, you'll find more pictures.

 

I found a new picture of the father with his son. There you can see the green coloring on the back.

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