NOWBUDGIE 0 Posted July 30, 2011 Member ID: 4,894 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 129 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,110 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/12/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 15, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Hey, Put some birds down today....Finally!! Lets hope i have better luck than last year with only 4 chicks ,,,,,,,,,, also will like thoughts or what to expect on some pairs Pair 1 Albino hen + TCB grey cock/ino Pair 2 opaline Cin pied hen green/blue + spangle pied sky cock Pair 3 TCB Olive hen + Normal blue cock Pair 4 Normal blue hen + Normal green cin cock Pair 5 Res pied grey hen + opaline blue cock Pair 6 Grey green cin normal hen + green dom pied cock Link to comment
Taylor 0 Posted July 30, 2011 Member ID: 6,360 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 341 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,030 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/11/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 27, 2011 Birthday: 14/05/1998 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Sounds good like good pairs What does TCB mean Link to comment
NOWBUDGIE 0 Posted July 30, 2011 Member ID: 4,894 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 129 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,110 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/12/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2011 thanks TCB = Texas clear bodies Link to comment
Pride 0 Posted July 30, 2011 Member ID: 6,337 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 507 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,360 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 22/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 12, 2012 Birthday: 22/09/1995 Share Posted July 30, 2011 What do they look like. Link to comment
Taylor 0 Posted July 30, 2011 Member ID: 6,360 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 341 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,030 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/11/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 27, 2011 Birthday: 14/05/1998 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Thanks Link to comment
NOWBUDGIE 0 Posted August 9, 2011 Member ID: 4,894 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 129 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,110 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/12/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 9, 2011 Hi Pride... I found this post on TCB and pictures for you to see what they look like if u havent already http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index.php?showtopic=16973 Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted August 9, 2011 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Share Posted August 9, 2011 You have some very interesting pairs. What do hope to get out of each pairing? Link to comment
Pride 0 Posted August 9, 2011 Member ID: 6,337 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 507 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,360 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 22/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 12, 2012 Birthday: 22/09/1995 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Thanks nowbudgie they look quite interesting. Link to comment
NOWBUDGIE 0 Posted August 10, 2011 Member ID: 4,894 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 129 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,110 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/12/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2011 Yeah they are interesting Pride Daz... which you think are interesting just curious??? No real BIG plan, just enjoy show types and dont plan on breeding for show or anything, thats some years away still to consider... also have some down to use as fosters.... for my hopefully pairs ...being pairs 1 2 3. Pair 1 Albino hen + TCB grey cock/ino Hoping to get TCB hens will be 25% and put with possible split cock from pair 3.... Pair 2 opaline Cin pied hen green/blue + spangle pied sky cock cock has big head / feathers but lacks body, so using my best solid hen Pair 3 TCB Olive hen + Normal blue cock trying to get split TCB cocks with good size to use back to pair 1 hens??? (this hen is daughter to TCB cock pair 1) have 2 eggs so far Link to comment
Pride 0 Posted August 10, 2011 Member ID: 6,337 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 507 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,360 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 22/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 12, 2012 Birthday: 22/09/1995 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Looks like some solid pairs NB, should be good to see the outcome. Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted August 10, 2011 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Pair 1 Albino hen + TCB grey cock/ino Hoping to get TCB hens will be 25% and put with possible split cock from pair 3.... Outcome should be: 25% Clearbody/Ino cocks 25% Ino cocks 25% Clearbody hens 25% Ino hens As the Albino Hen is carrying Blue and Ino (lutino) and the Cock is carrying Blue to show Grey you should get Blues and Greys from the pairing. You should also get Lutinos and Albinos from this pairing as well. You will also get green series too. The ino gene will lighten the body and the flights from the Cock bird. ..................................................................................................... Pair 2 opaline Cin pied hen green/blue + spangle pied sky cock cock has big head / feathers but lacks body, so using my best solid hen You should get a variety from this pairing. If the cock is not split to sexlinked (which i doubt) all the hens will be normal, spangles, dominant pieds (sf), dominant pied (df) and Dominant pied Spangles. They will also be Sky blue or split blue. Cocks will be normal, spangles, dominant pieds (sf), dominant pied (df) and Dominant Pied Spangles all split Opaline and cinnamon and if not blue will be split blue. ........................................................................................................................................ Pair 3 TCB Olive hen + Normal blue cock trying to get split TCB cocks with good size to use back to pair 1 hens??? (this hen is daughter to TCB cock pair 1) have 2 eggs so far Out come 50% Normal/Clearbody cocks 50% Normal hens But the colouring is interesting. Because the hen is carrying two dark factors you can expect. Dark greens split blue. If she is split blue you should also get cobalts. Link to comment
Pride 0 Posted August 10, 2011 Member ID: 6,337 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 507 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,360 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 22/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 12, 2012 Birthday: 22/09/1995 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Wow daz you are so knowledgable, looks like some good results NB. Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted August 10, 2011 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I started with many books. I found this one very good. You can get it at pet stores. Link to comment
Pride 0 Posted August 10, 2011 Member ID: 6,337 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 507 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,360 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 22/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 12, 2012 Birthday: 22/09/1995 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I might do that DAZ. my birthday is coming soon so hopefully i can get this, the challenge and rob marshalls one. Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted August 11, 2011 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Just remember that Information is power. Understanding through knowledge give you the power to make informed decissions. Link to comment
Pride 0 Posted August 11, 2011 Member ID: 6,337 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 507 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,360 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 22/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 12, 2012 Birthday: 22/09/1995 Share Posted August 11, 2011 i know i want as much information as possible. Link to comment
NOWBUDGIE 0 Posted August 11, 2011 Member ID: 4,894 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 129 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,110 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/12/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 Thanks Daz for you great info.... helps alot.... Pair 1 Albino hen + TCB grey cock/ino Outcome should be: 25% Clearbody/Ino cocks 25% Ino cocks 25% Clearbody hens 25% Ino hens As the Albino Hen is carrying Blue and Ino (lutino) and the Cock is carrying Blue to show Grey you should get Blues and Greys from the pairing. You should also get Lutinos and Albinos from this pairing as well. You will also get green series too. The ino gene will lighten the body and the flights from the Cock bird. WOW could I get blue series TCB with this pairing didnt know that..... the grey cock TCB is split ino ..................................................................................................... Pair 2 opaline Cin pied hen green/blue + spangle pied sky cock cock has big head / feathers but lacks body, so using my best solid hen You should get a variety from this pairing. If the cock is not split to sexlinked (which i doubt) all the hens will be normal, spangles, dominant pieds (sf), dominant pied (df) and Dominant pied Spangles. the cock is split cinnamon I know and Hen is split blue They will also be Sky blue or split blue. Cocks will be normal, spangles, dominant pieds (sf), dominant pied (df) and Dominant Pied Spangles all split Opaline and cinnamon and if not blue will be split blue. Big hopes here but pairing is not working out hen hates cock, been almost 2 weeks now...give another few days and will need to change?? ........................................................................................................................................ Pair 3 TCB Olive hen + Normal blue cock trying to get split TCB cocks with good size to use back to pair 1 hens??? (this hen is daughter to TCB cock pair 1) have 2 eggs so far Out come 50% Normal/Clearbody cocks 50% Normal hens But the colouring is interesting. Because the hen is carrying two dark factors you can expect. Dark greens split blue. If she is split blue you should also get cobalts. Cobalts would be awesome.... Link to comment
Squeak_Crumble 0 Posted August 11, 2011 Member ID: 5,236 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 71 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,025 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,515 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2013 Birthday: 11/06/1997 Share Posted August 11, 2011 just be wary with your last pair you will be breeding the colour into the clearbody, which is against the show standard should you ever wish to show. Link to comment
NOWBUDGIE 0 Posted August 11, 2011 Member ID: 4,894 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 129 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,110 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/12/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 Daz I answered within the "quote on previous post!!! dont have this down pat!! just be wary with your last pair you will be breeding the colour into the clearbody, which is against the show standard should you ever wish to show. Dont clearbodies come in various colours anyway.... or just allowed SF Link to comment
Squeak_Crumble 0 Posted August 11, 2011 Member ID: 5,236 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 71 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,025 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,515 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2013 Birthday: 11/06/1997 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Daz I answered within the "quote on previous post!!! dont have this down pat!! just be wary with your last pair you will be breeding the colour into the clearbody, which is against the show standard should you ever wish to show. Dont clearbodies come in various colours anyway.... or just allowed SF I meant the colour in the body, not the literal colour ie sky blue. You will be putting suffusion back into the bird. Link to comment
Daz 0 Posted August 11, 2011 Member ID: 4,838 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 247 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,882 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 36,650 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/11/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2022 Birthday: 02/02/1964 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) CLEARBODY: MASK AND SPOTS: The mask is to be clear,wide and deep, (not cleft) extending beyond two large cheek patches ornamentedby six evenly spaced, large, round black throat spots, the outer two beingpartially covered by the base of the cheek patches. GENERAL BODY COLOUR: Yellow (Buttercup) orWhite, masking a standard colour that may show as a faint minimal suffusion inthe body and with more intensity over the rump and flank. MARKINGS: On cheeks, back of head, neck andwings - black clearly defined and symmetrical on the appropriate ground colour. EYES: Black with a white iris ring. PRIMARY FLIGHTS: Neutral to Pale Grey(Grizzling is acceptable). FEET & LEGS:Blue/Grey mottled or Pink. Colour Cheek Patch Yellow (Buttercup)& White - Violet/Grey. Tail Quill Yellow (Buttercup)& White - Black Tail Feather Yellow (Buttercup)& White - Dark Blue - Black CLEARBODY GROUP: This includes Opaline (without anycombinations) combined with Clearbody. The standard for these birds is as for Clearbody modified by therequirements for the Opaline (without any combinations) variety. NOTE 1: BodyColour suffusion (minimal) should increase in depth of shade progressively fromthe upper breast to the rump area. NOTE 2: The Clearbody Opaline (without anycombinations) may be more likely to be Buttercup Yellow(green series) or White (blue series) but they should not be given preferenceover other standard Clearbodies (non Opaline) because of this. Grey factor birds will further modify thebody colour. In the combination ofthese two varieties, suffusion on the back and rump is as per the General BodyColour description of the Clearbody. Edited August 11, 2011 by Daz Link to comment
Pride 0 Posted August 12, 2011 Member ID: 6,337 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 507 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,360 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 22/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 12, 2012 Birthday: 22/09/1995 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I was reading one of my older topics that had pics of my budgies and someone said i had a TCB yf which i didnt know what it meant till now, turns out i have had one with out knowing Link to comment
BBCI 0 Posted August 13, 2011 Member ID: 6,854 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 24 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 160 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/08/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Your Lucky, i am new to breeding, and bred a pair, but no eggs were fertile? Since i like breeding, i am going to buy, another 6 pairs, and breed maybe, at the end of 2011, or ealy 2012. Link to comment
Pride 0 Posted August 13, 2011 Member ID: 6,337 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 507 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,360 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 22/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 12, 2012 Birthday: 22/09/1995 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Good on you BBCl Link to comment
NOWBUDGIE 0 Posted August 13, 2011 Member ID: 4,894 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 129 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,110 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/12/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2011 Thanks again Daz for you detailed info, helps alot.. UPDATE: Pair 2 opaline Cin pied hen green/blue + spangle pied sky cock No bonding at attacking the cock, she layed an egg but destroyed it... def not fertile as not bonding at all.... I have now seperated them, and notice the hen is Pulling off her chest feathers...seems she is stressed, should I not try her again so soon.... Went to a breeder today got new cobalt cock also to pair with her later on.. I think also it was the cage she was in, had her in a wire cage and last time breed well in cabinet cage... I noticed her lil unsettled in that cage...was it the cock?? cage?? or doesnt want to breed... seems well in condition and was showing good sign also in flight cage!! Pair 1 Albino hen + TCB grey cock/ino on 2 eggs 2nd layed 12th Pair 3 TCB Olive hen + Normal blue cock on 3 eggs no fertile as yet...some to early Pair 4 Normal blue hen + Normal green cin cock on 3 eggs Pair 5 Res pied grey hen + opaline blue cock on 4 eggs 2 showing fertile so far Link to comment
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