moglet 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 6,633 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 165 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,080 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/03/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 3, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Possum looks grey to me, but then when I look at other's images of grey birds I see she isn't. I'm a Graphic Designer and I would have called her a Cool Grey rather than a Warm Grey like the proper grey birds look. Around her tail is very dark definitely grey tone, and when I'm allowed a closer look I see she has very feint purpley blue tinge underneath her tail area but it is not prominent at all. I am still a bit confused between the difference between the whole Mauve/Violet/Grey classification idea. This is Possum (she's a bit of a fatty at the moment). Link to comment
Matt G 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 6,385 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 20 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 130 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/11/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 What colour are the tail feathers? Dark blue or black? Link to comment
stace 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 6,349 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 222 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,340 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 12, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2011 She's a Pantone 429 C! Link to comment
Neville 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 4,610 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 714 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,640 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/08/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 15, 2015 Birthday: 09/12/1940 Share Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) A mauve will usually have violet cheek patches and a dark blue tail A grey has either blue or grey cheek patches and a black tail. There can be a lot of variation in the shade of grey between birds. If a bird is both violet & grey the shade of the cheek patches and the tail can be effected making identification difficult Edited April 5, 2011 by Neville Link to comment
Matt G 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 6,385 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 20 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 130 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/11/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 If a bird is both violet & grey the shade of the cheek patches and the tail can be effected making identification difficult Neville, what is a bird is both violet and mauve? Is that equally as hard to tell from violet and grey? Link to comment
moglet 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 6,633 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 165 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,080 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/03/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 Hmmm. Her tail is white mostly. She has a white patch on her rump starting in the smaller feathers then just about all of the long tail feathers are white. I think just a few shorter tail feathers underneath are sort of not quite black more a deep grey. But not many. The rest of her tail is just white. All her long wing feathers are white too. The feathers around her vent are kind of mauvey tinged light blue, tinging to quite an irridescenty blue/mauve/purpley colour right at the very end of her body feathers behind the vent. The dots on her face are black, the cheek patches are deep blue. Sorry about my tragic bird description... She is really pretty and I am quite interested to know what she is and why. She has paired up with Whizzbang (T2 yellowface cobalt something.... (I'll look it up again!) I hope they will have gorgeous babies in spring when she is older. This is so interesting. Thank you. YAY!! Some one knows what planet I am on at least!!! She's a Pantone 429 C! Link to comment
*Nerwen* 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 5,064 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,817 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,375 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2014 Birthday: 20/02/1982 Share Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) using the WBO colour guide. (http://bestofbreeds....colourguide.htm) it appears that mauve matches her colouring. the coloured lines are: Cobalt Mauve Grey Violet Edited April 5, 2011 by *Nerwen* Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Hmmm. Her tail is white mostly. Normal for a pied Link to comment
moglet 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 6,633 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 165 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,080 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/03/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 Way cool!! How does the colour chart thing work? Is that a standard breeder thing?? using the WBO colour guide. (http://bestofbreeds....colourguide.htm) it appears that mauve matches her colouring. the coloured lines are: Cobalt Mauve Grey Violet Link to comment
Matt G 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 6,385 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 20 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 130 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/11/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Mauve for the win! Link to comment
Neville 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 4,610 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 714 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,640 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/08/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 15, 2015 Birthday: 09/12/1940 Share Posted April 5, 2011 If a bird is both violet & grey the shade of the cheek patches and the tail can be effected making identification difficult Neville, what is a bird is both violet and mauve? Is that equally as hard to tell from violet and grey? Grey and violet are both colour adding factors so the birds will always have an underlying shade of blue. Your birds cheek patches are not the right shade for a bird that is just mauve but they are a deeper blue than is usual for a grey. This could mean that she is a violet grey or she could be just a grey with brighter than usual cheek patches Link to comment
Matt G 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 6,385 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 20 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 130 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/11/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 It's all too hard.. I need a panadol. Link to comment
moglet 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 6,633 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 165 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,080 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/03/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 A bex and a good lie down! Link to comment
stace 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 6,349 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 222 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,340 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 12, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2011 There you go Moglet. Looking at the Budgie Colour Chart Nerwen supplied, they do use Pantone colours as a guide. The Pantone colours just get renamed as official Budgie colours. Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) try a french blue on her cheek patches if it is a match then shes violet Grey :} pms 654 i think it is Edited April 5, 2011 by GenericBlue Link to comment
moglet 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 6,633 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 165 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,080 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/03/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 The PMS connection is weird!! Official budgie colours... what a cracker. I have been known to take my PMS swatches to Spotlight at times.....! Lucky they don't have a PMS 185 budgie match... I'd be worried!!!! Well, now I know I have a beautiful Mauve pied girl.... who needs a good personal trainer! Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted April 5, 2011 that would be pretty though kaz can wip one up lol shes good with photo shop pitty im not as would been quiet fun to do in that colour :} Link to comment
moglet 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 6,633 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 165 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,080 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/03/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 Couldn't help myself.... Link to comment
*Nerwen* 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 5,064 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,817 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,375 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2014 Birthday: 20/02/1982 Share Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) used the 654 number. I'm not saying she can't be violet grey - as personally I've not seen one in real life and that is how i can notice differences in colours the best. I'm just using tools to show the best match to her colour. i used this colour to tool on pictures with my own birds ages ago. Moglet it is a colour picked to state what is the colour aimed for in showing by the World Budgie Organisation. (check out the link) edit - teehee I love your new "pink" hen. Edited April 5, 2011 by **KAZ** Link to comment
Finnie 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Member ID: 5,135 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,545 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 14,055 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2020 Birthday: 06/08/1965 Share Posted April 5, 2011 If a bird is both violet & grey the shade of the cheek patches and the tail can be effected making identification difficult Neville, what is a bird is both violet and mauve? Is that equally as hard to tell from violet and grey? Grey and violet are both colour adding factors so the birds will always have an underlying shade of blue. Your birds cheek patches are not the right shade for a bird that is just mauve but they are a deeper blue than is usual for a grey. This could mean that she is a violet grey or she could be just a grey with brighter than usual cheek patches I think what Neville is saying here, is that she could be grey AND violet, on any shade of blue? Well, here is what I think. You want to pair her up with Whizzbang, right? So I looked him up, here he is: He looks like a Golden face Sky Blue, to me. So, if she is mauve and he is sky blue, you will get all single dark factor offspring. If any come out sky blue, then you can rule out mauve. If any are grey-factored, you will know about that too. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 6, 2011 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted April 6, 2011 (edited) He looks like a Golden face Sky Blue, to me. So, if she is mauve and he is sky blue, you will get all single dark factor offspring. If any come out sky blue, then you can rule out mauve. I think Whizzbang is GF cobalt so the outcome is not as for skyblue Edited April 6, 2011 by **KAZ** Link to comment
moglet 0 Posted April 6, 2011 Member ID: 6,633 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 165 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 1,080 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/03/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 Yes, I think Whizzbang is a GF Cobalt. He is much darker in real life, the flash has brightened his colours a lot. His chest is deep Olive Green, and it merges to quite a deep blue down his tummy and rump. Link to comment
Finnie 0 Posted April 6, 2011 Member ID: 5,135 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,545 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 14,055 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2020 Birthday: 06/08/1965 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Oh, then it won't be conclusive. Unless you still get a sky blue baby, then you will know that both parents only have one dark factor. Link to comment
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