jemappelle 0 Posted January 7, 2011 Member ID: 6,438 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 10 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 80 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 28, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Hi everyone I have my eye on an aviary on Ebay which is local and have talked to my handyman about putting down a concrete slab. The price is right and he said he would put 5 coats of sealant on it to make it easy to clean. I am unsure about the sealant as I am wondering if it will be toxic to the birds - he says it won't be. Anyone got any advice or experience with the sealant? Thanks. Link to comment
splat 0 Posted January 8, 2011 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted January 8, 2011 No but I would be interested to see what others say. I was going to put down a water sealant on mine but as you unsure. Link to comment
Harry 0 Posted January 8, 2011 Member ID: 6,202 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 30 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 200 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 31/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 26, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I wouldn't worry about the sealant, the concrete floor is easy to clean in an aviary - if you don't mind splashing some water in there. All you need is a stiff bristled broom, and after the concrete has been wet just sweep away all the gunk, the poo comes away easily with a stiff broom. Make sure you get him to do the concrete at a slight angle - my concrete was done dodgily and the water does not drain, it will make life so much easier Good luck Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 8, 2011 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I agree with Harry. You dont need a sealant. If the finish of the concrete is smooth all you need is a scraper and a broom or vacuum. Link to comment
splat 0 Posted January 8, 2011 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Greg re cement all my aviaries because if you remember I did that cheats way, which turned out to be a pain because to rough to clean probably. Anyway all aviaries look great now but the latest one my birds have peaked 2 little holes in the cement. Greg said it is a sign they are lacking something but what I do not know because they have grit in there all the time, I give them true grit plus normal grit, plus they also got the PVM powder on and off plus what ever I put in their water which is not to much of late as I am trying to keep it simple. My point is, if the sealant is poisoness the birds might chip away at the cement and DEAD birds. I am with Harry and Kaz, I use a large scraper and scape off all the droppings once a week and wash the aviaries out once a month, much less over winter as I do not wet their cage at all in the winter. Link to comment
splat 0 Posted January 8, 2011 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted January 8, 2011 (edited) Edited January 8, 2011 by splat Link to comment
jemappelle 0 Posted January 8, 2011 Member ID: 6,438 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 10 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 80 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 Thanks for that everyone and it certainly makes it a little cheaper. And someone is already bidding on my aviary! I think I will need to investigate that sniper software. Link to comment
jemappelle 0 Posted January 13, 2011 Member ID: 6,438 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 10 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 80 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 Unfortunately I didn't win the aviary so now I am looking at other sizes. There is another listed that is about 2.3 m long and 800 mm wide with a height of 1.8 m. Is the width too narrow for about half a dozen birds? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 13, 2011 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Fine for the amount of birds you say but deeper would be better if you plan adding more birds in the future. Whats your budget ? Have you checked gumtree ? Edited January 13, 2011 by **KAZ** Link to comment
jemappelle 0 Posted January 13, 2011 Member ID: 6,438 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 10 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 80 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/12/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 Yes I have been checking Gumtree daily. I think I need a dose of patience. Link to comment
kochy23 0 Posted January 16, 2011 Member ID: 6,317 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 130 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 905 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2020 Birthday: 29/09/1987 Share Posted January 16, 2011 (edited) with the bottom of my flights i just went to a local sawmill and picked up a few bags of wood shavings so when its time to clean i just scoop the shavings out and lay a new bed down it may save you the hassle of scraping down concrete? untreated shavings of course Edited January 16, 2011 by kochy23 Link to comment
splat 0 Posted January 16, 2011 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted January 16, 2011 When Greg re did my aviaries the biggest one he did a **** job. Well not really but I really don't know what he was thinking when he did it because he put a fall on it which is great but he took it lower than how I already had it and all the droppings and what ever collect at the front and when it rains it is dreadful, all this pooey water just sits there for the poor birds to drink and die. You see he took the front to the bottom of the of the rail on the floor instead of it going to the top for everything to flow out like droppings and water. Aviaries are open at front so rain gets in about 1 foot. Anyway today I put some more cement down to build it up and and for it to drain out BUT I am worried it will break away because it isn't very thick in places. BUT does look much better. Anyway why I am writing is because Greg just put down some kind of resin on his pigeon loft, seals rock hard and is as smooth as a babies behind. I would like to use it on the front of this aviary in hope that it will save it from cracking but I don't really know if is is safe. SO MY QUESTION IS has anyone ever used this resin stuff. Directions are 2 parts resin 1 part harder. Tradesmen use it in garages etc. We have know info on it as Greg got it from work from a tradesmen. I am thinking of using it on my new birdroom floor instead of tiles or lino. But I am a bit weary on the aviary floor. So if anyone knows can you please send me a PM to let me know. I did look on the internet and I did find that some resin are made from plant material. Cheers Link to comment
kochy23 0 Posted January 18, 2011 Member ID: 6,317 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 130 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 905 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/10/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2020 Birthday: 29/09/1987 Share Posted January 18, 2011 being a builder, ive built a few cow sheds and after we pour the concrete floors and spray a liquid sealant over the floor that seeps in and makes it so **** is easy to wash off and the concrete is alot easier to clean and wont stain i can find out the name of the stuff if anyone wants to know its kind of expensive from memeory but that was because a cowshed floor is such a vast area id imagine it wouldnt be too costly being aviary floor arent that big Link to comment
JimmyBanks 0 Posted January 18, 2011 Member ID: 4,130 Group: Site Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,370 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 25,112 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2015 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted January 18, 2011 That would be great if you could find out Kochy Link to comment
splat 0 Posted January 18, 2011 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted January 18, 2011 This stuff is resin and then you add hardener, Greg said the tradesmen put the first layer on with a trough and when dried they put the second coat on with a paint roller and then when they were all finished and it was all try they threw fine sand over it. I guess so no one slips over. The second coat a colour is added, like grey so it looks like cement. Gregs pigeon loft now looks very shinny, it actually looks like there is water sitting on top. Greg said the job the tradesman were doing was costing his work place $10,000 but I guess it was a large area as it is a factory. I would hate to use it and the birds pecked away at it and then died, I would cry. If it is the same stuff I would love to know if it is safe for budgies. Cheers Link to comment
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