New Bubs

[robyn 0]

Some of my new bubs.

These 8 are from same nest.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

These 4 are from another nest not yet fully fledged. Pet bird's only but I'm very pleased with them so far.

 

 

 

 

 

[**KAZ** 0]

What a fantastic range of beautiful babies you have there !!!! I would be proud to see them flying in my aviary

[splat 0]

Wow yes I got into your post have been trying for a while and internet keeps shutting me down.

They are gorgeous chicks Robin

[JimmyBanks 0]

great Variety! They look fantastic Congratulations!

[anne101 0]

Beautiful babies Robyn .....

 

 

[rachelm 0]

Gorgeous babies Robyn.I love all the different colours from the 1 nest

[robyn 0]

Thank's everyone, really strong colours from first nest Dad is a Gr Normal/Blue. (I think) and no 5 chick ( picture 7) is a clone of Mum.

Edited October 28, 2010 by robyn

[alpaca-boy 0]

once again robyn your chicks look amazing!

 

i cant remmeber when i think it was the start of this year or end of last year you had a post on your babies

and they ALL looked fantastic that time, and again they look amazing

 

your chicks are always so vibrant! congratulations!

and well done!

 

just a question robyn, when you pick your pairs.. do you look for anything in particular to match?

maybe thats your secret!

 

cant wait to see more, im assuming you have some more to come right?

 

From alpaca-boy

 

PS: love the look on this chick... posing for the camera

its wing markings are so clear and defined, i want that in my birds when i start breeding!

[Pride 0]

great results robyn, i just love this chick:)

 

 

 

 

[robyn 0]

Thank you Pride, I've got some lovely pied's this year.

 

Alpaca B. , I managed to get a few (6) show stock birds, 1 was lost from aviary, 1 died, 2 had long feather gene chicks,1 Aquarius had hormone problem (has 6 eggs again now) , 1 Is Mum to last 4 chicks.in post she is sky -blue spangle.( plus she is fostering 2)

 

What I have been trying is pairing my small pet type birds with the larger show stock birds. I bought Hulk (Dad of first 8) at a pet shop. I think he is show stock and he has bred the beautiful chicks in first pics.

His mate is only a small hen, but they make beautiful babies!!

 

So I am going now on the past chicks each has bred, to give me a guide as to what each is split for etc. I'm hopeless at the genetic thing, so I'm just having fun trying to improve my birds colours etc.

 

p.s. have 8 others nearly out of kindy. + 12 eggs so far from 2 box's.

Edited October 30, 2010 by robyn

[alpaca-boy 0]

ahhh thats what you do! wow robyn!

thats your secret, ive never heard of anyone doing that before... your a pioneeer!

 

thats interesting, well you have definately acheived good colour if thats what you were hoping for!

very vibrant budgies, lovely colours

 

and you are right your pids are looking great!

cant wait to see more pictures!

[ishtarsands 0]

Oh my they are just so beautiful, what wonderful colours

Edited November 17, 2010 by **KAZ**

[robyn 0]

Adding another nest of chicks, unfortunately I could not keep all so sold ones that were very similar only "keeping one of a kind" so I have a variety in my birds.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[alpaca-boy 0]

oooh thanks for the pictures!!! you know i love em robyn !

 

there is some really nice colours in this lot robyn !!

i like the first picture with the light but very vibrant green!

 

well done!

i see what you mean by selling of "doubles", variety is good

[robyn 0]

Update pics of previous chicks. (second nest chicks) front and back.

 

 

 

I think these should be clearflight NOT clearwing. Just trying to decide their mutations.

 

The bird on RIGHT of picture is DAD. Mum is skyblue opaline spangle.(not shown)

 

 

P.S. MUM IS SKYBLUE AT BACK OF picture 3.

Edited November 16, 2010 by robyn

[Dellouisa 0]

They are really lovely! Gorgeous colours.

[**KAZ** 0]

Lovely chicks you have there

 

 

Dont get confused between clearwings and clearflights

[GenericBlue 0]

Update pics of previous chicks. (second nest chicks) front and back.

 

 

 

I think these should be clearflight NOT clearwing. Just trying to decide their mutations.

 

The bird on RIGHT of picture is DAD. Mum is skyblue opaline spangle.(not shown)

 

 

P.S. MUM IS SKYBLUE AT BACK OF picture 3.

 

dads a dom pied

as is son

son is spangle dom pied

clear flights only have just that clear flights the secondary's will be fully coloured in a clear flight

if their not dom their composite pieds

[alpaca-boy 0]

 

i just love this on robyn !! nice clear markings and a cute face, and great colour too!

 

and isnt this one a clearflight GB

are clearflights allowed to have clear patches on their chest

i understand that it means they have no colour on flight feathers but can clearflight pieds have pied on chest?

[GenericBlue 0]

well with all the combination's of pieds these days anythings possible but this bird has a band across chest of the right diameter of a dom pied clear-flight or dutch pieds as i know them have white bellow chest then small part under tail and around onto back( of colour) and small patch of colour under chin but banding is really not their its more white chest with colour under chin or full body colour with just clear long flights not secondary's and small patch on head

these are def dom pieds not clear flights or as i said composition pies a combination of the three pieds rec dom and clearflight

 

 

 

Genetics of Clearflight Pied

 

Summary:

Clearflight Pied - dominant

Normal - recessive

 

The inheritance pattern of clearflight pied is the same as dominant pied. However, clearflight pied is unrelated to either dominant pied or recessive pied, and a budgie can have any combination of the three pieds at the same time. There are only two alleles for clearflight pied: the normal gene and the clearflight pied gene. The clearflight pied gene is completely dominant to the recessive normal gene. This means that a single-factor clearflight pied looks the same as the double-factor clearflight pied. Here, we will represent the clearflight pied gene as "P" and the normal gene as "p". Therefore there are three possible genetic combinations for any budgie:

 

* pp - Two normal genes (homozygous) resulting in a normal budgie.

* Pp - One clearflight pied gene and one normal gene (heterozygous) resulting in a visually clearflight pied budgie that is single-factor.

* PP - Two clearflight pied genes (homozygous) resulting in a visually clearflight pied budgie that is double-factor.

 

As you can see, it only takes one clearflight pied gene for a budgie to display the clearflight pied traits. This makes this is an easy variety to breed. Below are some punnet square examples of pairings.

 

A normal budgie and a single-factor clearflight pied

ppXPp

p p

P Pp Pp

p Pp Pp

 

Offspring Phenotype Results:

50% Clearflight Pied

50% Normal

 

Offspring Genotype Results:

50% Heterozygous (Pp)

50% Homozygous recessive (pp)

 

 

A normal budgie and a double-factor clearflight pied

ppXPP

p p

P Pp Pp

P Pp Pp

 

Offspring Phenotype Results:

100% Clearflight Pied

 

Offspring Genotype Results:

100% Heterozygous (Pp)

 

Two single-factor clearflight pieds

PpXPp

P p

P PP Pp

p Pp pp

 

Offspring Phenotype Results:

75% Clearflight Pied

25% Normal

 

Offspring Genotype Results:

50% Heterozygous (Pp)

25% Homozygous dominant (PP)

25% Homozygous recessive (pp)

 

 

A single factor clearflight pied budgie and a double factor clearflight pied budgie

PpXPP

P p

P PP Pp

P PP Pp

 

Offspring Phenotype Results:

100% Clearflight Pied

 

Offspring Genotype Results:

50% Homozygous dominant (PP)

50% Heterozygous (Pp)

Edited November 17, 2010 by GenericBlue

[robyn 0]

Thanks A.B & G.B,

 

G.B. thanks for your info. have copied first bit for future ref.

 

REST IS SO FAR OVER MY HEAD ....... don't know when I'll get it sorted.

 

BUT these 4 are keepers for sure. Love the pieds.

 

Lovely chicks you have there

 

 

Dont get confused between clearwings and clearflights

 

 

Thank's Kaz but don't worry I can get confused between anything..I keep reading over "stuff" but it's the grey matter that has the trouble.

 

They are really lovely! Gorgeous colours.

 

Thank you Dellouisa, as mine are pet types I'm not trying to breed anything in particular, just some lovely birds to have in aviary.

[alpaca-boy 0]

well dont worry robyn as your doing a good job of that... your birds are fantastic.

[robyn 0]

Thank you a.b. glad you like them, waiting on new chicks feathering, up looks like more "Aussie's" on the way (green & gold pieds) 7 chicks in nest. Aquarius's are not old enough to tell yet but has 7 chicks also.

[alpaca-boy 0]

Thank you a.b. glad you like them, waiting on new chicks feathering, up looks like more "Aussie's" on the way (green & gold pieds) 7 chicks in nest. Aquarius's are not old enough to tell yet but has 7 chicks also.

 

 

cool i love pieds, cant wait to see more pictures