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Pair 1 - 4 eggs

 

Pair 2 - 6 eggs

 

Pair 3 - 7 eggs

 

Pair 4 - 4 eggs

 

Pair 5 - egg bum, no egg yet

 

Pair 6 - egg bum, no egg yet

 

Pair 7 - 1 egg

 

Pair 8 - I was mistaken, there are 2 eggs in there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Pair 1 - 6 eggs

 

Pair 2 - 6 eggs

 

Pair 3 - 7 eggs

 

Pair 4 - 4 eggs

 

Pair 5 - no egg yet

 

Pair 6 - no egg yet

 

Pair 7 - 4 eggs

 

Pair 8 - 4 eggs

 

I know there are some DIS in some boxes, however I am concerned that some eggs are not fertile. It has been a long time now, well over the 18 days, and still no hatching so I am concerned abotu some pairs.

 

I also have 9 new cages, so i will be setting them up over the next week or so.

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Seriously Dave its about time you began to candle eggs, then at least you could toss out the "empties" :D

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Seriously Dave its about time you began to candle eggs, then at least you could toss out the "empties" :D

 

You are probably right there

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Dont waste them Dave.......throw them hard on the pavement in front of the dogs and they will gobble them up and leave no signs there ever was an eggy pavement :D

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Dont waste them Dave.......throw them hard on the pavement in front of the dogs and they will gobble them up and leave no signs there ever was an eggy pavement :rofl:

 

I tried that once before. Mac or Tess ate one up and then later I found one of them had been sick and there was thrown up egg on the ground. Not pretty. Decided not to adopt that idea again. :D:D:D

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I have a torch the same as Kaz's I candle all the time so easy, never have to touch an egg. You need one too Dave :D

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Dont waste them Dave.......throw them hard on the pavement in front of the dogs and they will gobble them up and leave no signs there ever was an eggy pavement :rofl:

 

I tried that once before. Mac or Tess ate one up and then later I found one of them had been sick and there was thrown up egg on the ground. Not pretty. Decided not to adopt that idea again. :D:D:D

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You probably gave them an OLD egg Dave :rofl:

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i found my little egg torch, with the bendable arm.

 

I need to refresh myself on what I am supposed to be seeing again, then I will go check

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First time breeders, humidity and poor timing have all influenced my lack of success with my birds breeding. I am closing this thread witha heavy heart.

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I was a bit disappointed with the ways things were going so I closed this thread, however hope springs eternal, thus the thread was reopened.

 

Pair 1 - 6 new eggs

 

Pair 2 - 5 new eggs

 

Pair 3 - no nestbox

 

Pair 4 - 5 eggs

 

Pair 5 - 1 egg layed from perch - cracked, and one egg layed in nestbox and eaten. fake eggs will be used

 

Pair 6 - 5 eggs but only 1 fertile, 1 lovely chick :camera: to come

 

Pair 7 - no eggs, pair to be returned to the aviary next weekend

 

Pair 8 - 6 eggs, 4 lovely chicks, first one is an opaline bird with yellow pins coming through :camera: to come

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Next to the pair numbers can you write what they are :D

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Next to the pair numbers can you write what they are :D

 

Sure

 

Pair 1 - Grey Cock to YF Grey Hen

 

Pair 2 - GreyGreen Cock to DF Yellow Spangle Hen

 

Pair 3 - Cinnamon GreyGreen Cock to Opaline GreyGreen Dominant Pied Hen - nestbox returned today

 

Pair 4 - GreyGreen Spangle Cock to DF Yellow Spangle Hen

 

Pair 5 - Opaline Violet Cock to Green Hen

 

Pair 6 - Green Cock to Green Spangle Hen - lovely young baby with lovely new leg ring.

 

Pair 7 - Opaline Violet Sky Spangle Cock to Cinnamon GreyGreen Hen - hen is an internal egg layer and is in trouble physically. Hen was removed and put in a hospital cage with survival as her issue. Cock was returned to the aviary. No feeding of chicks in this case so he was still in good condition - no need for recovering time.

 

Pair 8 - Opaline Violet Sky Spangle Cock (Dumb - bird in my signature picture) to Opaline Green Dominant Pied Spangle Hen - 4 bubs all going great, 2 sporting lovely new leg rings.

 

Hope this helps jog some memories

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Pair 8 - Opaline Violet Sky Spangle Cock (Dumb - bird in my signature picture) to Opaline Green Dominant Pied Spangle Hen - 4 bubs all going great, 2 sporting lovely new leg rings.

 

 

Is this hen split to blue, by any chance? And what dark factor? I'm thinking this pair can produce quite a variety, can't wait to see these 4 chicks feather up!:D

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Pleased things have improved for you Dean, I hope all goes well for you now.

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Pair 8 - Opaline Violet Sky Spangle Cock (Dumb - bird in my signature picture) to Opaline Green Dominant Pied Spangle Hen - 4 bubs all going great, 2 sporting lovely new leg rings.

 

 

Is this hen split to blue, by any chance? And what dark factor? I'm thinking this pair can produce quite a variety, can't wait to see these 4 chicks feather up!:D

 

I am not sure if the hen is split blue, I am unable to ascertain any information on this hen. There are no dark factors involved which is always good - no dark factors and no grey factors.

 

A tragedy occurred in this nestbox last night.

 

At about 11:30pm i was in bed and my dogs barked. I listened to what they were barking at. There was a banging sound coming from inside the breeding room. I got out of bed, grabbed a torch and went downstairs.

 

I opened the breeding room door very carefully , shoen in the torch and I could see the problem. It seems that a nestbox seems to have expanded and the doors that slide up and down had fallen off. The cock bird was free in the breeding room, flying around in the dark into walls, thus the banging. I grabbed him and returned him into the cage. It was then that I realised that the cheeping coming from the remainder of the nestbox only beloonged to one chick, not the four that should have been there.

 

I looked around on the ground and all I could see was one chick. I picked it up and it was ice cold. I remember reading on here that breathing on the chick with a hot breath can revive it if it is not too far gone, so I cupped it in my hands and blew my hot breath on it. I looked after 20 seconds, and there was a wiggle. I repeated the process for another 30 seconds, and the wiggle was greater. I repeated the process and this resulted in the smallest of chirps. Repeating the process multiple more times meant that I now had a chick that was chirping and wriggling in my hands.

 

I placed it back in the new nestbox I had hung up with the one chick that did not fall out. I wanted to see if the hen was going to claim the new nestbox. I put some wood shavings and feathers from the old nestbox in the new nestbox to try to encourage her.

 

I then found the third chick who was not looking good. It's crop was empty and it was ice cold. No breathing was bringing this one back. This chick had obviously died in the nest box well before it broke apart. There was nothing I could do for this one.

 

I could not see the fourth and oldest chick anywhere. I felt that it must have been taken by something, that somehow a mouse had gotten in and stolen the chick away.

 

With the hen and cock refusing to go near the new nestbox, and one chick needing a lot of body heat from a hen, I put the chick that was alive on the gound in nestbox of another hen who only had one chick, hoping this mum would be a great foster mum as well.

 

I closed everything up and went to bed. I had a lot of trouble falling asleep and felt bad about the missing chick. How could I have seen nothing? It must be there somewhere.

 

I procrastinated for 20 minutes then my curiousity made me get up and go look again.

 

This time I got the torch and layed down on my stomach in the bird room, looking under the breeding cages. There is was at the back, lying in the dropped seed, not moving. I reached in and picked it up carefully. It was stone cold, there was a little blood coming from its mouth on one side, and it was covered in seed. There was no movement.

 

I brushed the seed off the chick, and there was still no signs of life. I was too late. I took the ring off its leg and had one last look. It was gone. I lifted the lid of the bin to put the little on in, and I thought i saw the faintest movement. I stopped and brought my hand closer to my face. Again was that a movement or just wishful thinking. Nothing to lose, I cupped my hands and breathed out into my hands. I looked, there was more movement. I cupped my hands again and repeated the blowing. Now a wiggle. I kept repeating the process, and then there was chirping. Life.

 

I was still worried about the hen not returning to the new nestbox, so I moved all the chicks to the hen that previously only had 1 chick, so overnight she had 4.

 

There was nothing more I could. I went to bed.

 

At 6:30 this morning I went down and looked in the breeding room. The dommie pied hen had still not entered the new nestbox, although she was thinking about it. I can understand her reluctance, but her young would have died if they had not been moved. Hopefully they survived in their new nestbox.

 

I looked in their new home, to see if the hen had taken to her new 3 young, givign her a total of 4 young, with gusto. I was prepared for the worst. Luckily for me, everyone looked like they had not only warmed up, but had been fed. Most were wiggling and writhing around like mad things. I still have some concerns for the eldest who was bleeding from the mouth. This one is touch and go, but there is nothing that can be done. It is a matter of wait and see.

 

So I now stand at the stage of some hens on egg, some empty nestboxes, and 1 hen with 4 bubs, three which are fosters. Only 1 is rung - the non-fostered bub.

 

I will check again tonight and then in the morhing, however it definitely has been a time where there has been great adventure, not all good, in the wattle flights breeding house.

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You did great Dave :D Well done :)

 

your name is dave isnt it.........or is it Dean :D

Edited by KAZ

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I am just happy that there is the chance of a happy ending.

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You did great Dave :D Well done :)

 

your name is dave isnt it.........or is it Dean :D

 

Must just be that those with a name beginning with D were due for a run of bad luck so it's easy to see how we get mixed up :P

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Hope all the little ones make it Dave, a very good job at reviving them too : )

 

 

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Pleased things have improved for you Dean, I hope all goes well for you now.

OOOOPs sorry Dave, I did mean to write Dave but my fingers must of typed Dean ;) I am in no control of what my fingers do, they seem to have a mind of their own :P

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im sorry dave

but on a good note

thats the best read ive had for ever

i was taken in and i didnt fall asleep to boot lol

you should write a book on your breeding venture this year im sure if it was written as your post it would be a great read

:}

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Well I have been doing HSC marking so I usually leave at 7am and get home close to 10pm, so there is little chance to check on the birds. Luckily the solar garden shed light is wonderful so it gives me more "daylight" to check in on the little ones.

 

After the drama last night, I am pleased to say it is all good tonight. Everyone of the little ones are fed and doing great, wriggling around and chirping away.

 

The largest one was definitely my biggest concern, but he/she is doing better than ever. They actually look healthier in their foster nest than they did in their birth nest. I know the eldest is going to be a yellow based bird and the white down indicates opaline, but DF spangle is still a big chance, so I am hoping for the best.

 

I am going to try to put rings on in the morning before I scoot off to school, although I plan to leave at about 6:30 tomorrow so it will be hard, but I feel rejuvenated now more than ever.

 

I am really hoping for some little ones out of the other eggs.

 

Thank you for the kind comments, especially your comment GB about the way I wrote my long post. I really wanted to try to get the emotion of what I was feeling across in the post, along with the questions I was asking myself and the thoughts I was having. I hope I did that, if even in a limited way.

 

I will be able to get pics soon, I promise.

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Well I have been doing HSC marking so I usually leave at 7am and get home close to 10pm, so there is little chance to check on the birds. Luckily the solar garden shed light is wonderful so it gives me more "daylight" to check in on the little ones.

 

After the drama last night, I am pleased to say it is all good tonight. Everyone of the little ones are fed and doing great, wriggling around and chirping away.

 

The largest one was definitely my biggest concern, but he/she is doing better than ever. They actually look healthier in their foster nest than they did in their birth nest. I know the eldest is going to be a yellow based bird and the white down indicates opaline, but DF spangle is still a big chance, so I am hoping for the best.

 

I am going to try to put rings on in the morning before I scoot off to school, although I plan to leave at about 6:30 tomorrow so it will be hard, but I feel rejuvenated now more than ever.

 

I am really hoping for some little ones out of the other eggs.

 

Thank you for the kind comments, especially your comment GB about the way I wrote my long post. I really wanted to try to get the emotion of what I was feeling across in the post, along with the questions I was asking myself and the thoughts I was having. I hope I did that, if even in a limited way.

 

I will be able to get pics soon, I promise.

you did it dave

not limited perfectly :}

if everyone posted as you did id probably read with more gusto all breeding posts

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You did great Dave :D Well done :)

 

your name is dave isnt it.........or is it Dean :D

 

Must just be that those with a name beginning with D were due for a run of bad luck so it's easy to see how we get mixed up :P

Hmmm, MY real name starts with D, too. I wonder if THAT could be the reason for the problems I have had. :hmm:

 

Thank you for the kind comments, especially your comment GB about the way I wrote my long post. I really wanted to try to get the emotion of what I was feeling across in the post, along with the questions I was asking myself and the thoughts I was having. I hope I did that, if even in a limited way.

 

I was riveted, as well, Dave. Very good writing!:D

 

I'm really glad to hear that the chicks are warm and fed. One nice thing is, since the non-fostered chick was already rung, you don't have to worry about getting them mixed up.

 

I hope things go smoother after this.

 

About that nest box, you think the wood expanded? Would that be due to excess humidity? Wait, humidity and expanding wood would cause the pieces to become wedged together tighter, I think. Maybe dry air causing the wood to shrink and become loose? Was it only that one box, or are any of your other boxes in danger?

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