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Chick Mutations - Pair 3


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Last pair, these are the chicks that have me very confused! :party0011:

Opinions on mutations please? :happy-dancing:

 

Here are the parents:

 

Cock is a goldenface cobalt dominant pied or clearflight? Must be split for opaline since he was two opaline chicks that I wasn't expecting. The hen is a light green normal or dark green?

 

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They had a clutch of five chicks.

 

I included pictures of their tail feathers, I don't know if they are blue series birds or green series? I'm guessing blue since they all started with blue feathers on their legs and lower belly. They all have clear flights and blue feathers mixed in with the green. And what colors are they?

Chick 1 - He has a very small spot on the back of his head, no band.

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Chick 2 - She is one of the opalines, has a very thin yellow band across her belly. No spot.

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Chick 3 - This one looks just like chick 1 with a bigger spot on his head.

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Chick 4 - Spot on the back of his head, thin yellow band across belly.

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Chick 5 - The other opaline, same color as chicks 1 and 3 with no band and no spot but with clear flights.

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All chick pictures were taken without flash. The yellow is a little brighter than the pictures show. What do you think?

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I'm no help, but Chick 2 is really pretty!<3

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I'm no help, but Chick 2 is really pretty!<3

 

Thanks, I really like her she is a special one :happy-dancing:

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chicks match for the clear flight pied gene, but i would have called him a normal dominant pied. All are dark green except for Chick 2 she would be light green

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chicks match for the clear flight pied gene, but i would have called him a normal dominant pied. All are dark green except for Chick 2 she would be light green

 

 

Yes! I am learning! This is the same as I was thinking! (I tried to work it out before I looked at anyone's replies.)

 

Nerwin, do you think the cock could be both dominant pied and clearflight pied? Is there a way to tell?

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Thanks for the reply :)

 

Is there variations to the "dark green" then? Because chick 4 is a very different shade than chicks 1, 3 and 5.

And why is there so much blue in the chicks? they all have blue tail feathers, and blue feathers on their lower belly. They all have a blue sheen to them as well if that makes sense?

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There is natural variation in everything including colouring so you will see variations even in the same colour.

 

Dark greens often have (especially as babies) quite a lot of blue on their rump and vent area - normal.

 

Dominant Pieds - these also have variations between no band and lots of band or mixed markings. These babies - head spots, no head spots, whatever - are dominant pieds.

 

The only slightly confusing thing for me is that the last chick looks to be an olive. It's a bit early for me to tell 100%. If that ends up correct then mummy needs to be a dark factor (although she looks like a light green to me) UNLESS - there is that slate thing again....... RIP make reference to it previously on a confusing dark factor outcome. If chick 5 is a hen (and it looks like it) AND mummy is indeed a normal light green then maybe slate needs consideration too. BUT I'd have to wait to see them all fully fledged before making that call. More likely that she's just and opaline dark green really.

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There is natural variation in everything including colouring so you will see variations even in the same colour.

 

Dark greens often have (especially as babies) quite a lot of blue on their rump and vent area - normal.

 

Dominant Pieds - these also have variations between no band and lots of band or mixed markings. These babies - head spots, no head spots, whatever - are dominant pieds.

 

The only slightly confusing thing for me is that the last chick looks to be an olive. It's a bit early for me to tell 100%. If that ends up correct then mummy needs to be a dark factor (although she looks like a light green to me) UNLESS - there is that slate thing again....... RIP make reference to it previously on a confusing dark factor outcome. If chick 5 is a hen (and it looks like it) AND mummy is indeed a normal light green then maybe slate needs consideration too. BUT I'd have to wait to see them all fully fledged before making that call. More likely that she's just and opaline dark green really.

 

All chicks except for chick 2 have blue all the way up to their chest, only their chest is green the rest of them is blue. Chick 5 is an opaline hen and she is the same color as chick 1 and 3, not an olive so I guess that makes mom a light green.

 

Thanks :angel:

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