joan and ray 0 Posted July 24, 2010 Member ID: 6,190 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 20 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 120 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Hi all, Six weeks ago I adopted 2 little budgies. (long story) A male possibly a pied blue and a white female. Both were poorly bred. The little white one who I have named "Joan" of Arc was not a well bird. I am new to birds but thought I would give it a go. She was unable to fly and one of her foot is slightly turned in. She can now fly a little, climbs everywhere, very bright and alert and her feathers look nice and has a new personality. Ray the male is now going through his first moult and this is what what bought me here. After reading the posts in the health section and seeing the pics confirmed my suspicion. I have lots to learn and look forward to reading the posts. Link to comment
rachelm 0 Posted July 24, 2010 Member ID: 6,042 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 740 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2014 Birthday: 15/06/1977 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Hello and Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 24, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Welcome Joan and Ray Link to comment
Finnie 0 Posted July 24, 2010 Member ID: 5,135 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,545 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 14,055 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2020 Birthday: 06/08/1965 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Hi! Welcome to the forum. Link to comment
Kassidy 0 Posted July 24, 2010 Member ID: 6,100 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 86 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 555 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 29/05/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 13, 2012 Birthday: 31/03/1997 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Hello! Hope your little ones will recover soon! Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 25, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Are you sure of the sexes of your birds ? As Ray ( the male ) is going through his first moult and did you know that young females have ceres with blue on it ? Blue with whitish is a young female. Link to comment
joan and ray 0 Posted July 25, 2010 Member ID: 6,190 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 20 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 120 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 25, 2010 Are you sure of the sexes of your birds ? As Ray ( the male ) is going through his first moult and did you know that young females have ceres with blue on it ? Blue with whitish is a young female. No I wasn't 100% sure. I did assume that the blue cere did determine that he was a boy. Just went and had a closer look. You are right, it's a pale blue with some whitishness. It was originally all very true blue but light in colour. I will try and put up some pics later. Maybe Joan is a different sex as well? If they are 2 females will they be okay together? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 25, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 25, 2010 I thought so.......Ray is really a Raelene When you said before about getting cranky I knew you had a female Link to comment
joan and ray 0 Posted July 25, 2010 Member ID: 6,190 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 20 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 120 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 25, 2010 Just googled more pics and think maybe Joans a boy? The cere is very mauve no white showing. Now I'm all confused Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 25, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Just googled more pics and think maybe Joans a boy? The cere is very mauve no white showing.Now I'm all confused Basing all our info on your descriptions so the sooner you do a clear cere photo with no flash used the sooner we can help Link to comment
joan and ray 0 Posted July 25, 2010 Member ID: 6,190 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 20 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 120 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 25, 2010 I thought so.......Ray is really a Raelene When you said before about getting cranky I knew you had a female LOL makes sense. Just googled more pics and think maybe Joans a boy? The cere is very mauve no white showing.Now I'm all confused Basing all our info on your descriptions so the sooner you do a clear cere photo with no flash used the sooner we can help Definitely. Will have to get OH to upload pics later tonight as I have no idea how to. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 25, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 25, 2010 How to post pictures is a link in my signature. here is some female budgies showing white blue ceres Link to comment
Finnie 0 Posted July 25, 2010 Member ID: 5,135 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,545 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 14,055 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2020 Birthday: 06/08/1965 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Just googled more pics and think maybe Joans a boy? The cere is very mauve no white showing.Now I'm all confused No need to confuse yourself googling the whole internet! We have all the info you need to learn already here on BBC. Here is a post where you can see what other members' recessive pied males look like. (Just to give you an idea of the lavender/pink color that some male budgies have on their ceres.) Member's recessive pied budgies- click here And here is a link to a post that teaches you a lot about telling males from females:budgie ceres- click here You can also go over the the "What sex is my budgie" area, and read tons of posts where people have wanted to know what they've got, and there are lots of examples with pictures. But like Kaz said, the quickest way to find out is to post a picture, and let us tell you! Link to comment
joan and ray 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Member ID: 6,190 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 20 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 120 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 (edited) Edited July 26, 2010 by joan and ray fixed links Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 26, 2010 When you post a photobucket picture you need to click on the IMG link on photobucket to copy the link. Then when you post here you click on the photo symbol and paste your copied img link into that box and it will appear here as the image/photo. You are allowed to post pictures here that are 480 by 640 PS your blue spangle is female. Link to comment
joan and ray 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Member ID: 6,190 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 20 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 120 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 Thanks for your help. Is the white one a boy? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 26, 2010 (edited) Thanks for your help. Is the white one a boy? Pictures are too small.........................please repost in suitable sizes.......image code only as advised ***Never mind I will try for you See the whitish blue cere ???? thats what makes her female Edited July 26, 2010 by KAZ Link to comment
nubbly5 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Member ID: 5,023 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 39 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,608 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 8,635 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 21, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Hi and welcome. I think Joan is actually a Ray and Ray is actually a Joan. In other words the blue spangle is definitely a hen and it looks like the white (an albino) is a male. Male albinos, lutinos and a couple of other varieties never get a blue cere but their cere stays a pinky purple colour. It looks like the albino is a cock bird but it's a tiny bit hard to tell from the pics. Link to comment
joan and ray 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Member ID: 6,190 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 20 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 120 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 Thanks for all your help and replies. Yes I did have them the wrong way around. I will have to keep their names tho. Joan really responds to the name. Joan? is very affectionate and will sit on my finger where as Ray(lene) is not interested. I did buy some Vetafarm moulting aid, hope this was the right thing to do. They have budgie seed and I have mixed in some vetafarm crumbles, millet spray a couple times a week and experimenting with different veg. So far we have tried bok choy, apple, carrot and a homemade egg and biscuit. They like chewing on the apple branch. They are very amusing and are really into each other. I love hearing them chatter. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 26, 2010 You could call Joan JOE Link to comment
birdluv 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Member ID: 2,137 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 144 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,842 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,670 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/03/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 30, 2018 Birthday: 06/04/1978 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Hi, welcome You have very nice looking budgies. Link to comment
joan and ray 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Member ID: 6,190 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 20 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 120 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 Hi, welcome You have very nice looking budgies. Thankyou. I'm glad I came here. Everyone has been very helpful and now I know what sexes they are. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 26, 2010 (edited) When we talk about SPANGLES as Raelene is ..........its about the wing markings mostly. Here is a great photo of two babies I once had and shows the difference between a NORMAL marked budgie and a SPANGLE marked budgie the normal is on the left and the spangle on the right. If you think in terms of a photo negative taken of the budgie on the left and that photo negative is the markings of the spangle on the right Edited July 26, 2010 by KAZ Link to comment
joan and ray 0 Posted August 19, 2010 Member ID: 6,190 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 20 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 120 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/07/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 Back again. Budgies are doing really well. I'm pretty sure they are both girls. Now when I go in to talk to them I just call them both birdie birds. We got through our first moult. My question is is it normal to chatter and chirp pretty much all day? Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted August 19, 2010 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Back again.Budgies are doing really well. I'm pretty sure they are both girls. Now when I go in to talk to them I just call them both birdie birds. We got through our first moult. My question is is it normal to chatter and chirp pretty much all day? Yes, that is how they should be Link to comment
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