Cara 0 Posted May 24, 2010 Member ID: 4,288 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 70 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 317 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,300 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 13, 2011 Birthday: 11/09/1991 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Everyone in my family says i kill my birds with kindness. This is what i do for my budgie/s: Everyday: - Fresh water - blow out husks of seed - Change newspaper as Molly chews it to shreds - Fresh fruit and veg - Free flight time (when i had Blue and Auzzie, Molly can't fly, has never been able to and she isn't tame or friendly... you can read about her story in another forum) Weekly: - Clean out cage, toys etc - Change all natural perches - Change cage around - Rotate toys - Mite spray cage only: i never sprayed birds and have had no trouble with mites Yearly: (On birthday usually) - They get some sun flower seeds Occationally: - They get other treats (millet, seed stick etc) *Plus worming and vet checks on a regular basis Auzzie my first budgies died at the age of 2 1/2: he developed a tumour Bluie my second budgie: not sure how old he was vet said about 5 years old/ don't know cause of death Molly: we still have her, she has just turned 2 My other family members budgie Tweety died at the age of 9 or older: She had a complete seed diet Water changed only once a week Cage cleaned when ever they could be bothered (unless i was staying then I cleaned it regularly) No natural perches etc No fresh seed regularly Didnt come out of cage at all not even while they were cleaning it cause they only cleaned the bottom plastic part So my question is am i killing my birds with kindness???? What does everyone think??? What should i be doing, what shouldn't i be doing in regards to my birds care??? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 24, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted May 24, 2010 NO Perfect only one thing......why spray the cage for mites when there are none on the bird ? You dont need to do that. All else ............Perfect. When I die I want to come back as one of your birds :rofl: Link to comment
Cara 0 Posted May 24, 2010 Member ID: 4,288 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 70 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 317 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,300 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 13, 2011 Birthday: 11/09/1991 Author Share Posted May 24, 2010 I spray the cage because thats what the back of the packaging says to do weekly to prevent mites.... Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 24, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I spray the cage because thats what the back of the packaging says to do weekly to prevent mites.... Dont believe all the "blurb" on the back of products they expect you to repeatedly buy when not necessary ask here if in doubt. Link to comment
Houman 0 Posted May 24, 2010 Member ID: 5,901 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 388 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,097 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 28, 2020 Birthday: 01/01/1994 Share Posted May 24, 2010 sounds good to me Link to comment
Cara 0 Posted May 24, 2010 Member ID: 4,288 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 70 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 317 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,300 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 13, 2011 Birthday: 11/09/1991 Author Share Posted May 24, 2010 Yes okay, i will stop with the mite spray.... But why do my other family members bird live to 9+ years with hardly any care and mine struggle to get to the 5+ years????? Thats why my family say i kill my birds with kindness. Link to comment
Houman 0 Posted May 24, 2010 Member ID: 5,901 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 388 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,097 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 28, 2020 Birthday: 01/01/1994 Share Posted May 24, 2010 no idea Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 24, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Yes okay, i will stop with the mite spray.... But why do my other family members bird live to 9+ years with hardly any care and mine struggle to get to the 5+ years????? Thats why my family say i kill my birds with kindness. Dont know. Maybe birds used to be hardier than they are these days as we breed them further away from the original budgie. Maybe seed used to be better than it is today too Link to comment
macka 0 Posted May 25, 2010 Member ID: 3,383 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,136 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 31, 2012 Birthday: 24/06/1948 Share Posted May 25, 2010 One reason may be, they are over feed & over weight,with a biuld up of fat, in & around the kidneys & liver.Just a thought. :ohmygod: Link to comment
SundayGirl 0 Posted May 25, 2010 Member ID: 4,916 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 115 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 630 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/12/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 9, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2010 It's the luck of the draw....it's like the question: 'why did my grandfather smoke every day like a chimney and he died of natural causes in his 90s?'....for some things there is no reason. I think you are a responsible and caring pet owner...so you keep doing what you are doing and don't listen to anyone trying to wind you up. Best of luck Link to comment
rachelm 0 Posted May 25, 2010 Member ID: 6,042 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 740 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2014 Birthday: 15/06/1977 Share Posted May 25, 2010 It's the luck of the draw....it's like the question: 'why did my grandfather smoke every day like a chimney and he died of natural causes in his 90s?'....for some things there is no reason. I think you are a responsible and caring pet owner...so you keep doing what you are doing and don't listen to anyone trying to wind you up. Best of luck Yes i agree. Genetics? I'm with Kaz, when i die i want to come back as one of your birds. Link to comment
Ratemymate 0 Posted May 25, 2010 Member ID: 6,051 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 112 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 675 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2010 could the newspaper have anything to do with it? Link to comment
Maddie 0 Posted April 27, 2011 Member ID: 6,580 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 8 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 80 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/02/11 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 1, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2011 could the newspaper have anything to do with it? Don't know if newspaper would have anything to do with it, but just in case the print is dangerous, I use natural white paper towel on the bottom of my budgie's cage. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 27, 2011 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted April 27, 2011 could the newspaper have anything to do with it? Don't know if newspaper would have anything to do with it, but just in case the print is dangerous, I use natural white paper towel on the bottom of my budgie's cage. Maddie..................no different. White paper towel is treated with bleaches anyway. Link to comment
jazzcam77 0 Posted April 12, 2012 Member ID: 7,245 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 33 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 255 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/04/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 26, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I know that mite spray if ued incorrecly with reptiles can kill them maybe its the spray you did use it alot?? Link to comment
Bird Junky 0 Posted April 13, 2012 Member ID: 7,065 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 391 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,185 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/01/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 13, 2013 Birthday: 02/05/1936 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Hello I think you've got all bases covered. How about a full list of their diet . Variety & how often, There might be a deficiency somewhere. Yours B.J. Link to comment
Finnie 0 Posted April 14, 2012 Member ID: 5,135 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,545 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 14,055 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2020 Birthday: 06/08/1965 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Hey folks, just in case you didn't notice, this thread is two years old.... Link to comment
Zingo 0 Posted April 18, 2012 Member ID: 7,091 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 24 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 190 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/01/12 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 12, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Yes okay, i will stop with the mite spray.... But why do my other family members bird live to 9+ years with hardly any care and mine struggle to get to the 5+ years????? Thats why my family say i kill my birds with kindness. Dont know. Maybe birds used to be hardier than they are these days as we breed them further away from the original budgie. Maybe seed used to be better than it is today too I think so too. Budgies 10-15 years ago were healthier. Ive been thinking about the same thing as Cara. Some birds have poor diet, not much to do in the cage and are not flying outside the cage and manage to get old. While you can do everything right (what you believe is right) and your budgies have health problems. I know that feeling. Link to comment
robyn 0 Posted April 20, 2012 Member ID: 5,241 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,887 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 10,750 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 19, 2018 Birthday: 21/12/1946 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Hey folks, just in case you didn't notice, this thread is two years old.... Hi Finnie, It may be an old thread but new people join all the time and may learn something from them, who reads dates first anyway l.o.l (like reading instructions). Only when all else fails. Link to comment
Finnie 0 Posted April 21, 2012 Member ID: 5,135 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,545 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 14,055 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/03/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 18, 2020 Birthday: 06/08/1965 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Hey folks, just in case you didn't notice, this thread is two years old.... Hi Finnie, It may be an old thread but new people join all the time and may learn something from them, who reads dates first anyway l.o.l (like reading instructions). Only when all else fails. Oh sure, I agree. Old threads are great for learning stuff. But when they start asking for details of the diet, it might be good to point out that that owner might not even be around any more to give an answer. Link to comment
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