Introducing...

[sootie 0]

Last week I PM'ed Dave_McMinn asking if he had any pet type budgies for sale as we were looking for a friend for Django. He said he did not, but had a small hen who would be perfect for a pet. A week later after numerous emails back and forth, we have a little hen sitting in quarantine, looking curiously around, who has the sweetest voice.

 

Dave delivered her last night in person and refused to take any money for her or for fuel! I even asked him a few questions about Quiche. So... :bow: thank you so much, Dave! It's just her 2nd night here and she's already responded a little to our soft talking and will take a little bit of millet spray through the cage bars.

 

I don't have any photos of her yet, but these are the ones that Dave sent me last week...

 

 

 

 

As for her name, we decided tonight that it is Sootie. I feel :question: weird about it as it's my nickname here on the board, but she is grey after all and I was outvoted.

Edited May 13, 2010 by sootie

[Dave_McMinn 0]

She is a cutie and I am pleased to see that she is beginning to respond to the millet fed by hand. I do not think she will be too hard to tame and I think she will be a good friend for Django. As for money, I could not accept any - you are giving her a home. I am sure she will be happy there.

 

I am looking forward to hearing more about her and her training, as well as pics of her as she continues to grow.

 

Sootie is a great name for a little grey bird as well.

[**KAZ** 0]

She is real cute :question:

[Finnie 0]

She is very cute. Sootie is a fine name. A lot of us have a user name that is the same as our bird's. :question:

 

cheers, Finnie

[GenericBlue 0]

beautiful little hen

i think you will find out dave has a soft heart

good one dave :question:

she is sweet sootie is perfict

[anne101 0]

She is adorable.. :question: Sootie is a great name.... :bow:

[sootie 0]

Aww, thank you everyone. :question: :bow:

 

She's still a young chick but is responding well. She started eating seed today, which is a good sign as her plops have been watery from fasting. She's been preening, fluffing out feathers, and generally looking contented... all good signs! She's definitely a big cutie pie and she seems to like us as she moves closer when we speak softly next to her cage.

[birdluv 0]

She is a beauty

[Dave_McMinn 0]

Unfortunately things have not gone well for Sootie, in fact, they have gone as bad as they have.

 

About a week ago Sootie stopped eating and was drinking a lot. Sootie was taken to the vet and the vet diagnosed the bird with renal stress. Sootie was given an injection and kept warm, but it seems that some of her organs, probably kidneys, had given up, and she passed away.

 

I have spoken to owner of Sootie, also named Sootie, through email over the week multiple times. As the person who gave her Sootie, I have been feelign terrible. Sootie's brother Monster is fine and shows no illness flying around the aviary. This seems to be a one off case of poor Sootie being born with poor kidneys that just seems to stop working one day.

 

Sootie, the BBC member has been great through this and I am so sorry this has happened. Sometimes these things happen and there is no way we could possibly know in advance. I have offered to make it up to Soote (BBC member) but she has decided to keep Django flying solo at the moment.

 

It is a shame that the life of one so young has been snuffed out by a cruel birth defiency. Farewell Sootie. I am sorry that you were with us all for such a short period of time.

 

[alpaca-boy 0]

oh im so sorry sootie (bbc member)

 

poor little sootie (bird)

so sweet and small

and poor django who lost a friend

 

i am sorry for your loss, good luck will come in the future

and maybe then django can have another mate

 

rip sootie

[GenericBlue 0]

Unfortunately things have not gone well for Sootie, in fact, they have gone as bad as they have.

 

About a week ago Sootie stopped eating and was drinking a lot. Sootie was taken to the vet and the vet diagnosed the bird with renal stress. Sootie was given an injection and kept warm, but it seems that some of her organs, probably kidneys, had given up, and she passed away.

 

I have spoken to owner of Sootie, also named Sootie, through email over the week multiple times. As the person who gave her Sootie, I have been feelign terrible. Sootie's brother Monster is fine and shows no illness flying around the aviary. This seems to be a one off case of poor Sootie being born with poor kidneys that just seems to stop working one day.

 

Sootie, the BBC member has been great through this and I am so sorry this has happened. Sometimes these things happen and there is no way we could possibly know in advance. I have offered to make it up to Soote (BBC member) but she has decided to keep Django flying solo at the moment.

 

It is a shame that the life of one so young has been snuffed out by a cruel birth defiency. Farewell Sootie. I am sorry that you were with us all for such a short period of time.

 

wow dave

so may i ask what exactly causes this renal stress

and is it hereditart ???

im really sorry to both of you

sootie (member )

and you dave i know you must feel bad

 

but its really as you said out of everyones hands

infomation on this would be great though as i have never heard of it

cheers

[sootie 0]

Thanks everyone for your kind words, and thank you Dave especially for being so supportive and caring in the past few days.

 

My partner and I are very upset about Sootie and have come to terms with the fact that we all did what we could and in the end, she had to go. It was a laboured departure but we tried to make her as comfortable as possible, and we kept telling her to let go and be free.

 

Over the last weekend, Sootie was happily jumping around her cage and we even began hand-taming her. It was such a relief to see her adjusting so well and so quickly.

 

She stopped eating on Monday and her health began a downward climb. We monitored her every day and kept a warm lamp on, then took her to the vet on Wednesday. He said that she was stressed and that because she had been drinking so much water (instead of eating seed), her kidneys were strained. Sootie got a penicillin injection and a worming treatment.

 

Later that night around midnight, she finally gave up the fight.

 

I don't know what exactly it was that she died from, but I can say that she was noticeably drinking water frequently in front of us.

 

It was a short week we had with Sootie but we opened our hearts to her and will miss her very much.

 

Jasmin

[GenericBlue 0]

Thanks everyone for your kind words, and thank you Dave especially for being so supportive and caring in the past few days.

 

My partner and I are very upset about Sootie and have come to terms with the fact that we all did what we could and in the end, she had to go. It was a laboured departure but we tried to make her as comfortable as possible, and we kept telling her to let go and be free.

 

Over the last weekend, Sootie was happily jumping around her cage and we even began hand-taming her. It was such a relief to see her adjusting so well and so quickly.

 

She stopped eating on Monday and her health began a downward climb. We monitored her every day and kept a warm lamp on, then took her to the vet on Wednesday. He said that she was stressed and that because she had been drinking so much water (instead of eating seed), her kidneys were strained. Sootie got a penicillin injection and a worming treatment.

 

Later that night around midnight, she finally gave up the fight.

 

I don't know what exactly it was that she died from, but I can say that she was noticeably drinking water frequently in front of us.

 

It was a short week we had with Sootie but we opened our hearts to her and will miss her very much.

 

Jasmin

well if she had adjusted so well i fail to see how she could be stressed

 

im very sorry though for your lose

 

their must have been something wrong with her though as stress just seems so wrong if she was settled to tamming and comppy with you

 

what was the penicillin shot for

sorry you can tell me to shut up if you like i just guess i find it very strange for vet to say stress and give penicillin shot

[sootie 0]

what was the penicillin shot for

sorry you can tell me to shut up if you like i just guess i find it very strange for vet to say stress and give penicillin shot

 

I guess he just thought, Oh a bird just in the first week of quarantine, let me give all the preventative treatments, antibiotics and worming, etc.

 

I'm not very happy with the way he treated her, to be honest. He did a faecal exam, checked her wings, keel bone, etc but didn't think there was anything wrong. He said the faeces portion was normal looking but the excess liquid did seem quite worrying. I felt her keel bone myself before and I knew it was quite pointy. He kept repeating textbook information (much of which I already know from spending time on BBC) and then sent us home.

 

If we had a car I'd have gone up to Carlingford Animal Hospital where I know they are experienced with birds. This vet is the nearest and he especially treats and looks after birds in the clinic even though he's a general vet -- he keeps lots of birds himself and has treated Django twice this year.

 

From my observations the most worrying thing about Sootie from Monday onwards was her consistently wet droppings, like puddles with a bit of green in the centre, and her lethargy. That indicated that she was not eating and not feeling well. Her cere and the feathers above it were okay.

Edited May 21, 2010 by sootie

[GenericBlue 0]

what was the penicillin shot for

sorry you can tell me to shut up if you like i just guess i find it very strange for vet to say stress and give penicillin shot

 

I guess he just thought, Oh a bird just in the first week of quarantine, let me give all the preventative treatments, antibiotics and worming, etc.

 

I'm not very happy with the way he treated her, to be honest. He did a faecal exam, checked her wings, keel bone, etc but didn't think there was anything wrong. He said the faeces portion was normal looking but the excess liquid did seem quite worrying. I felt her keel bone myself before and I knew it was quite pointy. He kept repeating textbook information (much of which I already know from spending time on BBC) and then sent us home.

 

If we had a car I'd have gone up to Carlingford Animal Hospital where I know they are experienced with birds. This vet is the nearest and he especially treats and looks after birds in the clinic even though he's a general vet -- he keeps lots of birds himself and has treated Django twice this year.

 

From my observations the most worrying thing about Sootie from Monday onwards was her consistently wet droppings, like puddles with a bit of green in the centre, and her lethargy. That indicated that she was not eating and not feeling well. Her cere and the feathers above it were okay.

 

 

 

well

im sure she was wormed by dave

i could be wrong but i ivomectom my babys

and birds given or sold

and as you said that poo is lack of eatting and intake of fluid's

sounds to me like the vt was at fault for her death

she should have been crop feed and poo tested for bacteria and fungle before penacillin given

 

just seems very weird

but regardless

im very sorry for your lose and you did do your all

well done on that

[Dave_McMinn 0]

I know that on here we are often critical of vets, and I am the first to jump in, but it seems that the vet did do his best. Could he have done something different? Maybe. There are obviously multiple factors that played a role in this situation.

 

Ultimately, Sootie (BBC) did the right thing taking Sootie(bird) to her vet.

 

Sometimes I think we expect vets to do the impossible. When we go to the doctor, the first thing the doctor says is "what's wrong?" and "where do you feel sick?" Vets do nto have this luxury, there is a lot more guess work. Birds also go downhill a lot faster than people, their ability to cope with illness is not as good, and by the time they actually show signs of illness it is often too late. Imagine if everytime we got a runny now, we were to die in the next 24 hours? Scary hey?

 

Anyone reading this needs to remember that if your bird is sick, regardless of what you read on here, one of the most important things you can do is to take your bird to the vet.

[anne101 0]

Thanks everyone for your kind words, and thank you Dave especially for being so supportive and caring in the past few days.

 

My partner and I are very upset about Sootie and have come to terms with the fact that we all did what we could and in the end, she had to go. It was a laboured departure but we tried to make her as comfortable as possible, and we kept telling her to let go and be free.

 

Over the last weekend, Sootie was happily jumping around her cage and we even began hand-taming her. It was such a relief to see her adjusting so well and so quickly.

 

She stopped eating on Monday and her health began a downward climb. We monitored her every day and kept a warm lamp on, then took her to the vet on Wednesday. He said that she was stressed and that because she had been drinking so much water (instead of eating seed), her kidneys were strained. Sootie got a penicillin injection and a worming treatment.

 

Later that night around midnight, she finally gave up the fight.

 

I don't know what exactly it was that she died from, but I can say that she was noticeably drinking water frequently in front of us.

 

It was a short week we had with Sootie but we opened our hearts to her and will miss her very much.

 

Jasmin

 

 

So sorry Jasmin

 

R.I.P Sweet little Sootie.....

[Houman 0]

cool bird. Sootie is an awsome name, if you translate it to persian apparently it means somone who recked somthing troublemaker ?? lol

Edited May 22, 2010 by Houman

[Dave_McMinn 0]

Houman, did you even read the thread or just write something?

 

Sootie died. Whilst it is not expected that you show any type of grief, typing jokes or making comments that are innappropriate on a thread like this hardly seems appropriate.

[jack 0]

I know that on here we are often critical of vets, and I am the first to jump in, but it seems that the vet did do his best. Could he have done something different? Maybe. There are obviously multiple factors that played a role in this situation.

 

Ultimately, Sootie (BBC) did the right thing taking Sootie(bird) to her vet.

 

Sometimes I think we expect vets to do the impossible. When we go to the doctor, the first thing the doctor says is "what's wrong?" and "where do you feel sick?" Vets do nto have this luxury, there is a lot more guess work. Birds also go downhill a lot faster than people, their ability to cope with illness is not as good, and by the time they actually show signs of illness it is often too late. Imagine if everytime we got a runny now, we were to die in the next 24 hours? Scary hey?

 

Anyone reading this needs to remember that if your bird is sick, regardless of what you read on here, one of the most important things you can do is to take your bird to the vet.

It is sad to lose a bird, but i agree with Dave

 

Jack

[Houman 0]

Houman, did you even read the thread or just write something?

 

Sootie died. Whilst it is not expected that you show any type of grief, typing jokes or making comments that are innappropriate on a thread like this hardly seems appropriate.

 

ohh im so sorry i dont know how i missed that im very sorry everyone sorry sootie .

[sootie 0]

Sootie was buried today in a little park not too far away from us. I still feel sad but my heart's a little lighter now that she's been laid to rest. I'll always remember the image of her sitting on her swing, fluffed up and clucking to herself.

Edited May 23, 2010 by sootie

[birdluv 0]

I just seen this post.

I'm so sorry.