LILBABYBUDGIES 0 Posted May 8, 2010 Member ID: 4,745 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 618 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 15/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 14, 2010 Birthday: 06/11/1994 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Last few nights we all had heard someone or something on our back verandah near where my breeding birds were, yesterday i checked my pairs and one pair who had 5 eggs now had three. i double checked my breeding records and i definitely said this pair had 5 eggs but that's not how many eggs i saw, i saw 3. i spent over an hour looking for discarded eggs or shell or traces of egg on their faces or inside the box but, nothing so the eggs mysteriously had disappeared. it seemed quite odd to me and i didn't want to think that someone had been into my breeding cages but this morning the same thing happened. i went to check the eggs and no longer 3 but 0 eggs in the box. something else alarming had happened for a while before the mysterious egg disappearing happened was the water levels on my breeding cages went empty in a day completely dry. this was happening for a week before the eggs. coincidence, health issues or some one tampering with my birds? to be honest I'm quite concerned. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 8, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted May 8, 2010 You have predators..............you need to find out what in a big hurry before you lose birds as well. Snakes ? Mice ? Rats ? How do your nestboxes open ? Link to comment
LILBABYBUDGIES 0 Posted May 8, 2010 Member ID: 4,745 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 618 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 15/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 14, 2010 Birthday: 06/11/1994 Author Share Posted May 8, 2010 hey kaz, the nest boxes are slide up doors quite heavy to lift.* well no heavy for humans but heavy for an animal Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 8, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted May 8, 2010 (edited) hey kaz, the nest boxes are slide up doors quite heavy to lift. Drill a hole into the door that a nail or screw can sit in to lock down the door from sliding open. Once you know the entry isnt from the sliding doors, then it narrows it down to access through the cages. Lock down all doors....again once you know access isnt from those two ways it will narrow down what can or cant be getting at the eggs. You may have to lay traps, or watch, or put something down to see what footrints or slither marks are going near the cages at night. Werent you going to be putting your breeding cages in your aviary ? The verandah is pretty vulnerable. Edited May 8, 2010 by KAZ Link to comment
LILBABYBUDGIES 0 Posted May 8, 2010 Member ID: 4,745 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 618 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 15/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 14, 2010 Birthday: 06/11/1994 Author Share Posted May 8, 2010 i will be putting breeding cages in the aviary now! my aviary has a lock. i tried putting my breeding cages in the aviary once before but they had fights and many are now missing toes because the other birds would land on top of the cage and peck at the breeding birds, and so the breeding birds in the cage would bite off their toes. Link to comment
*Nerwen* 0 Posted May 8, 2010 Member ID: 5,064 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,817 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,375 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2014 Birthday: 20/02/1982 Share Posted May 8, 2010 well you can solve that issue with wood over the top of the cage or something else so the birds don't attack each other. wish you luck in finding out what is going on Link to comment
robyn 0 Posted May 8, 2010 Member ID: 5,241 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,887 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 10,750 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 19, 2018 Birthday: 21/12/1946 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Hi l.b.b.,any signs of mouse or rat droppings etc around? If you heard something was it just birds in a panic? Try sprinkling say flour or talc around cage area to see if you can spot any tracks. If you have solid dry floor that is. Good luck with it, have you got any eggs left? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 8, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted May 8, 2010 i will be putting breeding cages in the aviary now! my aviary has a lock. i tried putting my breeding cages in the aviary once before but they had fights and many are now missing toes because the other birds would land on top of the cage and peck at the breeding birds, and so the breeding birds in the cage would bite off their toes. I dont mean for you to put them in amongst other flying birds...that wont work. Link to comment
Ratzy 0 Posted May 8, 2010 Member ID: 5,628 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,283 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 8,095 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 22, 2012 Birthday: 26/03/1998 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Wouldn't predators leave traces of egg shells, blood ect? We have an automatic light that turns on when it detects movement, would that work? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 8, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Snakes eat eggs whole. But they also go for birds. Snakes could easily access cages. Small snakes may not go for the birds. There are snakes that are just egg eaters. Bigger snakes would eat the birds. Rats eat eggs and birds. Rats show they have been by leaving bloodied carcasses of the birds. I am not sure about mice and eggs. What other wildlife is around that could be doing this ? Link to comment
Ratzy 0 Posted May 8, 2010 Member ID: 5,628 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,283 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 8,095 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 22, 2012 Birthday: 26/03/1998 Share Posted May 8, 2010 (edited) I meant for if somebody is actually tampering with the birds. LILBABYBUDGIES, are your breeding cages off the ground? Wouldn't the little snakes attack the birds if they were sitting on the eggs? I doubt one little snake could do that. The take days, weeks to digest one meal. They don't hunt in pairs either. All snakes in Vic are deadly and hunt using their poison, appart from the rare Murray- Darling carpet python ( I think its called that ). I don't think there is a snake problem. Edited May 8, 2010 by Ratzy Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted May 8, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted May 8, 2010 were these the eggs that were over due cause if so if the eggs were not firtile mum and dad could of eatten them all what soft food do you give them any veg list all mabe they needed the protin are you feeding boiled eggs hun other wize mice cant be anything else but i had a hen eat her chick not traces of it well it was not her chick was foster but due same day as her infitle egg she eat it no sighn of it been eatten but i dont have mice as first thing i thought was mice so sett traps everywhere clean paper ectra to see poo nothing for two weeks so they may of eatten eggs Link to comment
rachelm 0 Posted May 8, 2010 Member ID: 6,042 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 740 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2014 Birthday: 15/06/1977 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Probably too cold this time of year in Vic to be a snake. Could be wrong. Hope you find out what happened to your eggs. Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted May 8, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Probably too cold this time of year in Vic to be a snake. Could be wrong. Hope you find out what happened to your eggs. dont know about for snakes but to bloo ooooody cold for me Link to comment
rachelm 0 Posted May 8, 2010 Member ID: 6,042 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 740 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,045 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/04/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 29, 2014 Birthday: 15/06/1977 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Probably too cold this time of year in Vic to be a snake. Could be wrong. Hope you find out what happened to your eggs. dont know about for snakes but to bloo ooooody cold for me Me too! And its not even winter yet Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted May 8, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Probably too cold this time of year in Vic to be a snake. Could be wrong. Hope you find out what happened to your eggs. dont know about for snakes but to bloo ooooody cold for me Me too! And its not even winter yet lol yeah you got beach wind brrrrrrrrrrrrrr Link to comment
robyn 0 Posted May 10, 2010 Member ID: 5,241 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,887 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 10,750 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 19, 2018 Birthday: 21/12/1946 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Hi L.B.B., Have you had any more "visitors" to your nests? I hope not but then you'll never know what it was for future ref. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, sort of thing. Link to comment
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