GenericBlue 0 Posted May 5, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted May 5, 2010 How is he today Kaz? He's quiet. I havent seen any feather shredding today. I put him in a cage with two other budgies to see how he gets on. He just went straight to the food dish thats a good sighn isnt it Link to comment
nubbly5 0 Posted May 5, 2010 Member ID: 5,023 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 39 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,608 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 8,635 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 21, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2010 (edited) Giardiasis is an infectious disease caused by a parasite present in the drinking water of many cities. Again, its more common in the US That is very odd Kaz its as if something has just snapped quite suddenly in the birds mind Giardia is canker. Kaz (like the rest of us) do regular canker treatments. Sorry to say Kaz but this is stress related. Seen it in varying forms but never this bad and heard of it as bad as this or worse. Not altogether uncommon. Edit: no scratch that. Had a blonde moment giardia is not canker but also a protazoa like canker and therefore responds to ronivet. Edited May 5, 2010 by nubbly5 Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 6, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted May 6, 2010 Stressed cockbird is fine in the hoilding cage with others for company......hasnt removed any more feathers. Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted May 6, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Share Posted May 6, 2010 good news kaz glad hes carmed down mabe breeding cabnit brought back bad childhood memories ,...lol Link to comment
Houman 0 Posted May 6, 2010 Member ID: 5,901 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 388 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,097 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 28, 2020 Birthday: 01/01/1994 Share Posted May 6, 2010 no... no not the breeding cabnet NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!. :laughter: Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 6, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted May 6, 2010 Maybe he is gay and has yet to come out of the closet :laughter: Link to comment
eve 0 Posted May 27, 2010 Member ID: 5,933 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 23 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 135 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 21, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2010 How's the little guy now? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 27, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted May 27, 2010 How's the little guy now? He is really good. He stopped mutilating his feathers upon removal from the breeding cage and he is in a holding cage with three or four other budgies and he has had no further problems. Link to comment
eve 0 Posted May 27, 2010 Member ID: 5,933 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 23 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 135 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 21, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2010 How's the little guy now? He is really good. He stopped mutilating his feathers upon removal from the breeding cage and he is in a holding cage with three or four other budgies and he has had no further problems. Great! So, I guess it was stress? I've never bred budgie and don't want to. I'm just not set up for all that may happen. I'm so glad they little guy is doing okay now. That picture of him being held by you with his little beak open in protest is so cute. :yes: Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 27, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted May 27, 2010 I had a pair in the breeding cage...no eggs as yet. All going well between the pair.Cock was calm on the perch the last time I saw him. All good. No problems. Late afternoon today and I check them to give some soft food and the cock has begun to strip off all his feathers. He has removed all his wing flights, he has shredded his tail, and he has plucked his chest right down to his down feathers. I pulled him out of the breeder cage and put him in a show cage and watched him. He is jumping all around like a mexican jumping bean, rolling over and grabbing his tail feathers and pulling hard and biting at it and removing and shredding more tail feathers. :yes: No mites, no changes...except now he is acting mentally disturbed and shredding and removing all his feathers. Any ideas ???????????????????????? This has all changed in less than a day. Before and now Here he is today Link to comment
eve 0 Posted May 27, 2010 Member ID: 5,933 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 23 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 135 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 19/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 21, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2010 (edited) His tail fedders all gone......you'll have to call him Bob. :yes: He's a sweetie. I just luv their looks when they've lost their little tail fedders. Edited May 27, 2010 by eve Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 27, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted May 27, 2010 His tail fedders all gone......you'll have to call him Bob. :yes: He's a sweetie. I just luv their looks when they've lost their little tail fedders. Yeah it will take time for him to get his flights and tail feathers back. Chest feathers are all grown in though so its a start Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted May 27, 2010 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted May 27, 2010 (edited) I have seen this twice. Once in a breeding cabinet at a friends place where the cock would pluck out all this flights and body feathers. The other time was a hen in an auction who had ripped out all her tale feathers and flights while fretting in the cage. I would most definitely put the cause as excessive stress or some sort of serious anxiety issue. Birds that are known to be stress cases, I have been told, pass the trait on to their chicks... Edited May 27, 2010 by **Liv** Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 27, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted May 27, 2010 I have seen this twice. Once in a breeding cabinet at a friends place where the cock would pluck out all this flights and body feathers. The other time was a hen in an auction who had ripped out all her tale feathers and flights while fretting in the cage. I would most definitely put the cause as excessive stress or some sort of serious anxiety issue. Birds that are known to be stress cases, I have been told, pass the trait on to their chicks... This can be true in the case of hens stressed in the nestbox and chicks who learn this in the nestbox and squark and dive under each other in panic. I dont know if the same is true of the dads. Most often its the hens that have these issues. Time will tell if he does this all the time when breeding. Maybe after a very long holiday I should let him choose his own hen. Link to comment
Houman 0 Posted May 27, 2010 Member ID: 5,901 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 388 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,097 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 28, 2020 Birthday: 01/01/1994 Share Posted May 27, 2010 yay, how long do tail feathers take to grow back? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 27, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted May 27, 2010 yay, how long do tail feathers take to grow back? Since he didnt lost his tail featrhers but just messed them up, we will have to wait till they moult out and new ones grow in. Link to comment
Ratzy 0 Posted May 27, 2010 Member ID: 5,628 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,283 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 8,095 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 22, 2012 Birthday: 26/03/1998 Share Posted May 27, 2010 What about the flights? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 27, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted May 27, 2010 What about the flights? Since he pulled them straight out they should begin to grow back in soon and may already be doing so. I will have a closer look tomorrow Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted May 27, 2010 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted May 27, 2010 (edited) I'd pull out the ruined tail feathers too, so he looks better faster He would have just finished his April moult so it will be long wait until the next tail change. The next moult is only a head moult i believe Edited May 27, 2010 by **Liv** Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 27, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted May 27, 2010 I'd pull out the ruined tail feathers too, so he looks better faster He would have just finished his April moult so it will be long wait until the next tail change. The next moult is only a head moult i believe There's been a lot said recently from show breeders who pull tails that a pulled feather can often damage the feather follicle and the tail wont regrow. As I have seen this quite often and heard from other breeders about birds with pulled tail feathers never regrowing their tails. I will take the chance and let his regrow in his own good time. Only half my birds did the April moult and others moulted at another time or have yet to moult. I will take the chance. Link to comment
Houman 0 Posted May 27, 2010 Member ID: 5,901 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 388 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,097 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/10 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 28, 2020 Birthday: 01/01/1994 Share Posted May 27, 2010 no need to rush right?, let a bird be a bird as i keep being told by family Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 11, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted July 11, 2010 he is in the aviary and looking better Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted July 11, 2010 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted July 11, 2010 I am glad to see he is looking better. I assume that when he is back to top condition you will give him another go, and see how he goes from there. It is either breed or bust I suppose. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 11, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Author Share Posted July 11, 2010 I am glad to see he is looking better. I assume that when he is back to top condition you will give him another go, and see how he goes from there. It is either breed or bust I suppose. I guess so, or I might have to watch and see if he chooses his own female. Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted July 11, 2010 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted July 11, 2010 If he chooses his own female he might stress less with her. that would be the ideal situation. Link to comment
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