GenericBlue 0 Posted February 11, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Author Share Posted February 11, 2010 okay so here are some pics and just say what you see then i will explain whythese not mum and dad these foster birds it is the lacewing on cage floor these birds not related yet same age i put it in a plastic tub to get a clear picture for you guys but didnt work well so i supplemented it yesterday as it was not feed much okay what do you guys think is it okay or something wrong with it its 4 weeks old it was hatched on jan 4th this year its very light compared to my other chicks and its not got a full crop ever ??? can you see the feathers on its head they part and flop when it puts its blow on is it me or could something be wrong with this chick im hopeing its just a good bird and im on my way however im not to sure I sent these pictures to Ray Welshman,this was hes reply. ///////////// The picture. of the bird You sent does not look like a MOP as the tail feathers are in line with the body, when it is a mop they are usually angled out about 30 degrees or more on each side. They just look natural feathers to me, they appear to have plenty of blood in them I would be more worried about them being french moulters than anything and I don't even think that is the case. thankyou very much for taking your own time to help me pji the bird is still alive however i do still feel something is wrong with it she has been still eatting formula and doesnt seem interested in eatting seed yet although she has been seen to crack it shes growing into her feathers nicely and is very lively still does anyone know how i go about intergrading some seed into her diet as im afraid to add seed to the formula as i cant crack it and dont want to feed her un cracked seed shes been feed on a diet of puraee apples beef baby food for some protin with vegies and formula rearing mix she nibbles bread and greens and i put her out in aviry almost every day where she seems quiet contented her crop seems to be quiet large and low down on this hen and when feeding becomes very big on on side rather than fully so im wondering if its a problem their i will get pics today my son was nice enough to let me use his camera today so will be doing a bird photo shot later Link to comment
the pie 0 Posted February 11, 2010 Member ID: 2,384 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,172 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 7,460 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/06/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 27, 2012 Birthday: 25/08/1981 Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) It's a cutie GB.How's it going? The pics on the benchtop dont look feather duster, just very feathered. More worried it is a weak bird, one that doesnt hold weight well and not a ..(whats the word ) I dont know, vibrant/enthusiastic. They just never seem right when in the aviary.Hopefully a good course of feeding sees this bird right.Good luck mate- the rest look like beauties too You beat me :rofl: Edited February 11, 2010 by the pie Link to comment
splat 0 Posted February 11, 2010 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Has she turned into a feather duster GB or was she just hungry. Is she putting weight on. Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Author Share Posted February 12, 2010 Has she turned into a feather duster GB or was she just hungry.Is she putting weight on. she doesnt seem to be putting weight on but shes kicking along shes a fat little thing to look at but skinny as its not my day for photos today every single one came out stuffed so mabe as its overcast i will try again over weekend weather provided Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted February 12, 2010 does anyone know how i go about intergrading some seed into her diet as im afraid to add seed to the formula as i cant crack it and dont want to feed her un cracked seed feeding budgie starter warm off a bent spoon will help in this case as it contains seeds Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Author Share Posted February 12, 2010 does anyone know how i go about intergrading some seed into her diet as im afraid to add seed to the formula as i cant crack it and dont want to feed her un cracked seed feeding budgie starter warm off a bent spoon will help in this case as it contains seeds :question: thank you so much kaz do you just get that from pet shop i never heard of it to be honest Link to comment
splat 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I get my from petstock, it is passwells (i think that's how it is spell) budgie starter they also have the handrearing formular too. Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Author Share Posted February 12, 2010 I get my from petstock, it is passwells (i think that's how it is spell) budgie starter they also have the handrearing formular too. thanks Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Author Share Posted February 12, 2010 okay i put the chick in aviary again today for a life lesson with other birds she was only interested in eatting wood not seed grr see how low her crop is still eating wood mingling with old clutch partner also in aviry for play and explore for day play group she needs a bath food everywhere more friends one my other lacey chicks okay so their something looks wrong with her to me she is very large but then most my chicks are this time round but she isnt quiet right wont eat even with incorage ment from other chicks out for their dayly aviary time Link to comment
splat 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted February 12, 2010 All you can do GB is leave there or put her in cage and feed her or let her feed herself and let nature take it's coarse. mmmmm hard one isn't. She still looks fairly messy or untidy to me, in the wings etc. Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Author Share Posted February 12, 2010 All you can do GB is leave there or put her in cage and feed her or let her feed herself and let nature take it's coarse. mmmmm hard one isn't.She still looks fairly messy or untidy to me, in the wings etc. she actually isnt messy feathered thats the thing she looks **** their but she needs a bath shes actually quiet a bird bar the fat low crop which seems to put the posture into a flip making her look really bent and bumpy when she sits up though shes perfict crop and all she doesnt have a cage she just sleeps in my room with two other chicks the have a washing basket they have a perch in the all just sleep their they dont try to get out their quiet contented sometimes i come home their on my bed but on good days they all in aviary and i just go in and she comes up to me and i feed her the two othrs feed themselves their just her friends company to try incorage eating Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted February 12, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Considering she tries to chew things like the wood, if you sat her in the middle of a large tray of seed, would she try it ? Link to comment
robyn 0 Posted February 13, 2010 Member ID: 5,241 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,887 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 10,750 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 19, 2018 Birthday: 21/12/1946 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Hi G.B. I'm with Kaz type of "monkey see monkey do" if she's left with other chicks and sees them eating, and Mum doesn't come for a while, maybe she will give it a go. even overnight, so she can feed with others at early morn' pick? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted February 13, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Also she has the appearance of a dehydrated chick to me....one not getting enough food or rehydration. I would put her in a large plastic tub with nothing but seed all over the floor. She will learn to eat seed within 24 hrs if she is so inclined. Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted February 13, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Author Share Posted February 13, 2010 Also she has the appearance of a dehydrated chick to me....one not getting enough food or rehydration. I would put her in a large plastic tub with nothing but seed all over the floor. She will learn to eat seed within 24 hrs if she is so inclined. hi guys well shes in aviary after her first morning feed which is 630 am then she gets feed every hour so shes not dehidrated or hungry she sleeps inside in a washing barskit full of seed on floor in hope she will nibble she only did so once but never since she doesnt copy other chicks as id hoped i dont normally let my chicks in aviary just been putting oldest from all nests in their for the day in hope they show her how to eat its been a really usless event i must say lol they all enjoyed playing though so ... i bathed her today and she looks so much better i tryed to take pics but every time i took one this massive yellow arua surounded her and you cant actually see her looks like shes radioactive lol so i will try get pics tomorrow see if she stops glowing i will try not feeding her tonight her last feed was 830 pm shes due now and wanting one so i put her on her seed but she just looking at me like what the h e l l is this shes proning and chirping starting to get the narky hen aditude also to day even if i have to feed her for rest of her days shes to personality not to so... im thinking vet tripto see if he can tell me whats up if she makes it to 8 weeks still not eatting seeds shes only 5 weeks so bit more of a chance but will cut feeds back to morning then 10 am then 4 pm then 10 pm then 630 am so on see if that makes her want to crack the seed i will keep you informed Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted February 14, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted February 14, 2010 also she has the appearance of a dehydrated chick to me....One not getting enough food or rehydration. I would put her in a large plastic tub with nothing but seed all over the floor. She will learn to eat seed within 24 hrs if she is so inclined. hi guys well shes in aviary after her first morning feed which is 630 am then she gets feed every hour so shes not dehidrated or hungry she sleeps inside in a washing barskit full of seed on floor in hope she will nibble she only did so once but never since she doesnt copy other chicks as id hoped i dont normally let my chicks in aviary just been putting oldest from all nests in their for the day in hope they show her how to eat its been a really usless event i must say lol they all enjoyed playing though so ... I bathed her today and she looks so much better i tryed to take pics but every time i took one this massive yellow arua surounded her and you cant actually see her looks like shes radioactive lol so i will try get pics tomorrow see if she stops glowing i will try not feeding her tonight her last feed was 830 pm shes due now and wanting one so i put her on her seed but she just looking at me like what the h e l l is this shes proning and chirping starting to get the narky hen aditude also to day even if i have to feed her for rest of her days shes to personality not to so... Im thinking vet tripto see if he can tell me whats up if she makes it to 8 weeks still not eatting seeds shes only 5 weeks so bit more of a chance but will cut feeds back to morning then 10 am then 4 pm then 10 pm then 630 am so on see if that makes her want to crack the seed i will keep you informed i had one like this chick that wouldnt eat either and had to crop feed. I kept reducing the amount of feeds down to just twice a day........morning and night feeds. Chick was in with the kindie cage babies. One evening I went to feed it and it had a full crop of seeds :happy-dancing: Here is my little slow starter...... and now as mine started out like yours..........I have hopes for yours to turn out well. Link to comment
Ratzy 0 Posted February 14, 2010 Member ID: 5,628 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,283 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 8,095 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 22, 2012 Birthday: 26/03/1998 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I hope that happens with GB. Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted February 14, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 thanks kaz shes been in aviary all day today with no feed still nothing in crop so will feed at 6 if still empty Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted February 24, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 okay a update on my lacewing chick its names now fred fred as she looks like a big cave man fred still needs dayly feeds still wont eat seed but i can not put her down as my daughter has decided to do a sharlots web on me and im not allowed to kill it just because its deformed shes in love so she now feeds fred and i just mix the food she lives in her room and still has no cage but we brought to other babys both flightless from other breedings and now i have three random budgies walking the halls but shes in i must admit shes a bit cute although very ugly she comes running out to kitchen every time she hears the jug boil as she knows her foods comming i do lunch time feed while daughter at school she is happy and cherps still gives addatude and often just walks up to you and just stares like a puppy till you give her a rub so thats fred i will get picture of her when i find my camra yes i lost it grr shes healthy bar she just wont eat for herself oh and she did have fm so... i remember someone saying she looked like a molter they got someones advice (opinion) for me they were spot on Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted February 24, 2010 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted February 24, 2010 I am glad she is still going Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted February 24, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 well she is and very strong its quiet funny really as she has bet all odds a fighter like myself i guess lol ive met my match Link to comment
Ratzy 0 Posted February 25, 2010 Member ID: 5,628 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,283 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 8,095 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 22, 2012 Birthday: 26/03/1998 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Glad she hung in there. I'm on the same page as your daughter. My silky chick is deformed and we saved a sheep from certain death and it is still here (we raised her), lol. Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted February 25, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) Glad she hung in there. I'm on the same page as your daughter. My silky chick is deformed and we saved a sheep from certain death and it is still here (we raised her), lol.well looks like im going to be feeding a deformed lacewing for its whole life im going to need to start vitamizing soft food as it wont even eat bread or anything it just waits for me to siringe feed it twice a day grr Edited February 26, 2010 by KAZ Link to comment
Ratzy 0 Posted February 26, 2010 Member ID: 5,628 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,283 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 8,095 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/09/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 22, 2012 Birthday: 26/03/1998 Share Posted February 26, 2010 (edited) Why don't you teach your daughter how to feed it? Edited February 26, 2010 by KAZ Link to comment
GenericBlue 0 Posted February 26, 2010 Member ID: 4,737 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,156 Content Per Day: 0.92 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,240 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2021 Birthday: 08/09/1973 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 I think you accidently quoted me twice, GB. Why don't you teach your daughter how to feed it? i did lol um she can feed it but you know kids they want these things but ..... so im the one with the job Link to comment
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