My Pairs

[Squeak_Crumble 0]

HI Guys

okay, I am facing a bit of a crisis/bad situation. I have never bred or paired show budgies before, and I am REALLY unsure on what to do. I am looking at breeding a cinnamon line, and maybe a TCB or Lacewing line. Then birds I have are mainly from culls, so they aren't the best but they seem okay to me (which doesn't mean much). So would you guys please help me to pair these birds up?

 

Here is my total collection of Show types (excuse the names)

White Opaline Cinnamon Lacewing hen ( I think...may need to check) Markings are poor.

 

YF Grey Cock. Short flights, I got him as a freebie

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd279/S...cs/RIMG2421.jpg

 

Heavy Marked Clearwing Violet Cock

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd279/S...cs/RIMG0004.jpg

 

Sky Blue Cock with violet bloom

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd279/S...cs/DSCF0500.jpg

 

Light Green Spangle Cinnamon split Lacewing Cock

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd279/S...cs/DSCF0070.jpg

 

Rec. Pied Cinnamon Hen.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd279/S...cs/DSCF0525.jpg

 

Opaline TCB Cock

 

These are awful photo's but

YF Cinnamon Grey Hen

WF Cinnamon Grey Cock

 

Another of above cock:

http://www.aussiepinball.com/Tony/Photo014.jpg

 

Thankyou

Squeak_Crumble

Edited December 4, 2009 by KAZ

[Squeak_Crumble 0]

Some help please?

[Dave_McMinn 0]

You have not actually paired anything up. What would you like us to say?

[Squeak_Crumble 0]

I know I haven't paired anything up. I was wondering, if these were your birds, who would you pair up?

 

So would you guys please help me to pair these birds up?

[Linda_S 0]

You have 6 cocks and 3 hens pictured, I don't know a lot about TCBs so I can't really tell you what would be best there but I would suggest to read up on the Breeding Outcomes of the different varieties to help give you a better idea of what you should do mutations/colour wise.

 

If they were mine I'd pair the

 

Grey Cinnamon Cock to the Lacewing Hen

 

Sky Blue Cock to Recessive Hen

 

and either the yf grey cock or the split lacewing spangle to the cinnamon yellow face hen.

[GenericBlue 0]

okay

 

if it was me

and im not going on quality here just out come rezults

i would pair the lacewing hen with the split lace wing cock

this will give you yellow lacewing hens and possably cocks

all none lacewing cocks will be split lacewing and normal hens also

 

off top of head that is i could be wrong

also the chicks will be split to blue so makeing breeding lacewings easyer in future if wanting both or one colour produced

if cock is split blue you may get white or yellow lacewings

 

 

i would pair the yf cin hen

with

the grey yf cock

these birds look both resonable

first picture

giving greys with yf and split cin and possably a df yellow face

 

these are provided cocks split to nothing you could get more the fun in breeding

beter pics would help

 

and then your rec pie hen

two the sky blue cock bird

giving you split rec pied cocks and hens split to blue

 

theirs better you could do but with out better pics of birds and their real length stance so on i cant reallly visualize an out come in aperiance of bubys

hope that helps though

[Squeak_Crumble 0]

Thankyou!

 

I have the Grey Cin. Cock to the Grey Cin. Hen.

I have the Rec. Cin. Hen to Spangle Cin. Cock

I have the Lacewing hen to sky cock. (The reason for this pairing is to try and get some length in the chicks, as the cock is quite long and the hen is a bit bigger in her body)

I did have the Rec. Hen to the Sky cock, but they weren't breeding.

 

Does anyone know if any of these chicks could be showed?

Edited December 3, 2009 by Squeak_Crumble

[GenericBlue 0]

are you a member of aclub or do u have rings

as only birds with rings can be shown

 

apart from that any bird can be shown

as long as it has a ring and is in the right class

 

by way i think your texis is by far best pictured their

thats not to say he is your best bird just best picture

 

the reason i said the lacewing to / lacewing was so you could get more lacewings and work from their at breeding more and better

 

the blue cock is nice but you shouldnt breed blue to white lacewing as you will get very blue shine in chicks

 

i would rethink this move'

 

even the texis would be better you will get a texis hen from that pairing and texis cocks but the cocks would be split lacewing

not good way to continue breeding them but good way to get a few texis hens and cull the cocks

 

 

honestly i would get a nice hen for him specially though

and put your lacewing to cin grey to get the lenght

[Richo 0]

Why don't you let them pair up? I read in a recent scientific jornal that opposites as in colour do not attract. Better reproduction rates are likely if they dig each other... fair dinkum...

[GenericBlue 0]

Why don't you let them pair up? I read in a recent scientific jornal that opposites as in colour do not attract. Better reproduction rates are likely if they dig each other... fair dinkum...

 

as true as this is

and i do believe it is

with show breeding its not to do with color its all about features and molding that perfect bird

so letting them pair goes against the politics of breeding for bloodline and quality im guessing

 

mind you i have no clue really why if all your birds were of top standed and complimented one another why you could not let the pairing take place naturally ??????

can anyone enlighten me on why show birds are percifically paired to produce other than mutation control and fetcher quality

 

stupid question i know but

[Squeak_Crumble 0]

So I should Put Texas with The white lacewing, and then put the sky blue cock to the YF Cin. Grey Hen? Then I put the WF Grey Cock to the Rec.Pied Hen? She has a very flat blow, and I like the Cin.Grey cock's blow.

 

So If I do put the TCB to the white lacewing, I will get some visual TCB cocks and hens

[Squeak_Crumble 0]

Also, on the pairing natrually, I agree with you guys (in a way). All my pet type's have paired natrually, but with my show ones they really do have good taste at all. I had my biggest, gorgeous hen pair herself to a pet type! She was my best, $50 I spent on her at an auction. Gorgeous Light Green Cin. Hen. She got away unfortunately.

 

And yes , I do have rings on my show birds and I have rings for the chicks

[Squeak_Crumble 0]

Okay, I have decided on the following pairs

Opaline Green TCB Cock X White Opaline Lacewing Hen

YF Light Green Cinnamon Spangle split Lacewing Cock X YF Cinnamon Grey Hen.

WF Cinnamon Grey Cock X YF Recessive Pied Cinnamon Hen

 

Some more pictures. Some of them are not as good. Some of them are.

TCB Cock//Gorgeous Cheek patches, a little dark and unclear. Taken inside box

 

TCB Cock// of course as soon as the camera was out of the box he wanted to buff up and show off.

 

WF Cinnamon Grey Cock// Just a clear shot of head and cheeks. He was a little bitey.

 

YF Cin. Green Cock// He is a lovley boy.

 

The New Pairs:

Rec. Pied Hen X Cinnamon Grey Cock

 

Cinnamon Grey Hen X Gren Cin. Spangle Cock

 

TCB Cock X Lacewing Hen

[GenericBlue 0]

are these your only show type birds ??

 

do you have a plan of what you want to breed ???

 

or more for fun than trying to breed persifice mutations

 

oh by way i think you paired okay when it comes to evening out quality's :rofl:

just mutations that have me

but then im preatty straigh down the line like to know what im getting

you will get lots of suprizes

[Squeak_Crumble 0]

I am trying to breed some TCB's, some nice Cinnamon Grey and Green's. I am planning on basing my birds aroung these 4 cinnamons, and another hen I am getting from Liv. I can post a picture if you want.

 

I am planning on breeding the sky cock to a violet/sky hen I am getting of Liv, and these should have some nice sky's and violets.

I also have a Clearwing Violet Cock, A YF Normal Grey cock and one other I think in the aviary, otherwise all my birds are in the pairs I just posted yesterday.

[GenericBlue 0]

I am trying to breed some TCB's, some nice Cinnamon Grey and Green's. I am planning on basing my birds aroung these 4 cinnamons, and another hen I am getting from Liv. I can post a picture if you want.

 

I am planning on breeding the sky cock to a violet/sky hen I am getting of Liv, and these should have some nice sky's and violets.

I also have a Clearwing Violet Cock, A YF Normal Grey cock and one other I think in the aviary, otherwise all my birds are in the pairs I just posted yesterday.

 

okay then you need to think about what you want to breed most and then assess what birds you have that can get you their

what you dont have thats needed

sell of the ones you dont need good or not and get in ones that will benifit the type your breeding for

i just finished doing this today and i have half the birds than i started with and a few good ones gone :question: but in long run i will be better off

[Squeak_Crumble 0]

I am thinking about selling the clearwing cock. As much as he is a nice bird, he is all body and no head, and I don't particularly want to breed clearwings because they are dilute's.

[Dave_McMinn 0]

leave clearwings to experienced breeders, trust me, I was where you were once, and that $ the choice i made

[GenericBlue 0]

send him to rip lol

[Squeak_Crumble 0]

any one can have him if they want I hardly noticed he was a clearwing when I got him, I had never looked at dilutes closely or had one, and I only found out after that he was a clearwing, not greywing! I don't know if it would be worth seeing what chicks he got with the violet/sky blue hen I am getting from Liv. Maybe just one clutch.....

[Dave_McMinn 0]

you would get all blue chicks.

 

TO get clearwings, you need to breed a clearwing to a clearwing, or a clearwing to a normal that is split for clearwing. The clearwing gene is recessive.

[Squeak_Crumble 0]

So does that mean he may be worth keeping? If I just kept any hens and sell the cocks that are split clearwing?

[**KAZ** 0]

YF Light Green Cinnamon Spangle

WF Cinnamon Grey Cock

 

 

 

WF Cinnamon Grey Cock// Just a clear shot of head and cheeks. He was a little bitey.

 

YF Cin. Green Cock// He is a lovley boy.

 

 

 

Why do you say WF and YF for these guys ...............

YF Cin. Green Cock

WF Cinnamon Grey Cock

if you mean white face for the grey and yellowface for the green....that is normal for them to have white face and a yellow face. It can be confusing to say YF for the green as she isnt a yellowface at all.

Edited December 5, 2009 by KAZ

[Squeak_Crumble 0]

Sorry, it is just a habit I am in on syaing it. A blue could be YF or WF, So I normally just say what they are. Sorry's