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Today we won our first Best In Show down at South-West Budgie Club! :rofl:

 

I say first because e-ven-tu-al-ly we would like to win another .... in many years time! :rofl:

 

Now before you all get too excited I need to clarify that neither Cec and Brenda Gearing nor Gary and Dolores Armstrong showed birds today so numbers were down in the Open Grade :rofl:

 

And before you ask all birds are back in their aviaries tucking into their soft food so photos of this Young Double Factor will follow in due course- though as you all know by now you can expect another **** photo that does him no justice from me! :P

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Awesome news there Renee, congratulations!

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Great job :rofl: But we do need photos :P

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Congrats Renee, what a wonderful accomplishment :P

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Good work Renee :P That means your certainly heading in the right direction :rofl:

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Good work Renee B) That means your certainly heading in the right direction :D

 

Well fingers crossed Hamish! He is still only a Young bird and I need to wait till he goes through another moult and grows up more so it will be Feb/March before I really knowing for sure (about the 9 months stage), plus I need to see more like him flying around .... have a few I'm keeping an eye on, mainly Spangles and those ubiquitous Greygreen Cinnamons I bred way too many of .... oh and a little ripsnorter of a chickie that took out best Novice UBC today - another of those Australian YF mutants .... so no more showing for her as she is a Non Standard Variety but hopefully she'll grow on to become a good breeder.

 

Yeah :P :rofl: :rofl: all round! :rofl:

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I had the pleasure to judge at this show with Cec Gearing judging the final best in show awards.

 

The DF was the standout bird in Novice and showed himself off nicely, nice deportment, good shoulder a good overall bird which Renee should be proud of.

 

Umm and having judged the UBC - she is a dark green not an Australian yellow face - going on the genetics (according to "A guide to colour mutation & genetics in parrots) she may well be split yellowface (bred from an Australian YF) but she is not yellowface herself - so no reason to not put her into the normal green variety class. Even if you are in the school of thought that says green MASKING yf (which is apparently NOT correct) then she is still a green and will not show that heavy green suffusion through blue body colour which is why WA does not allow single factor Aussie yellow faces (Golden faces in other words) into the YF class.

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Congratulations Renee :P :rofl: :rofl:

 

Looking forward to photos :rofl:

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thats good its nice feeling knowing you have archived to better your birds :P good going mate :D

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Umm and having judged the UBC - she is a dark green not an Australian yellow face - going on the genetics (according to "A guide to colour mutation & genetics in parrots) she may well be split yellowface (bred from an Australian YF) but she is not yellowface herself - so no reason to not put her into the normal green variety class. Even if you are in the school of thought that says green MASKING yf (which is apparently NOT correct) then she is still a green and will not show that heavy green suffusion through blue body colour which is why WA does not allow single factor Aussie yellow faces (Golden faces in other words) into the YF class.
Well to be perfectly honest I hadn't paid too much attention to her before yesterday, I mean yes I was very happy with her development and so on so forth but that's about it. I will wait till she goes through a moult and then re-assess. :D
thats good its nice feeling knowing you have archived to better your birds :P good going mate :D
You are so spot on with that! That is exactly what it is all about - at least it is for me! :)

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umm and having judged the ubc - she is a dark green not an australian yellow face - going on the genetics (according to "a guide to colour mutation & genetics in parrots) she may well be split yellowface (bred from an australian yf) but she is not yellowface herself - so no reason to not put her into the normal green variety class. Even if you are in the school of thought that says green masking yf (which is apparently not correct) then she is still a green and will not show that heavy green suffusion through blue body colour which is why wa does not allow single factor aussie yellow faces (golden faces in other words) into the yf class.
well to be perfectly honest i hadn't paid too much attention to her before yesterday, i mean yes i was very happy with her development and so on so forth but that's about it. I will wait till she goes through a moult and then re-assess. :P

 

So what was the UBCs parents then Renee ? And where are the photos so we can see these beauties :D

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yes picture would be nice

was she bred from your own stock or brought stock :P

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Congrats and agree with the others! Pictures please!

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okay, as promised.

 

First of all my DF Yellow Spangle boy

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Now I've checked back and these guys were featured in my breeding journal earlier in the year in post on 2 June 09 ... so he's not 4 1/2 months old as I thought but 5 1/2. His Mum I bred in 08.

 

Here's a photo of his Dad:

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I won this guy in a raffle down at SWBC! He was bred by Fran and John McLoughlin and comes out of a Barry White bird. He is one of my foundation Spangle boys and earlier I tried selling him at this year's SWBC auction as he is related to most of the Spangles I have kept but nobody wanted him! ... and here was I thinking he would make an excellent addition to any up and coming Novices breeding program ... :P I will never offer him up again!

 

Here is my little UBC girl:

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I reckon she is going to be quite something when she grows up but right now I don't think she is a natural "show bird", have a look at the way she is sitting on the perch .... way too upright, she needs to be out at a 30 degree angle. :)

 

And this is the thing about Show Budgies, at least for me, what I really look for in a budgie is the natural show birds ... you put them in a show box and within a couple of minutes they find the perch and sit right up off it - and blow! :D

 

I have a couple of absolutely beautiful birds but when you put them into a show box the pull in their feathers and hunch over the perch ... NOT good! But they photo wonderfully well ... :D

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Congratulations Renee :P Well done :D

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Here is my little UBC girl:

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I reckon she is going to be quite something when she grows up but right now I don't think she is a natural "show bird", have a look at the way she is sitting on the perch .... way too upright, she needs to be out at a 30 degree angle. :P

 

you sure she is a she ? Looking purplish there like a boy ....might be the colour monitor thing...whats "she " look like in "real life" ?

 

PS good thing you got to take the DF spangle's Dad home after that auction eh :D

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you sure she is a she ? Looking purplish there like a boy ....might be the colour monitor thing...whats "she " look like in "real life" ?

 

PS good thing you got to take the DF spangle's Dad home after that auction eh :P

 

Well Kaz, as you know I do not sex my birds until they grow up and "show" me who they are .... but yesterday everyone was referring to "her" so I have deferred to their superior knowledge :D so she will be her till further notice!

 

Actually I feel quite ambivilent about the Dad ... my gain, somebody else's loss is how I see it. As you can see from the photos Dad is a big, strong bird but he is lacking a proper "blow".

 

Now so far the Young bird has a lovely deep mask but he too does not have a blow proportionate to his mask - yet. So fingers and toes are crossed that when he goes through his next moult he will develop a bigger blow, his Mum's wasn't too bad so we will see.

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First of all my DF Yellow Spangle boy

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you can see he is better than dad in blow already renee

i dont understand if he isa foundation cock and related to most your spangle stock

why you tryed to sell

that would be more of a reason to keep him wouldnt you think :P

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She sure looked like a she yesterday - but then I've been tricked before :P

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First of all my DF Yellow Spangle boy

P1010184.jpg

 

 

you can see he is better than dad in blow already renee

i dont understand if he isa foundation cock and related to most your spangle stock

why you tryed to sell

that would be more of a reason to keep him wouldnt you think :P

 

Well this may come as a bit of a surprise to you but I am not such a great believer in 'line breeding' - yet. I am pretty strict about keeping 'families' together but at this stage of my breeding I am putting together a better bird, when I get that bird I will line breed but in my opinion none of my birds have got there yet.

 

A perfect example is this bird, the Dad. I have used him to get the shape and deportment of a foundation Spangle/ DF bird but from then on I need to put a top end on him. When I have 4-5 birds like that (hopefully next year's chickies) THEN I will start to line breed - but to put any of my current birds back to him next year would just reinforce his good size and shape but more importantly his lack of blow .... and I do not want to have that in one of my "prepotent" birds, ie. a bird that consistently chucks chicks like him.

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Renee I am line breeding from one cock and this bird has not let me down but he is a great bird but I do have 2 lines going as I am breeding my own outcrosses.

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Renee I am line breeding from one cock and this bird has not let me down but he is a great bird but I do have 2 lines going as I am breeding my own outcrosses.

 

this too is also what im doing

i have just staeted though

 

you are right renee in the fact that you need a bird thats through n out good chicks better than self

but what i dont understand is if your keeping family's for what reason

the practice of putting a bird most like its mother

or most like its father (but better ) is to bring out faults so you can see what you will be dealing with if anything

sometimes no faults suffice and your get superior chick

 

its also so you can biuld one a certain birds potency for features

 

i am with splat i breed my own out crosses

this way i know exactly whats going on in my flock and exactly whats going into each bird genetically and look wize :P

 

i will be bringing birds in now and again but from original breeders and from same genetic line when poss

i know this may not always be poss but will get their when that happens

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Meaning GB that one cock is my foundation cock for my main line. I have put several hens with him and then bred from there. He is the father of my violets, grandfather of my Df spangles etc, you could call him prepotent

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