toohp 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Member ID: 4,209 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 655 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 14, 2023 Device: Windows Share Posted July 14, 2009 My bird seems a little quiet & moody and her droppings have changed to this real long type worm dropping , can anyone Identify what's possibly wrong if at all with this type of dropping ? Link to comment
LILBABYBUDGIES 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Member ID: 4,745 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 618 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 15/10/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 14, 2010 Birthday: 06/11/1994 Share Posted July 14, 2009 look i really have no idea when it comes to poo lol but im sure you will recive some great advice im sorry i am no help. Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2009 We are not vets on here and can't diagnosis your bird but I can tell you that the dropping do not look normal. Has she had a diet change? Any new fruits and veggies that you have introduced within the last 24 hours? Is she molting at all? Has she been seeming more flirty and wanting to nest in different areas? If you are concerned then I would book an avian vet appointment to be sure she is okay and save some of the dropping for him to examine. Any bird that has a drastic change in behavior is most likely sick. Link to comment
mattdog2 0 Posted July 14, 2009 Member ID: 5,243 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 649 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,690 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2010 Birthday: 13/08/1992 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Yes, consult a vet, and keep that dropping for he/she to examine... he/she will know what is wrong with him. Link to comment
toohp 0 Posted July 16, 2009 Member ID: 4,209 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 655 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 14, 2023 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 16, 2009 I posted a question the other day re my birds droppings , I awoke today to find she wouldn't eat anything then within 1 hr she had got so bad she lost balance & grip of her perch lucky I put my hand in quickly enough as she fell backwards and she landed in my hand . This dosn't look good . I'd take her to the vet but in the last two visits to the vet he said I don't think there's anymore we can do for Fluff due to the two tumours she has , she's been sick on and off over the last year or more in hospital twice , amazingly she rally's and comes good but this time it looks real bad . I put her on the bottom of her cage on a soft towel in front of her favorite mirror which she was clinging onto and made sure she was warm , she just laid there struggerling to breath and hold her eyes open . I gave her some water and she drank quite a bit , I then gave her some budgie grass which she nibbled on and within 20 mins she picked up a bit enough to show me she wanted to go back up to her top perch . She's been ther all day eyes' mostly closed and breathing quite heavy , Ive noticed the tumours look a bit bigger especialy the one near her vent , I'm afraid if I take her to the vet he will either say there's no more we can do or if he puts her in Hospital that's where she may die and I rather her pass away at home in her favorite room with her toys etc . Am I wrong about this ? At present she has her head under her wing and breathing very heavilly whilst clinging to her mirror , she wont eat or drink anymore . I'll be supprised if she get's over this , my poor little girl . Link to comment
renee 0 Posted July 16, 2009 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Poor Fluff, it sounds like her days are numbered. Just try to keep her warm and provide all her favorite foods. If you know how to crop feed you could try that too. Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted July 16, 2009 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Awe, I agree with Renee, you do what your heart tell you do to. Keep her really warm this really helps them rally. Link to comment
toohp 0 Posted July 17, 2009 Member ID: 4,209 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 655 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 14, 2023 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 Ive taken my bird to the vet where they are going to take a blood test , the dropping swab tested extremely high abnormal bacteria , so they have kept her in overnight . Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 17, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted July 17, 2009 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2009 keep us updated, I hope all is okay Link to comment
toohp 0 Posted July 18, 2009 Member ID: 4,209 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 655 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 14, 2023 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 18, 2009 Got the blood results back today unfortunatly not good news , one of the counts in the blood came back extremely high @ 9000 ,normal is around the 375 , vet say's this is seen in birds with liver problems and has never seen a reading this high , vets going to go ahead and treat with some medication as there migh be another thing hapening as well but reading between the lines sounds like I may not have her for all that much longer , strangly thou Fluff looks okay but is still not eating and is being crop feed and will stay in hospital for another day or two . Knowing Fluff she will rally and stay around for quite some time yet - here's hoping . I'll keep you posted , thanks for your kind word & support . Cheers Toohp Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 18, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Do you know how to crop feed yourself...................you may have to learn. Link to comment
toohp 0 Posted July 18, 2009 Member ID: 4,209 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 655 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 14, 2023 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 18, 2009 No I don't know how to crop feed and I agree I might have to learn , won't be easy as I even have trouble giving medication through the syringe , biggest problem is holding my bird , she always seems to squirm loose . I watched the vid clip today actually , best I watch a few more times . I'll ask the vet to show me how to hold my bird . As a first time bird owner I can't believe how attached Ive become to my bird - Dam , makes it hard when they get sick . Thanks Toohp Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 18, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 18, 2009 No I don't know how to crop feed and I agree I might have to learn , won't be easy as I even have trouble giving medication through the syringe , biggest problem is holding my bird , she always seems to squirm loose . I watched the vid clip today actually , best I watch a few more times . I'll ask the vet to show me how to hold my bird . As a first time bird owner I can't believe how attached Ive become to my bird - Dam , makes it hard when they get sick . Thanks Toohp At the next vet visit, ask to be shown how to crop feed. I think you are going to need to learn this skill sooner rather than later Link to comment
bird_paradise 0 Posted July 18, 2009 Member ID: 4,298 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 95 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 804 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,615 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2010 Birthday: 09/11/1994 Share Posted July 18, 2009 any update on Fluff? Link to comment
toohp 0 Posted July 19, 2009 Member ID: 4,209 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 655 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 14, 2023 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 Update - I have my bird back home Fluff 's so happy to be home in her cage , she's resting now but she's done the round's of rubbing herself over all her toy's . Down side is she has liver problems , upside is Ive got her for however long again, everyday is a blessing . I have to give her several types of medications & got a demo of how to hold my bird again so hopefully I won't have too many problems like Ive had the past . A big thanks again to Pat Macwhirter , Phil Sacks & all the staff at Highbury vet clinic there fantastic down there :rofl: Cheers Toohp Link to comment
toohp 0 Posted July 19, 2009 Member ID: 4,209 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 655 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 14, 2023 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 Ive just tried to admin the medicine and made a complete mess of it , I continue to have problems holding my bird properly , my birds looking worst for wear from the stressfull experience , she's all wonky on her feet all fluffed up and not looking too good at all. Dam not happy . :rofl: Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted July 19, 2009 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted July 19, 2009 You have to get thsoe meds in. Be firm. You can do it!!!! Link to comment
toohp 0 Posted July 19, 2009 Member ID: 4,209 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 655 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 14, 2023 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 I tried again no good and my bird is worst , seems like the stress has effected her ? I'll contact the vet in the morning but I fear the worst by then , It wasn't the antibiotics it was only the food supplement mixture I had to get into as she still hasn't eaten , at the vets they were crop feeeding her . Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 19, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 19, 2009 (edited) As soon as you can go back and ask to be taught to crop feed. Also when trying to get meds or food into a birds beak some people forget to pay attention to where they are gripping the bird....squeezing accidentally around the crop area can force crop contents up and they can be swallowed again the wrong way or aspirated.....which may have occurred this time. For you to be happy and comfortable treating her you need to insist on helpful lessons from the vet. INSIST on being taught to crop feed......you really do need to know how. Edited July 19, 2009 by KAZ Link to comment
toohp 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Member ID: 4,209 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 655 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: September 14, 2023 Device: Windows Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 woke this morning my bird survived the night but no improvement , spoke with the vet he suggested I put her to sleep or try two more days in hospital under proper care but I'm only prolonging the outcome as he looked at the test results and said it looks bad . She sitting in her cage eyes close head tilted back & breathing heavy , I tried again this morning giving her the medication but once again I didn't do a very good job . I can tell she likes her enviroment here so do I let her pass away here or there's a big chance she will pass away in the hospital cage or have her put down today ? Vet suggested not to let her pass at home as she may be in some pain . I have to call him back in a few hours and make a decision . This is so so hard . Link to comment
mattdog2 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Member ID: 5,243 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 649 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,690 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/04/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 18, 2010 Birthday: 13/08/1992 Share Posted July 20, 2009 (edited) Aww you poor thing, I would do what's best for him, if he's in pain then put him down, by the heavy breathing he could have respiratory problems also... hate to say it but putting him down is most likely the best choice. Edited July 20, 2009 by mattdog2 Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted July 20, 2009 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I am not one to see any animal suffer. i think it is our responsibility to euthanase when we have to. I know is $ hard to do, emotionally, but it is for the best. Link to comment
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