Richo 0 Posted April 7, 2009 Member ID: 5,074 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 392 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,415 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/02/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 27, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2009 I believe there is no harm in treating with ivermectin even if there is nothing to treat... people do it as a precaution all the time, don't they? ? Link to comment
splat 0 Posted April 8, 2009 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Yes I do regularly Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 8, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I use spot on for all incoming birds as a precaution YES Link to comment
Jen144 0 Posted April 8, 2009 Member ID: 4,580 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 707 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/08/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 30, 2015 Birthday: 14/04/1995 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 So how do you put the ivermectin on the bird? Some on the back of their neck or in their beak? I was told it worms them as well so I will do my other birds with it soon too. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 8, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted April 8, 2009 What kind have you got ? The spot on is for the back of the neck...part the feathers and put one drop in the skin. Link to comment
Jen144 0 Posted April 8, 2009 Member ID: 4,580 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 707 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/08/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 30, 2015 Birthday: 14/04/1995 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 It's ivermectin and I have to put one drop in their beak once a week for 6 weeks, for scaly face. That is exactly what the vet told me. Link to comment
CaspersRose 0 Posted April 8, 2009 Member ID: 2,008 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 560 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,390 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 19, 2010 Birthday: 01/05/1981 Share Posted April 8, 2009 It's ivermectin and I have to put one drop in their beak once a week for 6 weeks, for scaly face. That is exactly what the vet told me. Normally it is a one off treatment - a drop on the back of the budgies neck (just like putting Frontline on your cat or dog!), but if the vet has said to do it that way over several weeks then perhaps what you've been given is a different preparation in which case follow the vet's instructions. Link to comment
Jen144 0 Posted April 8, 2009 Member ID: 4,580 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 707 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/08/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 30, 2015 Birthday: 14/04/1995 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 Does that still worm them? Link to comment
Pearce 0 Posted April 8, 2009 Member ID: 4,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,475 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 14,280 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/06/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 7, 2011 Birthday: 21/04/1991 Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) Okay just picked up the birds. I took 2 of them, the one with the worst scaly face and the one with the worst feather mites. Tony (the guy who feeds them etc) will take care of the other 3..two males who both appear healthy, as well as the female..all of which have the beginnings of feather mites and scaly face but not very badly at all.I took some pictures, and went to the vet and bought some ivermectin, and feather mite spray for them both. Here they are, a young (6-12 month old) yf2 male: And a sky blue male with feather mites:(at least, I'm assuming it's feather mites..I'm not certain. Am I right?) I've never seen anything like it, what a disgrace. good job rescuing them. Edited April 8, 2009 by Pearce Link to comment
Munchie's Mum 0 Posted April 13, 2009 Member ID: 4,928 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 160 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 970 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/12/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 6, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Good on you for taking it upon yourself to help these poor budgies. Let us know how they go, and take pictures when they're done if you can. I have a male budgie with feet just like that. He came with about 20 other budgies 12 months ago. His beak also keeps growing non stop and it's all crusty. Not one of the other budgies had the condition though. For almost a year I've been clipping back his overgrown beak and nails (some of which are flat and grow upwards) and treat him for beak mites and nits. Yet he hasn't got any better. He doesn't seem to be suffering, eats well and is even starting to breed. I'm sure if I didn't clip his beak he'd probably die eventually. How can I get rid of the crusties permanently? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 14, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) Good on you for taking it upon yourself to help these poor budgies. Let us know how they go, and take pictures when they're done if you can. I have a male budgie with feet just like that. He came with about 20 other budgies 12 months ago. His beak also keeps growing non stop and it's all crusty. Not one of the other budgies had the condition though. For almost a year I've been clipping back his overgrown beak and nails (some of which are flat and grow upwards) and treat him for beak mites and nits. Yet he hasn't got any better. He doesn't seem to be suffering, eats well and is even starting to breed. I'm sure if I didn't clip his beak he'd probably die eventually. How can I get rid of the crusties permanently? What treatment have you been using....topical applications can be hit and miss. Spot on ivermectin most often gets rid of scalyface in one treatment. Feather mites needs a good spraying all over with Avian Insecticidal Liquidator. Edited April 14, 2009 by KAZ Link to comment
Munchie's Mum 0 Posted April 22, 2009 Member ID: 4,928 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 160 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 970 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/12/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 6, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 What treatment have you been using....topical applications can be hit and miss. Spot on ivermectin most often gets rid of scalyface in one treatment. Feather mites needs a good spraying all over with Avian Insecticidal Liquidator. Oops, I forgot to reply to this sorry Kaz. I've been using a little bottle of....I'm not sure what the brand is, but it's a common one from pet shops and vets. It's for scaley face. I trim the excess growth off hte nails and beak, then apply the scaley treatment with cotton buds. I've been doing it regularly for a year but I'm not getting anywhere. I've heard putting a fine layer of cooking oil on top of their water dish coats the beak in oil and somehow kills the mites. Is this true? Link to comment
Jen144 0 Posted May 6, 2009 Member ID: 4,580 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 707 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/08/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 30, 2015 Birthday: 14/04/1995 Author Share Posted May 6, 2009 The one with scaly face has greatly improved. Yesterday was his 5th treatment of 6, so he is almost done. I think all feather mites are gone. By the way, how many times etc should I spray them for feather mites for them all to be gone, and for how long? Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted May 6, 2009 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.23 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2009 This is wonderful news again great job Jen. As for the mite spray, I will let someone else answer. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 6, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted May 6, 2009 (edited) The one with scaly face has greatly improved. Yesterday was his 5th treatment of 6, so he is almost done. I think all feather mites are gone. By the way, how many times etc should I spray them for feather mites for them all to be gone, and for how long? Depends on the brand and quality of the product you are using. Avian insecticidal liquidator is the best one I know of, and I would say once only with that product. In my expereince there is no real saving in cheaper petshop or supermarket products most of the time. Edited May 6, 2009 by KAZ Link to comment
Jen144 0 Posted May 7, 2009 Member ID: 4,580 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 707 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/08/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 30, 2015 Birthday: 14/04/1995 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 Well I bought it from the vet, it's called 'Avitrol Bird mite and lice spray'. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 7, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I dont know that one, but check the birds over and see what you can see....if its done its job :hooray: Link to comment
Pearce 0 Posted May 7, 2009 Member ID: 4,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,475 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 14,280 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/06/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 7, 2011 Birthday: 21/04/1991 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Avitrol is okay. Its got basically the same stuff as the better brands, but its more diluted. Avitrol - Pyrethrins 0.5 g/L. piperonyl butoxide 5 g/L Avian insect liquidator - Piperonyl Butoxide 125 g/L, Permethrin 25 g/L In my opinion you cannot beat A.I.L Aslong as you steer clear of pet shop brands such as Avian-Science you will be right. Link to comment
Jen144 0 Posted May 7, 2009 Member ID: 4,580 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 707 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/08/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 30, 2015 Birthday: 14/04/1995 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 Okay cool. Does anyone know how much I should spray them and for how long..ie, every day for a week, or something? It doesn't give any directions except to 'repeat as necessary' and I can't tell any difference in their feathers until they moult.. Link to comment
Pearce 0 Posted May 7, 2009 Member ID: 4,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,475 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 14,280 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/06/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 7, 2011 Birthday: 21/04/1991 Share Posted May 7, 2009 With a.i.l once is enough. Maybe spray once this week, then if it has not done its job try one more spray next week. If still no change, switch products. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 7, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted May 7, 2009 With a.i.l once is enough. Maybe spray once this week, then if it has not done its job try one more spray next week. If still no change, switch products. I agree with Pearce. I have alot of faith in A.I.L. too. Link to comment
Jen144 0 Posted May 7, 2009 Member ID: 4,580 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 707 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 4,920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 14/08/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 30, 2015 Birthday: 14/04/1995 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 Where can I get that? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted May 7, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Where can I get that? Most decent bird supply or stockfeed places. Link to comment
Pearce 0 Posted May 7, 2009 Member ID: 4,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,475 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 14,280 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 18/06/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 7, 2011 Birthday: 21/04/1991 Share Posted May 7, 2009 And vetafarm Link to comment
mysixbabies 0 Posted May 7, 2009 Member ID: 3,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 987 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,965 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 3, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Good Job keep it coming! Link to comment
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