He Turned Out To Be A Girl?

[Cory 0]

About a month ago almost everyone agreed Snowflake was a cock but now I'm not so sure about that.. what do you think?

 

 

 

I say she is a hen..

[Dave_McMinn 0]

how old is she? If she is old enough, why no brown cere?

[chrissy0705 0]

how old is she? If she is old enough, why no brown cere?

 

 

Albinos don't follow the blue/brown cere rules. The females will be a white/blue or milky tan color and the males will stay pink.

 

I agree this is a hen, a young, out of condition hen.

Edited March 26, 2009 by chrissy0705

[Hills 0]

Can I ask an associated question. When you refer to a hen being "out of condition" as I've heard many times on here now, does that just mean they're just not ready to breed or does it mean they are unwell (or they've been sitting around on the sofa eating too much chocolate ) ?

[Dave_McMinn 0]

how old is she? If she is old enough, why no brown cere?

 

 

Albinos don't follow the blue/brown cere rules. The females will be a white/blue or milky tan color and the males will stay pink.

 

I agree this is a hen, a young, out of condition hen.

 

I am sorry, but I think you are wrong here chrissy. A female albino will go through exactly the same colour changes on a cere that any other hen would, regardless of the mutation. Here cere will start pink with white nostril rings, go white with a small amount of blue, then to tan, then to brown, all depending upon what stage of her cycle she is in.

 

The cere's of male albino's are different, and yes, they will stay a smooth pinkish colour, not go blue.

[**Liv** 0]

Hills, it means they are not in a hormonal state to ovulate and far from being in the mood to breed. kind of like people pms

 

I didnt answer you other topic, i missed it for some reason. The albinos photo is very fuzzy in that topic so it would have been very hard to tell anyway.

Here your albino looks like a hen to me.

Edited March 26, 2009 by **Liv**

[Dave_McMinn 0]

Can I ask an associated question. When you refer to a hen being "out of condition" as I've heard many times on here now, does that just mean they're just not ready to breed or does it mean they are unwell (or they've been sitting around on the sofa eating too much chocolate ) ?

 

It means they are not ready to breed. When the tan starts to show the slightest tinge of tan, then she should is entering the right breeding condition.

[**KAZ** 0]

how old is she? If she is old enough, why no brown cere?

 

 

Albinos don't follow the blue/brown cere rules. The females will be a white/blue or milky tan color and the males will stay pink.

 

I agree this is a hen, a young, out of condition hen.

I have to disagree with you Chrissy. A female albino will have a whitish cere as a youngster......mostly whitish pink. Rarely whitish blue. A hen in breeding condition WILL HAVE a brownish cere.

 

 

To elaborate on the BREEDING CONDITION part of the question......breeding condition does not mean ready to breed if they are still too young. Breeding condition can occur at sometime 4-5 months of age but they should not be bred until at least 12 months.

Edited March 26, 2009 by KAZ

[Hills 0]

Ah I see, thanks for the answers.

 

Don't worry KAZ, Ozzie won't ever be bred with. She has her own bedroom err... I mean cage to make sure of that!!

[Cory 0]

A female albino will go through exactly the same colour changes on a cere that any other hen would, regardless of the mutation. Here cere will start pink with white nostril rings, go white with a small amount of blue, then to tan, then to brown, all depending upon what stage of her cycle she is in.

 

The cere's of male albino's are different, and yes, they will stay a smooth pinkish colour, not go blue.

 

 

Snowflake's cere was pinkish when I first got her but then it changed to blueish white.. the whitest part is around the nostrils and she is about 3 months old.. does that help?

[Sailorwolf 0]

She is a hen.

 

Breeding condition means that their reproductive organs are primed for breeding and their hormones are ready. It does not mean that they should be bred with if they are under a year old however.

[Cory 0]

She is a hen.

 

Breeding condition means that their reproductive organs are primed for breeding and their hormones are ready. It does not mean that they should be bred with if they are under a year old however.

 

 

Yes of course

My flock is way to young for breeding.. I start next year when they will be at least 15 months old.

I do have one hen in breeding condition though but she is only about 6 months old.. so she will have to wait a year for that.

[Pearce 0]

The albino cocks ceres stay blue and the hens ceres go brown when matured, like any other hens.

Your bird looks hen to me.

[Dave_McMinn 0]

No Pearce, the cocks cere stays PINK!!!!

[Pearce 0]

typo,...and I cant edit it back.

Edited March 27, 2009 by Pearce

[**KAZ** 0]

The albino cocks ceres stay blue and the hens ceres go brown when matured, like any other hens.

Your bird looks hen to me.

:fear Pearce !!

[Pearce 0]

typo......

[nubbly5 0]

After having a little watch of the "Is it a girl or is it a boy" threads I have to say that I felt that in many cases the birds were often too young to tell 100% if they were boy or girl and to be honest photo's often make it lots harder. There are many babies in my lot that I have thought were one sex and turned out to be the other - usually thinking they were cocks but turned out to be hens but not always. And Even though I've only been breeding budgies myself for 9 yrs, my mother bred exhibition birds through the 70's & 80's so call that a 30yr experience line in sexing budgies.......

 

I think the risk here is that we are all going to make a wrong call every now and then with those very young birds. Adults or older babies - no worries but those real young ones can catch you out.

[**KAZ** 0]

After having a little watch of the "Is it a girl or is it a boy" threads I have to say that I felt that in many cases the birds were often too young to tell 100% if they were boy or girl and to be honest photo's often make it lots harder. There are many babies in my lot that I have thought were one sex and turned out to be the other - usually thinking they were cocks but turned out to be hens but not always. And Even though I've only been breeding budgies myself for 9 yrs, my mother bred exhibition birds through the 70's & 80's so call that a 30yr experience line in sexing budgies.......

 

I think the risk here is that we are all going to make a wrong call every now and then with those very young birds. Adults or older babies - no worries but those real young ones can catch you out.

I have learnt to sex my own babies at 5 days in the nestbox. I write it down then and it is 99% correct.

Mistakes can be made ona forum when we have to rely on colour of photos with carying degrees of light conditions. BUT I do trust my own sexing abilities. I have bought 5 "COCKS" from seasoned show breeders when I knew them to be hens and I was right.

[Dave_McMinn 0]

I have seen experienced breeders have trouble sexing birds. At the St George show some birds were disaqualified as they had been entered into the wrong category due to their gender. Often happens with males, especially pieds and ino's. I have seen a female entered as a male as she simply had blue on her cere.