Old Cock Birds

[budgiebuyer09 0]

Has anyone been to a breeders place before and spotted out some great birds only yo find out that they are really old?

Well i took the plunge and bought 2 real quality cocks that were both red ringers ( not this years birds ), and they have filled eggs for me. Cant wait to see the result of the babies.

 

You cant complain when the breeders let these birds go really cheap to as they shall they cant guarantee that they shall fill the eggs due to there age.

 

These 2 cock birds are both Gazzard birds.

[Elly 0]

what do you mean by old? like what age?

[JimmyBanks 0]

they are red rings and I believe it is a 7 or 8 year rotation... (we're on red again now)

[Pearce 0]

If they are red rings they are 2003 birds, its a 6 year cycle

http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=13461

[JimmyBanks 0]

Thanks Budgie88 I knew it was around here somewhere

[Pearce 0]

I have read some uk people have bred with cocks that are 11 years old.

Edited January 8, 2009 by budgie88

[JimmyBanks 0]

thats to old for my liking... some people in england pair very young cocks too... I'm not going to criticise... I just wouldn't do it...

[budgiebuyer09 0]

I have read some uk people have bred with cocks that are 11 years old.

 

 

i think the the uk they are alright to breed when they are real old due to the temperatures.

im going to keep on breeding these cock birds until they dont fill eggs anymore. they are too good to not get as many young as possibly especially as they are Gazzard birds.

[Pearce 0]

I have read some uk people have bred with cocks that are 11 years old.

 

 

i think the the uk they are alright to breed when they are real old due to the temperatures.

im going to keep on breeding these cock birds until they dont fill eggs anymore. they are too good to not get as many young as possibly especially as they are Gazzard birds.

 

 

Thats what I would do, good luck.

[**KAZ** 0]

Something to consider also, apart from the fact they are Gazzard birds, is that what we look for in our birds changes with time. What is desirable in our birds one year may not be a desirable feature 6 years from now. I see nothing wrong with using an aged cock of 6 years if he is still vital and filling eggs, BUT to be considered is.....does he carry the features of what is called "the modern bird" ? Or is he the bird type of 6 years ago showing features of 6 yrs ago ...features which may have now been surpassed ? Only you would know as we havent yet seen the pictures

Edited January 8, 2009 by KAZ

[renee 0]

Something to consider also, apart from the fact they are Gazzard birds, is that what we look for in our birds changes with time. What is desirable in our birds one year may not be a desirable feature 6 years from now. I see nothing wrong with using an aged cock of 6 years if he is still vital and filling eggs, BUT to be considered is.....does he carry the features of what is called "the modern bird" ? Or is he the bird type of 6 years ago showing features of 6 yrs ago ...features which may have now been surpassed ? Only you would know as we havent yet seen the pictures

 

Very wise words Kaz.

 

I started Stewarding last year and observed time and time again the Judges promoting what they termed 'the Modern bird' to first place.

 

These so called Modern birds not only have brow, but width of head and mask (as well as depth) and plenty of back scull. The shoulders are well developed with length of body.

 

If I'm reading the coming trends correctly, this year quality of markings will feature prominently as well as all of the above.

[splat 0]

My wow cock is 04 ring and he is throughing all my best features size, width and depth of head and plenty of back scull, shoulders well developed with length of body, I will keep using him also.

[lochlan 0]

sounds like a good buy if they breed and are of quality , a good place to start anyway. Pics .

[budgiebuyer09 0]

sounds like a good buy if they breed and are of quality , a good place to start anyway. Pics .

 

 

i can take pics but they dont do the bird justice in a breeding cabinet as i use the wire cabinets, and it is also such a long process to process pics on this website.

I shall however over time, get a website or a page which shall have links to my birds, as im wanting to have all of my birds on record to have a picture attached to them.

 

this cock is certainly a modern cock, as another open breeder was there at the sametime i was and he commented on the bird i had in my show cage. ( not saying im an open breeder, that the person selling the birds was an open breeder).

[**KAZ** 0]

sounds like a good buy if they breed and are of quality , a good place to start anyway. Pics .

 

 

i can take pics but they dont do the bird justice in a breeding cabinet as i use the wire cabinets, and it is also such a long process to process pics on this website.

I shall however over time, get a website or a page which shall have links to my birds, as im wanting to have all of my birds on record to have a picture attached to them.

 

this cock is certainly a modern cock, as another open breeder was there at the sametime i was and he commented on the bird i had in my show cage. ( not saying im an open breeder, that the person selling the birds was an open breeder).

 

Best photos are done by pulling them from their cage for a few mins and putting them in show cage for a photo. Especially good for your records too.

[budgiebuyer09 0]

sounds like a good buy if they breed and are of quality , a good place to start anyway. Pics .

 

 

i can take pics but they dont do the bird justice in a breeding cabinet as i use the wire cabinets, and it is also such a long process to process pics on this website.

I shall however over time, get a website or a page which shall have links to my birds, as im wanting to have all of my birds on record to have a picture attached to them.

 

this cock is certainly a modern cock, as another open breeder was there at the sametime i was and he commented on the bird i had in my show cage. ( not saying im an open breeder, that the person selling the birds was an open breeder).

 

Best photos are done by pulling them from their cage for a few mins and putting them in show cage for a photo. Especially good for your records too.

 

Too much effort at present as i have 40 cabinets set up.

[Pearce 0]

sounds like a good buy if they breed and are of quality , a good place to start anyway. Pics .

 

 

i can take pics but they dont do the bird justice in a breeding cabinet as i use the wire cabinets, and it is also such a long process to process pics on this website.

I shall however over time, get a website or a page which shall have links to my birds, as im wanting to have all of my birds on record to have a picture attached to them.

 

this cock is certainly a modern cock, as another open breeder was there at the sametime i was and he commented on the bird i had in my show cage. ( not saying im an open breeder, that the person selling the birds was an open breeder).

 

Best photos are done by pulling them from their cage for a few mins and putting them in show cage for a photo. Especially good for your records too.

 

Thats what Im going to do to, once I can get a hold of a showcage.

[Elly 0]

Good advice too...Kaz

 

One point I didn't see is they can keep filling eggs but are they healthy enough to raise a clutch with the hen when they are older or do you just like the hen raise them? Raising a clutch can wear on the health of any bird especially since the cock does a lot after the babies are hatched.

[budgiebuyer09 0]

Good advice too...Kaz

 

One point I didn't see is they can keep filling eggs but are they healthy enough to raise a clutch with the hen when they are older or do you just like the hen raise them? Raising a clutch can wear on the health of any bird especially since the cock does a lot after the babies are hatched.

 

 

in these instances if you have pairs that you just use as foster parents it is a great idea to use them in these cases so the birds dont get worn out!