mysixbabies 0 Posted January 7, 2009 Member ID: 3,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 987 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,965 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 3, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I have a young 'olive' (i never can work out the colours) hen who has had her first intrest in the nestbox. She is mated to a 'green' male . She has laid three or four eggs in the nest but they are pinkish so i'm not sure if they are fertile. Can you help me please? Hope fully the storks are bringing some babies to RP! :baby: thanks love Kate Link to comment
JimmyBanks 0 Posted January 7, 2009 Member ID: 4,130 Group: Site Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,370 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 25,112 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2015 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted January 7, 2009 sorry I have no idea... are they pinkish when they are being candled??? Link to comment
renee 0 Posted January 7, 2009 Member ID: 4,388 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,462 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,420 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/05/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 28, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I have a young 'olive' She has laid three or four eggs in the nest but they are pinkish so i'm not sure if they are fertile. Can you help me please? Use a small torch and without moving the eggs shine the light directly into each of the eggs, this process is called candling. If they are fertile after 4-5 days you will see little red/pink lines starting to form inside. If in doubt, wait a few more days (till the 7 day mark after laying) and try again. Link to comment
mysixbabies 0 Posted January 11, 2009 Member ID: 3,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 987 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,965 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) sorry I have no idea... are they pinkish when they are being candled??? no they are just pinkish all the time are first time mums more prone to infertility? I have seen pepper and Kissy mating. Edited January 11, 2009 by Neat Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 11, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Sounds like infertile. How old are the parents ? Do your mating perches wobble all around ? Show us a pik of your breeding cage. Link to comment
Neat 0 Posted January 11, 2009 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Share Posted January 11, 2009 How long ago did she lay the eggs? As she may not be incubating yet - Plus the weather is extremly hot at the moment Link to comment
mysixbabies 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Member ID: 3,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 987 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,965 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 she is over a year old and so is he. but they are siblings. will this matter.Hot? YES! Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) Siblings is not a good idea :rofl: Half siblings is okay in some cases, but full siblings can cause genetic issues. Full siblings are only normally used by experienced show breeders when they know the extended genetic makeup of the birds. If the eggs are not showing fertility, it would be a good idea to break up the pair. Edited January 19, 2009 by **Liv** Link to comment
mysixbabies 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Member ID: 3,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 987 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,965 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 okay so how? and get rid of the eggs? Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) okay so how?and get rid of the eggs? Breaking up the pair can be done by removing one to another cage etc. If they are in an aviary and being colony bred its a lot harder. You can break the pairs bond by removing the hen from the aviary and put her in a cage with another cock for a few weeks. it takes around 2-3 weeks to break a strong bond and form a new one. then when they go back in the aviary, she should have forgotten all about her brother. if you do not want the eggs to develop, throw them away , that is up to you Edited January 19, 2009 by **Liv** Link to comment
mysixbabies 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Member ID: 3,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 987 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,965 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 will they develope if I leave them in? Also if i put the hen in another cage then put another male in with her would that help? Link to comment
mysixbabies 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Member ID: 3,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 987 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,965 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) I'm not sure the eggs are fertile. I found one on the aivary floor yesterday so I really don't know what is happpening? Help please! Edited January 19, 2009 by mysixbabies Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted January 20, 2009 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted January 20, 2009 okay, a lot to say, here we go. 1. Don't breed siblings. It will only lead to problems. 2. Only you can tell if your eggs are fertile. We cannot see them. Did you candle them as suggested? 3. Don't ever just take out one cock and put in another cock. The hen can often feel defensive, and kill the cock to protect the nest she thinks she has established. 4. You were asked what your breeding set up is like but there was no response and no picture. You ask for help but refuse to provide info that is requested. By answering our questions, we can help you more, and provide the best situation for your budgies. That is ultimately why we are all here. Link to comment
mysixbabies 0 Posted January 20, 2009 Member ID: 3,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 987 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,965 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 wow dave! okay I'm sorry that i didn't read the post you were refering to about the breeding set up. I am very informal and all my budgies are in 1 avairy with a few nest boxes in there. Does this help? I wasn't refusing just didn't read the post. okay I will try taking th female out for a few weeks. What about breeding Father and daughter is this the sam as siblings? Will try candling later on. Link to comment
JimmyBanks 0 Posted January 20, 2009 Member ID: 4,130 Group: Site Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,370 Content Per Day: 0.75 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 25,112 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2015 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted January 20, 2009 As a beginner I would not be breeding any relations what so ever... It just get to complicated in the future... expecially when colony breeding, as you are. The trick is to keep very good records. With out them you will be breeding relatives and not even know it. Some show breeders do what is called line breeding, there are threads about it, but again it takes very good record keeping and you can really only do it with closed breeding... Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 20, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Why breed siblings or father daughter at all ?? Have you no other choices. I wouldnt breed siblings or father daughter. You say you have nestboxes in the aviary...that will encourgae breeding in there of any ages of birds even those too young and relatives. Link to comment
mysixbabies 0 Posted January 20, 2009 Member ID: 3,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 987 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,965 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 okay......... Man I need a new cage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted January 20, 2009 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I agree. a new aviary sounds good so you can separate the breeding ones from the young ones Line/in breeding is not a good idea without very strict rules and record keeping Link to comment
mysixbabies 0 Posted January 21, 2009 Member ID: 3,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 987 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,965 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 okay I have seperated pepper but... I have another female who is paired with her Dad. Should I deperate? Can I put this one in with pepper? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 21, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) okay I have seperated pepper but... I have another female who is paired with her Dad. Should I deperate? Can I put this one in with pepper? WHY must you ask should you seperate a related pair ??? Shouldnt that be common sense ?? YES....................do not breed father to daughter, brother to sister, etc :rofl: Edited January 21, 2009 by KAZ Link to comment
mysixbabies 0 Posted January 21, 2009 Member ID: 3,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 987 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,965 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 okay SORRY please but should I put the sisters in the one holding cage? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 21, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted January 21, 2009 okay SORRY please but should I put the sisters in the one holding cage? Sisters together will be fine...they cannot budgie bonk each other and make babies. Link to comment
mysixbabies 0 Posted January 21, 2009 Member ID: 3,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 987 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,965 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) Hehe he he he he he :hap: :hap: :hap: :hap: :hap: :hap: :hap: :hap: okay Edited January 21, 2009 by mysixbabies Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted January 21, 2009 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) Mysixbabies....you just posted in another topic about some harsh comments. I am about to say something to you that you may see as harsh also. The thing is we do know stuff on here and we try to share it for the welfare of the budgies first and foremost and we try to get people who either dont know things or dont care to know things to change what they are doing for the sake of the birds. I have a couple of things I would like to say to you to make life for your birds better. Please take this advice in the way it is intended. 1. Please reshuffle all your birds so that NO BIRDS that are younger than 12 months of age are anywhere that a nestbox is...like in a colony aviary. 2. Please do not breed brother to sister, father to daughter. Even 99.9% of show breeders dont do that. Eggs and babies are exciting YES....but not when you have crossed boundaries and breeding siblings and still dont GET IT that it is wrong even when you have been told quite a few times. Please take note of this advice and believe me it is meant to help your birds and ultimately make you a better bird owner. :hap: Edited January 21, 2009 by KAZ Link to comment
mysixbabies 0 Posted January 21, 2009 Member ID: 3,449 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 987 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,965 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 30/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 Mysixbabies....you just posted in another topic about some harsh comments. I am about to say something to you that you may see as harsh also. The thing is we do know stuff on here and we try to share it for the welfare of the budgies first and foremost and we try to get people who either dont know things or dont care to know things to change what they are doing for the sake of the birds. I have a couple of things I would like to say to you to make life for your birds better. Please take this advice in the way it is intended. 1. Please reshuffle all your birds so that NO BIRDS that are younger than 12 months of age are anywhere that a nestbox is...like in a colony aviary. 2. Please do not breed brother to sister, father to daughter. Even 99.9% of show breeders dont do that. Eggs and babies are exciting YES....but not when you have crossed boundaries and breeding siblings and still dont GET IT that it is wrong even when you have been told quite a few times. Please take note of this advice and believe me it is meant to help your birds and ultimately make you a better bird owner. :hap: okay I will take my two younger birds out (one is Storm that I will try to train) and the other is summer. I will try to seperate the pairs that are related. When Dad gets home from WA I hopfuly can persuade him to build my breeding cage! Woohoo! Thanks for the advice! Link to comment
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