splat 0 Posted December 7, 2008 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Share Posted December 7, 2008 This light green opaline spangle is 6 weeks old and I think he is stunning. to me he has width of face and directional feather, he is also a good size bird as in big, he sits his flights well and sits on the perch well. So all in all I don't get it. I know he could have more feather as Greg is comparing him to a white DF cinn spangle which has a lot more feather because she is cinnamon here are some photos This is him a couple of weeks ago This is the whie df cinn spangle This Yellow DF spangle is the father to the white and half brother to the light green. I got best beginner woyh him and almost the diploma but he wouldn't perch he had enough by then. Hoping to put him in the adult shield march 2009 if he gets seclected. Link to comment
melbournebudgies 0 Posted December 7, 2008 Member ID: 4,233 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 329 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,498 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,540 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2010 Birthday: 17/12/1982 Share Posted December 7, 2008 I don't know but if greg doesn't want him.... Link to comment
Sunnie 0 Posted December 7, 2008 Member ID: 3,666 Group: B.B.C Club Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 80 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,470 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 8,830 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/09/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 10, 2013 Birthday: 20/01/1966 Share Posted December 7, 2008 To my novice eye, they both look lovely. Doesnt the DF have too much suffusion for show? I am asking this as I have a white DF who has a lot of blue suffusion and he cant be shown because of it. Link to comment
melbournebudgies 0 Posted December 7, 2008 Member ID: 4,233 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 329 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,498 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,540 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2010 Birthday: 17/12/1982 Share Posted December 7, 2008 No reason a DF with suffusion can't be shown but it would loose points for not conforming to the standard so it might not win unless it was an exceptional bird in all it's other points Link to comment
JimmyBanks 0 Posted December 7, 2008 Member ID: 4,130 Group: Site Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,370 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 25,112 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2015 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted December 7, 2008 I love the DF... but I don't show so I can't really say which is best... Link to comment
splat 0 Posted December 7, 2008 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 (edited) MB is right, points are taken off for the suffusion. You know when the first DF was discovered it was by Geoff Gardiner the the guy that came here and looked at my birds he was ans ANBC judge well he told me that is what the DF spangles looked like when first discovered, they had a blue or green bib but the stanard says they have to be pure white or yellow. Edited December 7, 2008 by splat Link to comment
melbournebudgies 0 Posted December 7, 2008 Member ID: 4,233 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 329 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,498 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,540 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2010 Birthday: 17/12/1982 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Yeah someof he older members at my club were looking at my DF Ozzie who is almost identical to your one and saying what a shame the DF spangle had been turned into "just another yellow or white bird". They reckon we should go back to the days of the bib Link to comment
JimmyBanks 0 Posted December 7, 2008 Member ID: 4,130 Group: Site Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,370 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 25,112 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 1, 2015 Birthday: 12/02/1982 Share Posted December 7, 2008 That must be an annoying part of the 'fancy' why do they do stuff like that. just makes it harder to recognise the different mutations... Link to comment
melbournebudgies 0 Posted December 7, 2008 Member ID: 4,233 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 329 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,498 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,540 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2010 Birthday: 17/12/1982 Share Posted December 7, 2008 It means we have the inos, the Dark eyed clears, the DF spangles, the black eyes selfs all basically identical except for difference in the eyes/cere/foot colour, so until you get up close they might as well all be in the same class Link to comment
splat 0 Posted December 7, 2008 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 Guess your right MB but it is a challenge to breed the without suffusion Link to comment
melbournebudgies 0 Posted December 7, 2008 Member ID: 4,233 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 329 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,498 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,540 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2010 Birthday: 17/12/1982 Share Posted December 7, 2008 PersonallyIlike them better with the bib :yes: Link to comment
splat 0 Posted December 8, 2008 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 You know he has got more green or bright green since his moult from a young bird to an adult. But I want to know what you all think about my baby . Link to comment
the pie 0 Posted December 8, 2008 Member ID: 2,384 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,172 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 7,460 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/06/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 27, 2012 Birthday: 25/08/1981 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I think he is lovely and well worth keeping to see how he matures. Lots of potential in him. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted December 8, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Guess your right MB but it is a challenge to breed the without suffusion Breeding DF spangles without suffusion can be done by using cinnamon spangles. Link to comment
splat 0 Posted December 8, 2008 Member ID: 3,340 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,891 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 27,770 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 17/04/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: April 19, 2014 Birthday: 13/05/1958 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 Kaz is right. To get a good marked DF spangle you should use cinnamon opaline grey for the blue series and grey green for the green series. The yellow DF pictured here father is a grey green opaline split cinnamon spangle and the mother is a sky blue spangle really colour wise bad mating. The white DF the father is The yellow DF spangle pictured and cobalt opaline spangle bad mating colour wise. But then last year I used green opaline cinnamon spangle hen with my green opaline cinnamon split cinnamon spangle cock and I white 2 pure white hens and 2 yellow DF cocks and the cocks both have suffusion but not as much as the one above. So who knows Link to comment
nubbly5 0 Posted February 11, 2009 Member ID: 5,023 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 39 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,608 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 8,635 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 28/01/09 Status: Offline Last Seen: December 21, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Personally I really like the potential of the baby. It would be one I would hang onto and see how it develops. Link to comment
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