Please Judge These Birds

[bird_paradise 0]

Hey all,

 

Can you please judge these budgies for me? Would they be suitable to show? Please be totally honest, I really want to know and I will not be offended at all.

 

Thanks

 

Ghost on left Bones on right

 

[melbournebudgies 0]

Can you take a side on photo please

[bird_paradise 0]

yep sure just as soon as I get home on Sunday night I will post it on monday okayAny ideas from the photo I do have though?Like have they got good masks, heads?

[Daz 0]

I suspect you have two forms of Pieds here. The Hen looks to be a contenental clear flight. She has good shoulders and a good stance and is a long bird but the mask is short which causes the spots to be under developed. She is lacking a lot in the head qualities. But having said that the directional feathering over the eye is good. It might be that she has pulled at time of the photo being taken.

 

The Cock is a Dutch pied with good frontal and width above the cere. He is a short bird but with good stance.

 

Neather of them would be good as a show bird but together they compliment each other and the chicks would be better than the parents.

 

This is what we call stock birds. They are not a complete show bird but have plenty to give.

 

I think if you pair them, depending on age, they would do you well.

 

By the way, the hen looks ready for mating.

[bird_paradise 0]

I suspect you have two forms of Pieds here. The Hen looks to be a contenental clear flight. She has good shoulders and a good stance and is a long bird but the mask is short which causes the spots to be under developed. She is lacking a lot in the head qualities. But having said that the directional feathering over the eye is good. It might be that she has pulled at time of the photo being taken.

 

The Cock is a Dutch pied with good frontal and width above the cere. He is a short bird but with good stance.

 

Neather of them would be good as a show bird but together they compliment each other and the chicks would be better than the parents.

 

This is what we call stock birds. They are not a complete show bird but have plenty to give.

 

I think if you pair them, depending on age, they would do you well.

 

By the way, the hen looks ready for mating.

 

okay, thanks. Apparently they had bred before I bought them, but the cock bird escaped a while ago, so now cant pair up:-( What type/colour etc of cock should I put to Ghost as I am keen on breeding show birds.

 

Thanks Darryl

[Daz 0]

If she is a Contenental Clear Flight I would go to a light green normal or a light green opaline. The Cock should have go head qualities and a good mask to compliment her. If the cock is split to blue you could get Light greens, grey greens, greys and blues.

[melbournebudgies 0]

I big bird with a good long mask would be ideal. She is a dominant variety so even a normal would be fine to add size. Given she is a grey I would use a grey normal as there are lots of good normal grey show birds floating around Melbourne at the moment

 

May I ask why you suggest green Daz? I have had trouble finding good greens in Melbourne at the moment (they are there but breeders seem to be holding on to them more)

Edited December 6, 2008 by melbournebudgies

[bird_paradise 0]

okay thanks. I would love to put a light green to her, and get the colours you said Daz or a grey normal as MB said. Do you have the names, numbers or websites of any good breeders in VIC you could PM me by any chance?

[melbournebudgies 0]

It really depends where you are willing to go to buy. You're best bet would be to have a look at the Budgerigar Club of Victoria website abd workout who your closest club is and contact their secretary

[Daz 0]

May I ask why you suggest green Daz? I have had trouble finding good greens in Melbourne at the moment (they are there but breeders seem to be holding on to them more)

 

The grey factor helps increase the bird so pairing to Green, which will give rise to many possible colour outcomes hopefully inproving the bird. It is the best pairing this is why you find it hard to buy decent light greens. No body wants to sell them.

 

Pairing with Grey would give a percentage of Double factor greys. Nothing wrong with greys as I do pair grey to grey but only if they are best to best.

 

Remember that the grey birds we see is infact a blue bird with a grey factor. So the outcome would be Blues, Greys and Double Factor Greys. okay if you want to breed good greys. An other way is Grey to Grey greens split blue.

 

Blue to blue can reduce the size of the birds, that is why we pair blue to green to get Green split blues and then pair these back to the blues to increase size. One pairing to improve size in the blue series is Grey green split blue to blue.

Edited December 6, 2008 by Darryl

[melbournebudgies 0]

Thanks

[bird_paradise 0]

okay, thanks guys. I am looking for a light green cock then or a grey green.

 

What do you think of these birds? Are they good show birds and which one/s would you pair with Ghost? Also which would you pair with eachother?

 

[Daz 0]

Can you do individual photos to give us a better look at them. Front on will be fine for me.

[bird_paradise 0]

I do not actually have these birds yet Darryl, just seen them for sale and got sent some photos. Can you tell at all the way they are sitting?

[Daz 0]

okay I see. I like the yellow face Pied. Very good Stance. I like spangles so would take that one. The grey pied has good back skull.

 

I really can't see the ceres properly, which are th ehens and which are the cocks? can you remember?

[bird_paradise 0]

thanks Dazza. I am now wondering what results I would get from putting a Sky Blue normal to her? Also a green and yellow pied?

[Daz 0]

The colour Grey is based on Blue so putting a blue to her would give you Blues and Greys. Puting her to a green would give greys, grey green, green and blues (if the green is split blue) - (Most are)