ShadowGhost 0 Posted August 9, 2008 Member ID: 4,283 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 138 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 6, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2008 okay I bought some new birds less than 2 weeks ago, and one has developed an egg size lump on his chest. Yes, it's a boy, so I don't think it's an egg. Any ideas? http://users.on.net/~trentt/Sky1.jpg http://users.on.net/~trentt/Sky2.jpg http://users.on.net/~trentt/Sky3.jpg Link to comment
Angelic Vampyre 0 Posted August 9, 2008 Member ID: 3,545 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 207 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,028 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,140 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/07/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 26, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Hmmm how long did it take to come up? Has it been slow over the 2 weeks or has it just come up in a few days? I would be gowing with growth but how does it feel, is it hard or soft and sponge? I would be getting that looked at by a vet personally. Hope it works out. Link to comment
ShadowGhost 0 Posted August 9, 2008 Member ID: 4,283 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 138 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 6, 2011 Author Share Posted August 9, 2008 I think its been slow over the last 2 weeks, though I only noticed it this week, and at first I wasn't sure if it was just the way the bird was sitting. I just rang the store I got it from, they asked a few questions about his time here, like is he in an aviary, been out flying in the house a lot, wings clipped, eaten hot food... but its none of that. The lump itself is pretty soft. Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted August 9, 2008 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted August 9, 2008 eaten hot food what kind of "hot food" ???? Link to comment
Angelic Vampyre 0 Posted August 9, 2008 Member ID: 3,545 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 207 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,028 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,140 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/07/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 26, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Liv I believe that hot food can caught bloat in budgie but I might be wrong. Link to comment
ShadowGhost 0 Posted August 9, 2008 Member ID: 4,283 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 138 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 6, 2011 Author Share Posted August 9, 2008 bloat or apparently burn holes in their insides.... I never knew that... but then, I'd never feed my pets hot food... Link to comment
Neat 0 Posted August 9, 2008 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Share Posted August 9, 2008 (edited) How is he otherwise? What is his Poo's like? How well is he eating Eating?? Edited August 9, 2008 by Neat Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted August 9, 2008 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2008 Personally I would have him taken to the avian vet to see if it is crop issue or a fatty lump that would be best then guessing here on the forums and then they can give treatment if needed. Link to comment
macka 0 Posted August 9, 2008 Member ID: 3,383 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,136 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 31, 2012 Birthday: 24/06/1948 Share Posted August 9, 2008 You will find it has a tumor in its stomach,thats why it feels soft, Link to comment
ShadowGhost 0 Posted August 10, 2008 Member ID: 4,283 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 138 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 6, 2011 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 :fear I'm taking him back to the store shortly. I'm gonna miss him Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted August 10, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted August 10, 2008 :fear I'm taking him back to the store shortly. I'm gonna miss him Sorry it has come to this. BUT I agree....tumour Link to comment
Neat 0 Posted August 10, 2008 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Sorry Link to comment
Norm 0 Posted August 10, 2008 Member ID: 3,235 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,965 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 12,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 6, 2009 Birthday: 20/08/1940 Share Posted August 10, 2008 (edited) eaten hot food what kind of "hot food" ???? :hap: Take aways…Pizza…KFC…Big Max…some Budgie live the high life…it not only humans that have all the fun… :hap: Sorry about your bird Liv…I agree sounds like a tumour; they can come on pretty quick. I had a cock that grew one in a few weeks. Edited August 10, 2008 by Norm Link to comment
ShadowGhost 0 Posted August 11, 2008 Member ID: 4,283 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 138 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 6, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 The shop I bought it from (who claim to have a 2 week health guarantee) had the nerve to say there was nothing wrong with him Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted August 11, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted August 11, 2008 The shop I bought it from (who claim to have a 2 week health guarantee) had the nerve to say there was nothing wrong with him They are idiots. Next step ? Link to comment
Denise 0 Posted August 12, 2008 Member ID: 3,657 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 896 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 5,985 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 9, 2010 Birthday: 01/10/1964 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I would tell them I was getting an avian vet to check the budgie over and if they found anything then I would be sending them the account and want my money back for the budgie as well. Link to comment
Angelic Vampyre 0 Posted August 12, 2008 Member ID: 3,545 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 207 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,028 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,140 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/07/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 26, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Yes I agree tell them that you will get a vet check done and if there is something wrong with the bird they will have to pay the cost. If nothing is wrong with the bird they you will have to pay the cost. Link to comment
ShadowGhost 0 Posted August 14, 2008 Member ID: 4,283 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 138 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 6, 2011 Author Share Posted August 14, 2008 The lump appears to have gone down a lot, but he still shivers a lot during the day where the other birds don't, so I'm gonna have to get a vet to check him out soon I think. Other than that he seems fine, nothing out of the ordinary. I'd love to hold the shop to ransom but really, its not like they would pay anyway. Link to comment
Angelic Vampyre 0 Posted August 14, 2008 Member ID: 3,545 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 207 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,028 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 13,140 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/07/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 26, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2008 they have to give you at least a two week window. i will check with my friends who run a pet store and they can tell me what their obligation would be. Link to comment
Neat 0 Posted August 14, 2008 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Yep vet check with a written report! If it is bad then ask the Pet shop to pay back or yo will see them in civil court and have the RSPCA on to them .. If it is all good ... Nothing loss there just a few $$ Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted August 14, 2008 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Keep us updated with the avian vet visit, I do hope there is a positive resolution for the sake of the bird. Link to comment
melbournebudgies 0 Posted August 14, 2008 Member ID: 4,233 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 329 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,498 Content Per Day: 0.78 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,540 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2010 Birthday: 17/12/1982 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Legally I believe that they have an obligation to only supply you with a healthy bird, maybe check with the RSPCA as they should know the legalities. I'm pretty sure that they must either provide veterinary care at their cost or take the animal back to be treated as they see fit if that condition existed before you purhased the animal. I would 1. Call the RSPCA and find out your rights 2. Call the shop and inform them of your rights and their obligations and then 3. Follow up with vet care as required. Link to comment
ShadowGhost 0 Posted August 15, 2008 Member ID: 4,283 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 138 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 920 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 21/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 6, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2008 I don't think they intended to sell me a sick bird, the only sign that there may have been something wrong was he was a bit sleepy when I bought him (though I had seen him flying around a lot prior to that). To be fair, they did ask if I wanted my money back, and I probably should have said yes, but I didn't really want to give up on the bird so easily, he's cute! Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted August 15, 2008 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted August 15, 2008 (edited) To be fair, they did ask if I wanted my money back, and I probably should have said yes, but I didn't really want to give up on the bird so easily, he's cute! I have had the same thing too - I bought a bird that ended up being sick - the shop said i could have my $20 back. I ended up keeping the budgie and getting him vet treated myself costing me over $100. If i had given him back to the shop, I bet he would have either been killed or resold without treatment He is now happy and healthy and will be (hopefully) filling eggs for me in a few weeks :nest: Edited August 15, 2008 by **Liv** Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted August 15, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted August 15, 2008 (edited) Its hard...these petshops know you have invested love, time and hopes for these birds and they know you dont really want to give the bird back and get a refund. BUT by the same token, you should not have to pay for a sick or injured bird nor so soon in its life with you should you have to outlay huge vet costs. Anytime you are tempted to buy a bird from a petshop...watch it for the very longest time...and if in any doubt at all over health and vigor...regardless of how pretty or endearing....just walk away. Everyone of us has fallen victim to that cute budgie in the petshop cage and every one of us has had birds that died from a petshop. I would follow MB's advice and see where that leads . Edited August 15, 2008 by KAZ Link to comment
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