Neat 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Hey you guys!!!! I need help and well I know that this is the BEST PLACE TO GET IT!!!!!! What do I need to look for in Show Bugies ( APART FROM GREENS lol, I MEAN COLOUR) Heads and spots is what I am kinda understanding But can you guys lead me in the right direction PLEASE Thanks Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) 1.Long masks 2.directional feather......where the feathers from the cere go outwards and upwards in a kind of buffalo horn shape covering the eyes so you cannot see the eyes from the front of the bird 3. Backscull....Looking side on profile...the eyes have to be forward towards the front of the birds head pne third and two thirds of the head at the back. 4. Blow.......lots of feather up on top and a disire to throw it forward when relaxed 5. When blowing feathers forward...from the front of the bird...it needs to look fully round above the cere. There's more but thats a start Edited July 28, 2008 by KAZ Link to comment
Neat 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 Ahhhhh THANKS.. C'mon Daz I need your HELP TOO Link to comment
CaspersRose 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 2,008 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 560 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,390 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 19, 2010 Birthday: 01/05/1981 Share Posted July 28, 2008 1.Long masks2.directional feather......where the feathers from the cere go outwards and upwards in a kind of buffalo horn shape covering the eyes so you cannot see the eyes from the front of the bird 3. Backscull....Looking side on profile...the eyes have to be forward towards the front of the birds head pne third and two thirds of the head at the back. 4. Blow.......lots of feather up on top and a disire to throw it forward when relaxed 5. When blowing feathers forward...from the front of the bird...it needs to look fully round above the cere. There's more but thats a start For those of us who don't know, don't show, or are just curious, it would be really cool if any of you could post photos which show budgies with particularly nice examples of the features you have mentioned. I am really curious now! Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Will do....I will hunt some photos out now Link to comment
missylu 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 4,117 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 357 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 2,765 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/03/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: November 3, 2009 Birthday: 09/07/1984 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Great idea caspersRose!I am sure KAZ has some fine examples for show birds!Looking forward to pictures! Link to comment
CaspersRose 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 2,008 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 560 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,390 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 19, 2010 Birthday: 01/05/1981 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Will do....I will hunt some photos out now Yay! My curiosity is starting to get the better of me... am itching to see pics now! It's like when you're told at lunch time that you'll be having [insert favourite dinner meal here] for dinner... once the idea of it is in your head, it never seems to happen fast enough! Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) This boy, I am showing due to his long mask and circular shape to the top of his head http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r145/ka...ies/GDA5693.jpg This one shows how the feathers go across the cere and dip downwards at the sides before sweeping up and over the eye ...that is directional feather she also has a reasonably long mask and if you check out the location of her eye in relationship to the back of her head...you will see her eye is about one third of the way from the front of her head to the back. Two thirds from eye to back of head showing what is called BACKSKULL This hen shows good round, circular formation of feathers above the cere and reasinable length of mask Here you see, some directional feather as described in photo two, also good eye position and reasonable mask length This boy has good round shape to feathers above the cere, good long mask and same with this hen more to follow.....but I have to go to the hardware store **1st picture oversized, changed to link** Edited July 28, 2008 by Elly Link to comment
CaspersRose 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 2,008 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 560 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,390 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 19, 2010 Birthday: 01/05/1981 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Wow! Thanks!!!! Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted July 28, 2008 So its pretty much all about the head??.... Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 28, 2008 So its pretty much all about the head??.... Head, or what is called TOP END is pretty important. Also is length of body, stature on the perch, and meeting the standard for each variety. Link to comment
Neat 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 Fantastic Kaz, Great Idea Casper Rose 2 points yay!!!! So the longer the Mask ( moushtash (sp) the better? ) No what about SPots ???? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Fantastic Kaz, Great Idea Casper Rose 2 points yay!!!! So the longer the Mask ( moushtash (sp) the better? ) No what about SPots ???? Worry about the spots after you get their heads right Link to comment
Neat 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 Sweet, So if memory serves me, It is all about the Head, then Style, Stance, Size Link to comment
Norm 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 3,235 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,965 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 12,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 6, 2009 Birthday: 20/08/1940 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I agree with all that Kaz has said she has pointed out most of the important things. But as others have said don’t forget that these birds have bodies & other parts, sometimes when you hear show breeders talking you would think that all a Budgie has is a head. That’s why I think sometimes some show birds have faults that it would be better they were without, but I think it’s because some get carried away with only what their heads look like…Good post Neat, we all could learn a lot from this. I'm only learning too. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 28, 2008 One thing to remember..........when you concentrate too hard on making the top end larger and heavier.................... you gotta glue their little footsies to the perch or they swivel forward and bonk their wittle beaks Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted July 28, 2008 One thing to remember..........when you concentrate too hard on making the top end larger and heavier....................you gotta glue their little footsies to the perch or they swivel forward and bonk their wittle beaks :hap: :hap: :hap: Link to comment
Norm 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 3,235 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,965 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 12,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 6, 2009 Birthday: 20/08/1940 Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) One thing to remember..........when you concentrate too hard on making the top end larger and heavier.................... you gotta glue their little footsies to the perch or they swivel forward and bonk their wittle beaks You had that trouble already have you Kaz…LOL… :hap: Edited July 28, 2008 by KAZ Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Not me Norm...mine are a long way off having a great top end Link to comment
Norm 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 3,235 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,965 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 12,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 6, 2009 Birthday: 20/08/1940 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Not me Norm...mine are a long way off having a great top end At least some you bought don’t look too bad, so should be some good ones on deck soon if not already. Some of my latest chicks are looking bigger & less of them in number [per batch] that's a sign I'm breeding show types don't you think??? Link to comment
macka 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 3,383 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,136 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 6,440 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 31, 2012 Birthday: 24/06/1948 Share Posted July 28, 2008 You will need to buy the right birds,& thats harder said then done.You will need to crawl before you walk.It will happen but it will not happen over night.I will say you will get there ,quicker if you stick with breeding normals & you will need to have some greens,Pritty budgies will not win shows. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted July 28, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.30 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) You will need to buy the right birds,& thats harder said then done.You will need to crawl before you walk.It will happen but it will not happen over night.I will say you will get there ,quicker if you stick with breeding normals & you willneed to have some greens,Pritty budgies will not win shows. and Pretty budgies usually fall between the cracks in categories or the STANDARD. Mixed types are harder to classify and show and lose points due to that IF you can find a way to show them Edited July 28, 2008 by KAZ Link to comment
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