Breeding Black Budgies

[**KAZ** 0]

I will inquire of my ex father in law and see if he remembers what the parents were to his black budgie baby.

[Guest throwback]

The lovely secretary from the Eastern Districts budgie club is on the case for me :hap: She's going to look into the breeder of my flecked birds and also ask around for other birds with black flecks and grey birds with heaps of forehead flecking and big splashy cheek spots

 

Like these flecked greys. These are paired together with eggs. Should be interesting.

You can breed clean headed birds from flecked stock.

 

 

Another grey, this one Opaline. notice her wing where there is a patch of grey together.

That used to be called smudging where the black is replaced with body colour. Another markings fault.

 

 

Happens in cinnamon as well.

 

 

I don't know where you heading with this project? Are you going to try to produce a black budgie from flecked birds ?

 

Flecking come from opalines. That had so much spot that they looked like they had a black ring around there head. Breeders put the heavily marked opalines to normals and now the normals carry a lot of flecking, in dominate and recessive form.

 

There is no harm trying to produce something different.

Reproducing it in numbers is the real trick!!

 

 

 

Genetics is fascinating! especially in budgies.

 

Edited June 26, 2008 by throwback

[Sailorwolf 0]

So what there already exists a really dark grey budgie that kinda looks black. What you breed, may work differently genetically. It could be dominant or recessive or codomininant etc etc. Also what you breed may be actual light absorbing black. Black that is so dark you can feel its gravitational pull as it absorbs all the light around it and you as well!!! okay so maybe not that dark that you open up a black hole in your breeder cabinets, but you know what I mean; black that isn't dark grey: black velvet. Ans also you could develop a black faced bird that doesn't look like it has bars all over its face but is solid black all over its face and then maybe you could move on to making the wings solid black. There is so much you could try to achieve.

Also once you develop this, pairing it with other mutations, like dark factors or anthracites may produce even more awesome birds. Imagine a black bird with violet irridescence. Now wouldn't that be something.

[Sunnie 0]

Good for you for having a go MB and I have to say its really nice to see some others giving support too instead of poo pooing the idea. Hey, it might never work, but it certainly will never work if you dont give it a go and crikey!!! people DO win lotto but as they say, you gotta be in it to win it :hap:

 

Good luck in your project :hap:

[Norm 0]

TB that Cinnamon chick of yours certainly looks like its got potential, never seen one with so much pattern on the chest apart from those ones from The Netherlands, it will be very interesting to see how it moults out.

[Sunnie 0]

And I was going to comment how stunning I think those opaline greys are!!! (or mauves or mauve and grey? lol)

Anyway, they certainly are a gorgeous pair :hap:

[Sailorwolf 0]

Ooh and then once you breed a black bird, a brown bird would be easy, just get 1 black budgie, add 1 cinnamon and hey presto out of the oven comes a brown bird.

Or add the greywing gene and get a completely grey bird!!!!

Edited June 26, 2008 by Sailorwolf

[Guest throwback]

Ooh and then once you breed a black bird, a brown bird would be easy, just get 1 black budgie, add 1 cinnamon and hey presto out of the oven comes a brown bird.

Or add the greywing gene and get a completely grey bird!!!!

 

 

It would be nice if it was as easy as painting. Just adding colours together.

I don't want to poo poo on any one's dreams. But I'm afraid it's not that easy.

I used to fantasise as a kid about breeding something different. Funny how things change!

Now all I'm interested is breeding budgies as good as the English and Europeans.

 

 

The markings would look even more pronounced if it wasn't cinnamon.

There are some similarities between the two.

 

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A hen or two like this would help you

[PlayBirdMansion 0]

I currently have a 6 week old boy that has a very black head at present and his throat spots remind me of a beard (gets this from his dad). Both parents are opaline clearbodies and dad is cinnamon to boot. Obviously he hasn’t had his first moult yet and I did originally as he was getting feathers that he would have a white head just like Dad but now I think he will be majorly flecked. I do think that his father has some serious melanin as he has very dark blue grey feet much darker than I’ve seen before but maybe I just haven’t paid enough attention. Not sure if this is posted in the right area but can anyone offer some advice on how dark his head might be upon maturation. 

[PlayBirdMansion 0]

Thank you for your response. I will know have to have a read about coalface to better understand. I was aware there were no black budgerigars in Australia and I wasn’t meaning to waste anyone’s time I was just very surprised and when I showed his picture to someone of a budgie club trying to understand why he looked like this and he made me feel that I had a freak of nature and although he may look odd he is a beautiful loving fledgling and definitely a fantastic family pet. I made the post in the hole of better understanding budgie genetics and mutations.