nokmen 0 Posted June 16, 2008 Member ID: 4,438 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 15 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 130 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 15/06/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2012 Birthday: 18/06/1973 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Hi. I am really wondering if my baby budgie is male or female. The lady i bought from said he is definitely male because of the little bluish tendency in the cere. What do you think? He is about 6 weeks old. if the photo is not shown, please click maleorfemale Also my second concern is, if those dark spots in his/her beak will disappear as he/she gets older? It's actually not a big issue for me but just would like to know something new.(The black dirt sticked at the tip is out of question) Thanks. Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted June 16, 2008 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I am no expert, but let me guess. the black will disappear. I think it is a little girl. I think the white circles aroudn the cere indicate it is a girl. Link to comment
melbournebudgies 0 Posted June 16, 2008 Member ID: 4,233 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 329 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,498 Content Per Day: 0.78 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,540 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2010 Birthday: 17/12/1982 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I would say a girl too. Link to comment
Rainbow 0 Posted June 16, 2008 Member ID: 198 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,028 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 15,290 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/03/04 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 15, 2009 Birthday: 24/04/1965 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I think your new budgie is female. The black streaks will fade soon, they will be gone within a month. But the view on my monitor looks like the tip of the beak is missing? Is that just the camera angle? Link to comment
nokmen 0 Posted June 16, 2008 Member ID: 4,438 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 15 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 130 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 15/06/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2012 Birthday: 18/06/1973 Author Share Posted June 16, 2008 I think your new budgie is female. The black streaks will fade soon, they will be gone within a month. But the view on my monitor looks like the tip of the beak is missing? Is that just the camera angle? Yes it's because of an angle. It makes me a little happy to know the black shades will be gone . But for the babies it seems to me that it's always confusing to talk about sexing. What about these two examples in http://www.budgietalk.com/budgiegender.html The examples in 3rd and 4th pictures also have rings around nostrils. However they are said to be male. Link to comment
Rainbow 0 Posted June 16, 2008 Member ID: 198 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,028 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 15,290 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/03/04 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 15, 2009 Birthday: 24/04/1965 Share Posted June 16, 2008 LOL most of those birds were mine - pics 1,2 and 4. In the 4th picture (with the 3 birds) the male is on the right - the cere color is more even with almost no noticable color change around the nostrils, the other 2 are female - with the whitish rings. Is that what you were looking at? Link to comment
nokmen 0 Posted June 16, 2008 Member ID: 4,438 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 15 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 130 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 15/06/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2012 Birthday: 18/06/1973 Author Share Posted June 16, 2008 Wow ! How come your birds are used as examples in that website : ). Surprized to know that. Actually, the third picture (from above, the single one) was the one that confused me most. Link to comment
Neat 0 Posted June 16, 2008 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Share Posted June 16, 2008 you got giped it's a girl Link to comment
Rainbow 0 Posted June 16, 2008 Member ID: 198 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 31 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,028 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 15,290 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/03/04 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 15, 2009 Birthday: 24/04/1965 Share Posted June 16, 2008 (edited) The pictures were posted with permission for examples of ceres in baby birds. The 1st picture was taken right after she fledged at about 30 days, it is actually the hen in the far right of my signature. The rest (from the website) I do not have anymore, they have new owners. Although not my bird, in the 3rd picture the cere is pretty even-toned so male. I think the reflection of the flash makes identification difficult sometimes. Edited June 16, 2008 by Rainbow Link to comment
Neat 0 Posted June 16, 2008 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Share Posted June 16, 2008 ..... The black is ment to mean it has good genes ...will fade by the age of 7 weeks .. She looks a skyblue Normal is there a little patch on the back of her head???? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted June 16, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted June 16, 2008 This topic might help you..... ALL ABOUT BUDGIES CERES http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=19173 Link to comment
nokmen 0 Posted June 16, 2008 Member ID: 4,438 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 15 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 130 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 15/06/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2012 Birthday: 18/06/1973 Author Share Posted June 16, 2008 This topic might help you.....ALL ABOUT BUDGIES CERES http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=19173 Thanks for the link, I have already seen it though. But i'm really confused about this and still not very convinced. For example in your second message in that link, the last one of 'baby to young hens' (with the beak open) and the first one of 'baby boys' (closed eyes) look pretty much the same. (Of course the ceres) Both have no white or any rings and same colour. Also, the second budgie in 'baby boys' has a white ring like mine. Am i getting too much ? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted June 16, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted June 16, 2008 This topic might help you.....ALL ABOUT BUDGIES CERES http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=19173 Thanks for the link, I have already seen it though. But i'm really confused about this and still not very convinced. For example in your second message in that link, the last one of 'baby to young hens' (with the beak open) and the first one of 'baby boys' (closed eyes) look pretty much the same. (Of course the ceres) Both have no white or any rings and same colour. Also, the second budgie in 'baby boys' has a white ring like mine. Am i getting too much ? It can be confusing as some of the cere colours differ depending on the mutation of the budgie. Can you try and post some more pictures ? No flash, natural light conditions etc. Link to comment
nokmen 0 Posted June 18, 2008 Member ID: 4,438 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 15 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 130 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 15/06/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2012 Birthday: 18/06/1973 Author Share Posted June 18, 2008 i will do it as soon as i can. Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted June 18, 2008 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2008 I am mixed on it because it does look round and bulbous like a male cere and males can have nasal rings also especially when they are going from the pink to the blue stage, more pics would be helpful in a week or so . Link to comment
nokmen 0 Posted June 18, 2008 Member ID: 4,438 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 15 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 130 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 15/06/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2012 Birthday: 18/06/1973 Author Share Posted June 18, 2008 Yes i will post a couple of more pictures taken in the day time with a natural light but the thing is i am working and it's getting dark early these days. So, please keep an eye on this topic Link to comment
*libby* 0 Posted June 18, 2008 Member ID: 3,634 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,442 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 15,475 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/08/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 9, 2011 Birthday: 10/11/1989 Share Posted June 18, 2008 My instincts are leaning towards a cock so far... But i'll wait for more pictures also Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted June 18, 2008 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted June 18, 2008 (edited) I feel it's a hen. The blueish tinge gets many people thinking its a boy, where infact it's a hen - a male's cere is pinky/purple :budgiedance: Male baby looks like this Baby hen looks like this Edited June 18, 2008 by **Liv** Link to comment
Elly 0 Posted June 19, 2008 Member ID: 1,641 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 15,350 Content Per Day: 2.22 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 99,335 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/05 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 1, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2008 but you know when they are going through that in between stage from pink to blue it looks similar to the hen picture you posted, I remember Merlin going through that....looking forward to more pics. Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted June 19, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Looks boy to me so far. But new photos will help. :budgiedance: Link to comment
Neat 0 Posted June 19, 2008 Member ID: 3,275 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 321 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,171 Content Per Day: 0.26 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 31,845 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 27/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 25, 2010 Birthday: 22/05/1980 Share Posted June 19, 2008 I feel it's a hen. The blueish tinge gets many people thinking its a boy, where infact it's a hen - a male's cere is pinky/purple :hap: Male baby looks like this Baby hen looks like this Still looks boy to me, Too purple to be a hen .... Guess at 3 - 4 months of age will be be certian Link to comment
nokmen 0 Posted June 20, 2008 Member ID: 4,438 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 15 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 130 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 15/06/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 18, 2012 Birthday: 18/06/1973 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 Thanks for your interest. I have been trying my best to get the best quality ones with my old camera. Here are some more pictures. (It looks it's turning into blue) Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted June 20, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Thanks for posting new pictures. I would say its a hen myself. Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted June 20, 2008 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I still say hen Link to comment
melbournebudgies 0 Posted June 20, 2008 Member ID: 4,233 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 329 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,498 Content Per Day: 0.78 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,540 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2010 Birthday: 17/12/1982 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I agree Link to comment
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