deb 0 Posted April 25, 2008 Member ID: 3,867 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 198 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,737 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 11,910 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 23, 2011 Birthday: 25/09/1970 Share Posted April 25, 2008 After my aviary got flooded we have decided to concrete the floor but finances are limited at the moment so what would be the best way to do drainage but is not going to cost heaps.i cannot move the aviary so would the drainage be better to be on the outside to stop any water from getting in. Should i do concrete tiles or concrete the whole base.Posted a picture so any advice would be helpful. Link to comment
melbournebudgies 0 Posted April 25, 2008 Member ID: 4,233 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 329 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,498 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 28,540 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: July 2, 2010 Birthday: 17/12/1982 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I guess the problem is if that whole corner of your yard was flooded including the aviary then drainage ain't gonna make a whole lot of difference in bigger flooding like you had th other day. If you had the concrete or tiles just marginally sloping towards the front of the aviary then excess water would simply draine out through the wire. But don't slope it too much or everything will slide towards the front! Link to comment
deb 0 Posted April 25, 2008 Member ID: 3,867 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 198 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,737 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 11,910 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 23, 2011 Birthday: 25/09/1970 Author Share Posted April 25, 2008 The aviary floor is level but the problem is our yard is on a little slope so when it rains all the water runs down to the bottom of the yard which is where the aviary is. We cannot build on the top side because it is too close to the neighbours house. Link to comment
Dave_McMinn 0 Posted April 25, 2008 Member ID: 3,092 Group: Global Moderators Followers: 0 Topic Count: 103 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,831 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 21,560 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 13/01/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 2, 2018 Birthday: 23/05/1975 Share Posted April 25, 2008 (edited) okay Deb, I gave this some thought and here are 2 options. 1) You want to build the aviary up so it sits a little higher than that rest of the lawn. That means that water will not flow into it. The best way to do this is to conrete it a little higher. To do this, you will need to temporarily move the aviary. The next thing you do is get some sleepers, nice thick ones, to set as your floor bounday. You place them around the aviary, making them at least 10cms higher than the lawn. Make sure they form up into a rectangle larger than the aviary. You conrete in the middle of these, ensuring that the floor/slab is higher than the grass. This will mean that when it rains, no water will flow into the aviary as it cannot flow up hill. 2) Another cheaper option might be to put a trench around the aviary. You dig a moat if you like around the sides of he aviary. In that trench you get some wire tubing. You can get material like a stocking to go over this tubing. The point of this material is to allow the water, but not the dirt go into the tubing. You run the tubing away from the aviary, on a slope, so the water flows away. So you don't have a big gaping trench there, you fill the trench in with pebbles. Now, if you are looking for ugly, you can cover the trench with basic blue metal (cheaper), but you can use white river stones that would look good, or maybe even some scoria. This will stop water getting in, but is still leaves you with a dirt/sand base in your aviary. personally I think that option number 1 is the way to go. It is of course possible to combine 1 and 2. After thinking about your backyard, I think that it would be best to combine 1 and 2. Stretch the trench all the way across this avairy and the new one you are constructing. Edited April 25, 2008 by Dave_McMinn Link to comment
Norm 0 Posted April 25, 2008 Member ID: 3,235 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,965 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 12,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 6, 2009 Birthday: 20/08/1940 Share Posted April 25, 2008 My suggestion would be that you would have to remove the birds & then lift the whole aviary up on some blocks, to give it clearance above the ground & then put the concrete or blocks down & lower the aviary onto it. Usually concrete would be at least 4 inches in old measurement. Also as suggested have a slight slope towards the front so that any water runs away. If you get water any deeper than the height you can make the floor you would need to do some drainage around it to direct water away. If the aviary was a bit higher like I suggest that would also help prevent rusting of the base metal of the aviary also. Link to comment
deb 0 Posted April 25, 2008 Member ID: 3,867 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 198 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,737 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 11,910 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 23, 2011 Birthday: 25/09/1970 Author Share Posted April 25, 2008 Thanks for the advice, i think the idea of lifting the aviary up and putting on blocks sounds good. We did not think it would flood like it did, we do not normally get this much rain but we have blue sky today. Yeah! Link to comment
Norm 0 Posted April 25, 2008 Member ID: 3,235 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,965 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 12,755 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/03/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: October 6, 2009 Birthday: 20/08/1940 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Looking good here also Deb, but I hope it lasts more than a couple of days this time. After the years of drought, it’s always the way, now it wont stop. Moderation isn’t how Australia works but, I guess. Link to comment
Julie 0 Posted April 25, 2008 Member ID: 3,992 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 71 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 515 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 19, 2008 Birthday: 21/08/1960 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Looking good here also Deb, but I hope it lasts more than a couple of days this time. After the years of drought, it's always the way, now it wont stop. Moderation isn't how Australia works but, I guess. Guess that's why the poem goes...."Land of drought and flooding rains" ') Back on topic ... I like option 1 as well but if that's not possible then the moat seems good too. What about making a 'barrier' around the aviary, like they do with sandbags? If you made like a wall that you could still get over but would impede the water flow getting to the aviary? Maybe with some concrete or wooden sleepers? Link to comment
*libby* 0 Posted April 26, 2008 Member ID: 3,634 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,442 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 15,475 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/08/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: February 9, 2011 Birthday: 10/11/1989 Share Posted April 26, 2008 i like norms idea, with an aviary like that it's a simple fix and low cost Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted April 26, 2008 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Thanks for the rain Deb, We are have dark skies and lovely RAIN!!!! Hope you are enjoing our blue skies hehehehe All the best with working out your aviary floor. Link to comment
deb 0 Posted April 26, 2008 Member ID: 3,867 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 198 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,737 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 11,910 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 23, 2011 Birthday: 25/09/1970 Author Share Posted April 26, 2008 Thanks for the rain Deb, We are have dark skies and lovely RAIN!!!! Hope you are enjoing our blue skies hehehehe All the best with working out your aviary floor. you are welcome to the rain, i have been enjoying the sun and got the aviary cleaned today. i have been browsing ebay for pavers, working out if it is cheaper to put down pavers or concrete the base. Link to comment
**Liv** 0 Posted April 26, 2008 Member ID: 3,771 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 147 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,621 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 39,450 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 23/10/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 8, 2014 Birthday: 09/04/1911 Share Posted April 26, 2008 (edited) I have pavers as the floor in mine. Cheaper and easier (in my opinion ) Edited April 26, 2008 by **Liv** Link to comment
Little one 0 Posted April 26, 2008 Member ID: 3,695 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 33 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 415 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 3,125 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 25/09/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: August 9, 2011 Birthday: 27/03/1994 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Yes, mine is also brick paved . Link to comment
deb 0 Posted April 26, 2008 Member ID: 3,867 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 198 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,737 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 11,910 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 23, 2011 Birthday: 25/09/1970 Author Share Posted April 26, 2008 i am going to go with pavers, it sounds like a much easier way to go Link to comment
Julie 0 Posted April 26, 2008 Member ID: 3,992 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 71 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 515 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: May 19, 2008 Birthday: 21/08/1960 Share Posted April 26, 2008 i am going to go with pavers, it sounds like a much easier way to go Sometimes you can score pavers in the local papers as give aways. That's how I got my first lot. Link to comment
deb 0 Posted April 26, 2008 Member ID: 3,867 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 198 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,737 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 11,910 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 23, 2011 Birthday: 25/09/1970 Author Share Posted April 26, 2008 Thanks Julie, i have been browsing the net last night and i am going to check out the recycle centres as well. Link to comment
Guest DrNat Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 If it is only temporary and low cost could you raise it up on wood palettes with a solid sheet of marine ply nailed to the top of each palette as the floor? Link to comment
**KAZ** 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Member ID: 1,976 Group: Site Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 521 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 25,294 Content Per Day: 1.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 152,977 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 24/01/06 Status: Offline Last Seen: January 6, 2015 Birthday: 07/01/1956 Share Posted April 28, 2008 If it is only temporary and low cost could you raise it up on wood palettes with a solid sheet of marine ply nailed to the top of each palette as the floor? Thats a very good idea Link to comment
deb 0 Posted April 28, 2008 Member ID: 3,867 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 198 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,737 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 11,910 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 23, 2011 Birthday: 25/09/1970 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 i thought about wood pallets but was worried that after a few years they would rot with moisture. What i do is going to be a permanent solution. Link to comment
CYCLEPRO101 0 Posted April 29, 2008 Member ID: 4,287 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 61 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 525 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 22/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 2, 2012 Birthday: 07/10/1970 Share Posted April 29, 2008 How do u clean the bottom of the aviary? I want to do a concrete floor in mine and have a grated drain going to the storm water when I do mine. Steve Link to comment
deb 0 Posted April 29, 2008 Member ID: 3,867 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 198 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,737 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 11,910 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 23, 2011 Birthday: 25/09/1970 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 i just use a little shovel and bucket and pick up all the poo and other mess the budgies have made. i do it every second day but still takes me a while so that is another reason why i am changing to pavers. Link to comment
CYCLEPRO101 0 Posted April 29, 2008 Member ID: 4,287 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 61 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 525 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 22/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 2, 2012 Birthday: 07/10/1970 Share Posted April 29, 2008 So what would change with pavers? Would u just hose it out onto the lawn? Steve Link to comment
deb 0 Posted April 29, 2008 Member ID: 3,867 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 198 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,737 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 11,910 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/07 Status: Offline Last Seen: March 23, 2011 Birthday: 25/09/1970 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 i will hose the pavers and with my yard being on a slope the water will run behind the aviary where i have a heap of trees so they will get watered when i clean the aviary. Link to comment
CYCLEPRO101 0 Posted April 29, 2008 Member ID: 4,287 Group: Site Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 61 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Achievement Points: 525 Solved Content: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 22/04/08 Status: Offline Last Seen: June 2, 2012 Birthday: 07/10/1970 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Sounds like a plan to me :hap: Link to comment
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